The BATSUIT Thread

[BatsAndNights]

while possible, i don't think it makes sense that this suit is the second suit. they've only shot 25% of the film, and so much of what we've seen is clearly early on in the film -- for example, the first of riddler's victims (gordon's dialogue implies they haven't seen this before) and what seems like the first encounter with catwoman. unless his suit is replaced within the first 30 minutes of the film, which i find extremely unlikely within the expected pacing of the film, i don't think that this is his second suit in the film.

My thinking was that it would potentially get destroyed in an intro action sequence, maybe trying to take down Falcone or something. And he fails because of the lack of protection from his suit. This in turn makes way for the new suit once the Riddler comes into play

 

[Boom]

while i'm skeptical of the source, there are a couple things that lead me to think it could be credible. for one, we've already seen footage in the trailer that suggests an explosion could damage the suit, andwe also see a direct shotgun(?) blast into his chest. second, the bit about a new suit featuring a logo that's essentially the same as the one in the suit but with ears is a detail i don't see someone shooting in the dark would guess. that exact logo has recently been released, and that, to me, is the strongest evidence it's legit.

The symbol is no longer metal and lacking ears, it’s a more “classic” version of the symbol on the first suit in the film

Hmm. Interesting.

 

[C Prometheus]

Honestly I really hope there isn't a new Batsuit in this film. This one's pretty dang on perfect.

 

[Fincher]

One thing that doesn't particularly help that rumor is that movie scenes aren't shot in chronological order, so unless that explosion is late in the film (and it doesn't really come across as a late event) it's likely they'd have footage of both the first suit and the second suit. Which would make it that much harder to cut a trailer with only 25% of the film and show him as Batman as much as they did.

 

[StarLord]

This Batman is not going to have multiple suits lying around.

Probably just making minor alterations to what is already existing.

 

[Boom]

One thing that doesn't particularly help that rumor is that movie scenes aren't shot in chronological order, so unless that explosion is late in the film (and it doesn't really come across as a late event) it's likely they'd have footage of both the first suit and the second suit. Which would make it that much harder to cut a trailer with only 25% of the film and show him as Batman as much as they did.

Eh, the trailer was only two minutes of footage, and the suit wasn't even featured in all of it. It's possible that they've shot scenes with a second suit and only used footage of the first suit here.

The leaker's comment about the emblem matching almost exactly with the official logo is one hell of a coincidence.

 

[Fincher]

If a "leaker" is playing off of people disliking a suit, and part of what they dislike is that the emblem is metal and doesn't have ears, it isn't a leap to think they'd say that the emblem of the new suit that replaces that suit isn't metal and has ears. It might seem strange that that ended up being true of the logo, but that could just be along the lines of convergent evolution, like dolphins and sharks separately developing a similar shape.

 

[C Prometheus]

Eh, the trailer was only two minutes of footage, and the suit wasn't even featured in all of it. It's possible that they've shot scenes with a second suit and only used footage of the first suit here.

The leaker's comment about the emblem matching almost exactly with the official logo is one hell of a coincidence.

The thing is the rumored description for this second suit doesn't really... fit?

Like the leak itself makes sense, but the reported second design just feels too at odds with the visual aesthetic we're seeing in the film. If anything, you would think this rumored design would be the suit that gets blown up and the one we're seeing in all of the official material of the film acts as its replacement (with Bruce transitioning to a more armored Batsuit to better protect himself, as opposed to transitioning to a suit that offers less protection against a threat that literally just detonated a bomb at him in point blank range).

And as mentioned above, it feels like the overall description is something thought up to placate the haters of the design we've been seeing and that "we're totally getting something more comic accurate later in the movie, guys!"

 

[DCnightwing23]

Alright guys, after the 30th some odd time watching that trailer in 4K, I can confidently say... the suit works. This world Reeves is building, I'm sold. And Pattinson? He sells the suit, he sells Reeves Batman despite any shortcomings I think the suit has. Impressive to say the least, can't wait till '21.

 

[Boom]

The thing is the rumored description for this second suit doesn't really... fit?

Like the leak itself makes sense, but the reported second design just feels too at odds with the visual aesthetic we're seeing in the film. If anything, you would think this rumored design would be the suit that gets blown up and the one we're seeing in all of the official material of the film acts as its replacement (with Bruce transitioning to a more armored Batsuit to better protect himself, as opposed to transitioning to a suit that offers less protection against a threat that literally just detonated a bomb at him in point blank range).

For the sake of speculation, what if the explosion shatters the chest armor and fragments cause him serious bodily harm? Opt for a more streamlined form of armor protection.

I'm also trying to think back on Reeves' words too. I know we are all hoping that he's in this for multiple films, but he himself stressed the importance of focusing on just this one. So let's look at his words through the lens of one film. He keeps mentioning how these characters are just starting out and that they're discovering themselves as they go. Will we see this development within one film?

 

[C Prometheus]

For the sake of speculation, what if the explosion shatters the chest armor and the fragments cause him serious bodily harm? Opt for a more streamlined form of armor protection.

... I doubt it.

Another thing to consider after re-visiting that leak; the report claims that the suit gets destroyed "very early on" in the film. Which, okay, that clears up my earlier concern that the Mayor's funeral was unlikely to take place late in the film- but what about all of the scenes in the trailer with Batman fighting against and escaping the police force?

I seriously doubt that ALL of that unfolds prior to the bomb going off.

 

[Boom]

A fair point, for sure. Unless the leaker was only speculating that the funeral scene takes place early on. Or maybe it's worth considering what the leaker considers "early." Are we talking the first 15 minutes, or the first 30?

