The BATSUIT Thread

It's a great suit in its own right, but it also leaves me dying to know how it will evolve over time. Based on the Catwoman action figure she gets a pretty faithful looking costume at some point in the movie. Will Bats follow suit?
 
I wouldn't even bother at this point, though sure they probably will. Tinker with the nose on he cowl marginally maybe, perhaps throw a bigger brighter batsymbol on the chest as he becomes more "Batman the icon".

Can't see them ditching the plate-armor for this take on him, though. On paper I hate that approach, but it's really growing on me. Way better and less janky in motion than with stills and stunt suits, it blends better. The silhouette of this thing is rad, too, love it.
 
It's a great suit in its own right, but it also leaves me dying to know how it will evolve over time. Based on the Catwoman action figure she gets a pretty faithful looking costume at some point in the movie. Will Bats follow suit?
It is the same leather motorcycle suit and ski mask combo that we saw in the last trailer and promo art as far as I can tell. (Which frankly I love). Did I miss something?
 
It is the same leather motorcycle suit and ski mask combo that we saw in the last trailer and promo art as far as I can tell. (Which frankly I love). Did I miss something?
The toy has a full ski mask and she seems to have a one-piece catsuit as opposed to the leather suit. And the whip.
 
Something about this suit just screams "young Batman" to me. That's why I think it works.

How much it changes over the course of subsequent films I think may be a matter of whether they decide to age the character up or keep these films focused on the early part of his career. I'm not that attached to it that I'd be opposed to an entirely new suit, if it works with the story.

Part of the whole thing with Batman is he has the resources that he does. I don't need it to always look like something scrapped together. The suit itself is probably the most important "gadget" he has.
 
The toy has a full ski mask and she seems to have a one-piece catsuit as opposed to the leather suit. And the whip.
I dunno, this:
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Looks the same as this:
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I assume she just has the ski mask pulled up a little in the footage and can pull it down further when she wants more anonymity.
 
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The suit looks to have different (ripped) stitching, and her gloves now have slots to fit her nails through as makeshift claws.
Nice catches! I had assumed that the new details were just the product of getting a closer look at the hero Catwoman suit in the new trailer (most of the previous shots were of the stunt suit with the exception of the couple quick dark shots in Trailer 1). But yeah, it is looking like there are possibly too distinct outfits.

Which means the rumours of a second Batsuit are dead and buried as Rob is very clearly wearing the same Batsuit in numerous scenes and shots where Selina has already upgraded.
 
Nice catches! I had assumed that the new details were just the product of getting a closer look at the hero Catwoman suit in the new trailer (most of the previous shots were of the stunt suit with the exception of the couple quick dark shots in Trailer 1). But yeah, it is looking like there are possibly too distinct outfits.

Which means the rumours of a second Batsuit are dead and buried as Rob is very clearly wearing the same Batsuit in numerous scenes and shots where Selina has already upgraded.
Yeah. A second batsuit does not appear to be happening.

Which is fine. Give us something to anticipate for the sequel.
 
Part of the whole thing with Batman is he has the resources that he does. I don't need it to always look like something scrapped together. The suit itself is probably the most important "gadget" he has.


Sort of the opposite for me. After Bale's "one-off prototype coming from Lucius' cutting-edge warehouse in the heart of the Wayne building", this is refreshing to me.

Going by the taking-gunfire thing it's still clearly not something someone could just buy, but it does have that "Bruce has taken the time to cobble this all together himself" vibe to it, rather than something it took a giant corporation a hundred million bucks in R&D and he's just thrown a cowl and chest-symbol over.

Makes Bruce seem both more obsessively-committed to figuring this out, and shows his own smarts. Freeman-Lucius is cool and all, but I hope they don't introduce that character for this go-around. Same concept as MCU Spidey coming off as hand-me-down Stark.
 
Sort of the opposite for me. After Bale's "one-off prototype coming from Lucius' cutting-edge warehouse in the heart of the Wayne building", this is refreshing to me.

Going by the taking-gunfire thing it's still clearly not something someone could just buy, but it does have that "Bruce has taken the time to cobble this all together himself" vibe to it, rather than something it took a giant corporation a hundred million bucks in R&D and he's just thrown a cowl and chest-symbol over.

Makes Bruce seem both more obsessively-committed to figuring this out, and shows his own smarts. Freeman-Lucius is cool and all, but I hope they don't introduce that character for this go-around. Same concept as MCU Spidey coming off as hand-me-down Stark.

I personally do really dislike the Tony Stark Jr. approach in the MCU, but mainly because I think making Spidey's suit a state of the art piece of AI really waters down the idea of him being the working class superhero.

I'm cool with with the approach they're taking, it's something fresh for sure and a good way to differentiate it.
 
All the same though, no body armor in existence is stopping an automatic weapon like that point-blank. Head, chest, doesn't matter - he's toast.

