The BATSUIT Thread

[Gamma Goliath]

Your idea for the cowl is pretty much what I was imagining. A textured mask that he can pull over his face which then hardens and becomes vacuum sealed to his head so villains can't just pull it off.

I get what you're saying about the eyes but here's the thing, Bruce Wayne is a billionaire and has a plethora of technology at his disposal, Spider-Man has mechanical lenses because = Tony Stark. That's all the explanation that was needed for his so why can't we apply the same logic to Bruce Wayne? And even then, the lenses can have a function within the movie. I could see him having the white eyes whenever he's fighting/scaring criminals but retracting them anytime he talks to Gordon and his allies.

I always hear the human eyes argument against white eyes. But here's the thing - Batman is not suppose to appear "human" the illusion is that he's an otherworldly creature to criminals. The white eyes looking completely unnatural and uncanny is the entire point. It will make criminals even more afraid of the Batman.

So I'm not disputing the "in universe" reason for white eyes of course Bruce Wayne can invent white eyes on his bat suit because he's Bruce Wayne. It's the on screen execution that has to be absolutley spot on.

Of course white eyes look unnatural, what I'm saying is that cg may not be the way to go to do them for batman. Works for spiderman and dead pool. Batman is different. He can look unnatural and creepy and inhuman but he shouldn't look that way because of uncanny valley and questionable use of CGI. He should look that way because a smart well thought out design was executed on screen. Which is why I promote lenses like Black Panthers that are retractable or contact lenses that can be activated.

 

[Marvel united]

So I'm not disputing the "in universe" reason for white eyes of course Bruce Wayne can invent white eyes on his bat suit because he's Bruce Wayne. It's the on screen execution that has to be absolutley spot on.

Of course white eyes look unnatural, what I'm saying is that cg may not be the way to go to do them for batman. Works for spiderman and dead pool. Batman is different. He can look unnatural and creepy and inhuman but he shouldn't look that way because of uncanny valley and questionable use of CGI. He should look that way because a smart well thought out design was executed on screen. Which is why I promote lenses like Black Panthers that are retractable or contact lenses that can be activated.

The uncanny valley effect would work perfectly for Batman who is suppose to look uncanny. Having the eyes blinking and the cowl's brow being able to emote (all through the use of CG) would be awesome and something new for a change. All it is comic accuracy. People said the grey Batsuit could never work and that Batman would always have to be armored plates but Snyder proved them wrong. Now, it's time to take it a step further with the eyes. I particularly want an emotive cowl that allows brow and cheek movement. It's time to get away from the same stiff rubber cowls we've been getting for the past 30 years. Both lend themselves well to a more organic look for Batman, it'll sell the "Bat/Man creature" aesthetic way more to not only the criminals but the audience as well.

But I'd also be okay with going the Black Panther route having retractable lenses. I dont care for the white iris/contact lenses idea. It just feels like a watered down version of the comic look.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I would take white contacts. It achieves the look without misuse of cg or breaking reality. Also allows the actor to emote and reduces the risk of the cg being bad. I have nothing against CG, I love CG heavy movies. But DC already has a lot of poor use of CG. Batman's eyes in bvs and JL with the black paint was done well it was so dark a lot of the time you couldn't even see the flesh under the opening.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

That new sideshow premium format statue has a great batsuit design. Everything I want out of the next suit.

 

[Elayis]

That's pretty badass (though I prefer a less bulky Batman).

 

[Gamma Goliath]

The proportions could be shrunk down but the design is great

 

[Aximili86]

Leather cape, though?

That Batman's one rockin' metal dude.

 

[Jekecy]

Sideshow always got some great designs they put out once in a while. Here's another one designed by Ivan Reis which I'm partial to because of the circular bat-emblem:

 

[Gamma Goliath]

That's probably my second favorite that they've done.

 

[Aximili86]

Heh, those batarangs are almost right out of the Predator 2 pred's toybox.

 

[Boom]

Sideshow always got some great designs they put out once in a while. Here's another one designed by Ivan Reis which I'm partial to because of the circular bat-emblem:

I like this one a lot.

 

[HBarnill]

Why would he go with the yellow symbol if he has the plain symbol on his suit already?

 

[Astro13Zombie]

Why would he go with the yellow symbol if he has the plain symbol on his suit already?

Why would he not be able to change it?

 

[Astro13Zombie]

Sideshow always got some great designs they put out once in a while. Here's another one designed by Ivan Reis which I'm partial to because of the circular bat-emblem:

 

[Sawyer]

Changing Bat-insignias? In this economy???