I'm leaning more towards this suit being the only one in this film (until hard evidence suggests otherwise), but I admit the logo coincidence raised my eyebrow. But yeah, could just as easily be a lucky guess.

 

[C Prometheus]

A fair point, for sure. Unless the leaker was only speculating that the funeral scene takes place early on. Or maybe it's worth considering what the leaker considers "early." Are we talking the first 15 minutes, or the first 30?

I'm leaning more towards this suit being the only one in this film (until hard evidence suggests otherwise), but I admit the logo coincidence raised my eyebrow. But yeah, could just as easily be a lucky guess.

Right, but even then, I doubt Bruce's relationship with the GCPD turns from "Being let in on a high profile crime scene" to "full room brawl" and "cops open firing at Batman while he escapes" all in the span of 30 or 45 minutes, before the funeral.

Not to mention how there's a visible Bomb Diffuser drone that's visibly next to Batman in the cathedral when the bomb goes off. That makes me think that the cops are working with Batman in some level at least during the cathedral sequence.

In fact, I've seen one or two people throw out the possibility that the reason Batman initially starts lashing out in that room full of cops and Gordon slams him to the wall is that Batman is just coming to on a gurney that might be visible on the left side of the frame and is initially disoriented when he wakes up.

 

[Boom]

In fact, I've seen one or two people throw out the possibility that the reason Batman initially starts lashing out in that room full of cops and Gordon slams him to the wall is that Batman is just coming to on a gurney that might be visible on the left side of the frame and is initially disoriented when he wakes up.

Interesting. I hadn't noticed that.

 

[C Prometheus]

Interesting. I hadn't noticed that.

Yeah, I'm not 100% sure myself. I suspect that scene is playing out in either one of two ways:

1. Batman has just found out something about a corrupt cop that's in the room with him and Gordon (likely that "Wasserman" character that kept being referenced back in December 2019) and lashes out at him, only to be held back by the other cops, including Gordon.

2. Batman was 'rescued' by the cops after the cathedral explosion and initially freaks out after waking up in a room full of cops and has to be calmed down by Gordon.

Also, I suspect the scene where Batman is grappling up a stairway chamber full of cops open firing at him is probably set either in the middle or late into the film. Reeves teased a lot about Bruce slowly realizing just how far deep the corruption in Gotham City goes as the mystery unfolds, so my guess is that Commissioner Savage or another likely corrupt high ranking police officer feels Batman is getting too close to the case and declares open season on him.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I do think batman is getting up off of a gurney in that scene. His motion indicates he's hopping off the table we see. The rescue theory is exactly what i think too.

 

[Verbal21]

There haven't been a single film batsuit that I disliked, not even the cold resistant suit from Batman & Robin.

But I'll say this about the paint around the eyes for the mask

He has to go to the batcave everytime he wants to wear the suit just to put war paint around his eyes before placing the cowl on his head. In 31 years this is the first time for us to see no cowl Batman with paint around his eyes.

I always assumed they'd come up with a reason for him to remove his cowl during this movie but to see the realism of him having on eye makeup is a welcomed surprise.

 

[Gothamsknight]

I do think batman is getting up off of a gurney in that scene. His motion indicates he's hopping off the table we see. The rescue theory is exactly what i think too.

Yeah it definitely looks like he's getting up. I guess when he wakes up or something, he sort of panics and immediately is on the defensive, which is why Gordon seems to try to restrain him.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Exactly what I'm thinking. Especially after that bomb going off.

 

[Boy Scout]

If that’s the case, there must be something stopping them from taking his cowl off then. Gordon’s orders maybe? Do we know his position within the GCPD yet?

 

[craigaat]

If that’s the case, there must be something stopping them from taking his cowl off then. Gordon’s orders maybe? Do we know his position within the GCPD yet?

You don't remove helmets etc for things like spinal injuries, so it's not that unusual that they'd leave it on.

 

[Boy Scout]

You don't remove helmets etc for things like spinal injuries, so it's not that unusual that they'd leave it on.

Fair point, but I don’t expect the GCPD to be all that competent, careful, or in any way concerned about Batman’s health.

 

[craigaat]

Fair point, but I don’t expect the GCPD to be all that competent, careful, or in any way concerned about Batman’s health.

Also a fair point haha

I do enjoy the intense speculation that you get from first trailers.

 

[BatLobster]

I'm choosing not to really pay close attention to leaks or anything, but I will just say from a 10,000 foot view...the idea of this Batman gradually adapting and evolving the suit throughout the film seems like it could fit the overall intent Reeves has stated for this movie and definitely the direction it's going with all the other rogues. I think they are "Batman Begins'ing" this a bit in the sense that, while he's already Batman at the start of the film, he's still far from the icon we know. And the journey is going to be in transitioning into that icon. Seems like evolving the suit would have to go hand in hand with that.

And I still am holding out hope that part of the transition of Batman from vigilante to symbol of hope for Gotham could involve the yellow oval. Maybe not necessarily in this movie. But I haven't given up on that idea yet. It's been so long.

I'm starting to feel the new suit after seeing it in action, but I'm definitely not getting too attached to it either because this Batman is clearly being given a lot of runway to become "the" Batman.

 

[hafizbat]

Along with the suit evolving and this Batman growing into the role, I'd like to see him progress from an angry, scrappy young Bats to a calm, detached, zen Batman.

We've seen angry Batman quite a bit. In fact most of these street heroes are portrayed that way (Daredevil, Arrow, etc).

I think it would be cool and refreshing to have a Batman who is more of a detached zen monk-warrior. Its more unique and would suit his (source material) training in the older, Eastern side of the world.