 

[HBarnill]

It looks silly. It always has. I don’t care for any reason for it. If the entire suit is bullet proof, there’s no need for it to be a target.

 

[Boy Scout]

I don’t think it looks any sillier than most other chest symbols.

The oval/bat combo is iconic, and it’s about time it was used again.

 

[Astro13Zombie]

Yeah I really don’t get how it looks silly

 

[2kt09]

It looks silly. It always has. I don’t care for any reason for it. If the entire suit is bullet proof, there’s no need for it to be a target.

He's taunting them. How many clicks does it take to get to the gooey center of this pop?

 

[Aximili86]

It looks silly. It always has. I don’t care for any reason for it. If the entire suit is bullet proof, there’s no need for it to be a target.

It's symbolism, part of the whole iconography and theatricality. People see the symbol, associate it with the mysterious guy kicking bad guy's asses all over town. Why even bother having the symbol on his chest at all if it's gray like the suit, blends in, and most bad guys aren't even going to notice it in the dark? It's a deliberate branding thing.

Also never felt Bruce's suit should be "bulletproof" anyway. The ultra-armored stuff has to go. Just have it be able to withstand most attempted stickings with a knife, it doesn't really have to go any further than that. Dude's a flamboyant borderline-insane ninja, not an Iron Man.

 

[HBarnill]

It's symbolism, part of the whole iconography and theatricality. People see the symbol, associate it with the mysterious guy kicking bad guy's asses all over town.

Also never felt Bruce's suit should be "bulletproof" anyway. The ultra-armored stuff has to go. Just have it be able to withstand most attempted stickings with a knife, it doesn't really have to go any further than that. Dude's a flamboyant borderline-insane ninja, not an Iron Man.

Realistically, he needs to have some armor without being “Iron Man”. Besides, it’s been said that his armor is still vulnerable to bullets, like many Kevlar suits are. I just think the yellow symbol clashes wrong with the all-black suit or the grey suit. If it was the blue suit, I could understand, but he’s supposed to be stealthy. How can you be when there’s a big yellow-as-the-sun insignia on your chest? And I don’t buy for a second that criminals would go for that as target. They’d probably go for the mouth.

 

[Boy Scout]

I don’t think it clashes at all, especially because of the belt.

The oval wouldn’t make it any less difficult for him to blend it. The cape could easily be designed to conceal it if necessary.

Wouldn’t they aim for the mouth regardless?

 

[Aximili86]

Realistically, he needs to have some armor without being “Iron Man”. Besides, it’s been said that his armor is still vulnerable to bullets, like many Kevlar suits are. I just think the yellow symbol clashes wrong with the all-black suit or the grey suit. If it was the blue suit, I could understand, but he’s supposed to be stealthy. How can you be when there’s a big yellow-as-the-sun insignia on your chest? And I don’t buy for a second that criminals would go for that as target. They’d probably go for the mouth.

The yellow symbol's supposed to clash. You've got this guy who's barely even distinguishable as human coming at you in the dark, black/dark-gray outfit, cape, panther-neck cowl, all you're going to remember about the dude is the visually-striking logo, the rest is a total piss-your-pants-terrifying blur. The logo's sort of a statement, a calling card.

As for the armor, yeah, agreed that he's usually not depicted as bulletproof. So, there it is, Batman doesn't really need this heavy/bulky plate-armor look so many of the modern designs like in the Arkham games have. Just have him in a standard SWAT-team-issue type kevlar torso vest, with the costume over the top of that. You don't really need anything more.

Batman's formidable nature comes from his skill, rather than being able to take an exceptionally-heavy hit compared to a normal person. As awesome as the Netflix Daredevil is, that's one of the few annoying things about it, that heavy-duty tank costume, it's just way unnecessary.

Just a kevlar vest and maybe something on his elbows and knees should suffice, along with the gauntlets and boots. The rest can just be fabric stuff.

 

[Boom]

It's symbolism, part of the whole iconography and theatricality. People see the symbol, associate it with the mysterious guy kicking bad guy's asses all over town. Why even bother having the symbol on his chest at all if it's gray like the suit, blends in, and most bad guys aren't even going to notice it in the dark? It's a deliberate branding thing.

Also never felt Bruce's suit should be "bulletproof" anyway. The ultra-armored stuff has to go. Just have it be able to withstand most attempted stickings with a knife, it doesn't really have to go any further than that. Dude's a flamboyant borderline-insane ninja, not an Iron Man.

 

[Travesty]

“Realistic”...ugh.