I don't care though, I can suspend disbelief for something like that. It's half the fun. Every action movie ever's full of ridiculous stuff, and given how stylized this seems to be it's a little easier to accept than if you were playing it entirely real-world straight.

Like, god, in a real situation with a guy doing what Batman does, any random mobster who's strapped is killing him like the third day on the beat. *Shrugs*
I can suspend my disbelief a little, like with random handgun shots sure, but effortlessly walking through 2 machineguns showering him with bullets is too ridiculous. Even in a fairly fantastical approach like the Arkham games, that kind of punishment would kill you in about two seconds.

The most disappointing part is, it would be actually much cooler if Batman took a tactical approach to these kind of encounters. It's not fun for me to watch Batman repel a stream of bullets like Superman, quite the opposite. At that point, what's the point of using this character?

You can and should have a slightly over-powered Batman. But that power should be his intellect, his fighting technique and peak fitness.
 
I can suspend my disbelief a little, like with random handgun shots sure, but effortlessly walking through 2 machineguns showering him with bullets is too ridiculous. Even in a fairly fantastical approach like the Arkham games, that kind of punishment would kill you in about two seconds.

The most disappointing part is, it would be actually much cooler if Batman took a tactical approach to these kind of encounters. It's not fun for me to watch Batman repel a stream of bullets like Superman, quite the opposite. At that point, what's the point of using this character?

You can and should have a slightly over-powered Batman. But that power should be his intellect, his fighting technique and peak fitness.

Taking shots in body armour - even fictional body armour, should be like taking baseball bat hits without armour. Yeah, it won't kill him, but it shouldn't be nothing. It's just physics. And the more realistic way is also the more interesting and cinematic way.

At least when Keaton took a shot he was knocked over.
 
Yeah. It's early days though, I'm not gonna get my panties in a bunch over it.

Like someone else said, who the hell knows - he may have anticipated the encounter and we're getting some sneaky-ass prior recon where he's ninja'd in and replaced their mags with blanks, knowing he'll have to fight them on the way out later on.

Don't necessarily think that's how it'll go down, but it's a possibility.

You can take this stuff to an extreme, getting up-in-arms about realism. Hell, those two rottweilers of Jokers' in TDK would **** up a guy, even a guy in a batsuit.
 
Just reposting what I posted earlier in the General thread on this subject :

We didn’t saw that scene of Batman walking through the machine gun in a vacuum.
We’re in the context of a movie depicting a Batman who, like he said, doesn't care what might happen to him. I find it more than obvious that the function of that sequence is not to show us some magical protection against bullets, but a character who's willing to ignore the pain of those multiple impacts against his armor to accomplish his vengeance.
As for the fact that he was lucky enough not to have been shot in the face, well, that luck is actually the point. This not a sustainable method to act for Batman and he must change so that his suicidal mission becomes a more cautious crusade.
 
Pain's one thing, haha. Ignoring pain isn't going to do you much good in a situation like that though, your insides'd be hamburger patty.

But hey, again, comic book movie. I don't give a ****, plenty of equally-ridiculous stuff in the Nolan movies.
 
Pain's one thing, haha. Ignoring pain isn't going to do you much good in a situation like that though, your insides'd be hamburger patty.

But hey, again, comic book movie. I don't give a ****, plenty of equally-ridiculous stuff in the Nolan movies.


Oh yeah for sure, but you understand what I was saying. That scene means something for the character in the context of the story, and that's what matter the most.

Otherwise, I agree that playing this little game of wanting everything to be "realistic" in those movies is incredibly silly. I think it never was the appropriate term anyway. What is aimed in most of these modern takes is consistency and plausibility. And on those, there are much crazier things in movies with seemingly much more grounded context and visuals, like the James Bond films or even, you're right, the sacrosanct TDK where Batman and Rachel fall from an entire building without cracking a single bone ... (again I didn't had a problem with it but it's to illustrate the idea)

Personally, I can suspend my disbelief on the functionality of a featured universe as long as the film doesn't have plot holes or contradict its internal logic. To me, everything is more than fine in what we saw from The Batman.
 
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I think my main "criticism" with that is it does feel more like a Superman kind of thing than a Batman thing. Like, can we just let Superman have his cool thing? It's bad enough that Batman hogs all the movie glory. :funny:

It's still pretty badass though.
 
Pain's one thing, haha. Ignoring pain isn't going to do you much good in a situation like that though, your insides'd be hamburger patty.

But hey, again, comic book movie. I don't give a ****, plenty of equally-ridiculous stuff in the Nolan movies.

Oh yeah for sure, but you understand what I was saying. That scene means something for the character in the context of the story, and that's what matter the most.

Otherwise, I agree that playing this little game of wanting everything to be "realistic" in those movies is incredibly silly. I think it never was the appropriate term anyway. What is aimed in most of these modern takes is consistency and plausibility. And on those, there are much crazier things in movies with seemingly much more grounded context and visuals, like the James Bond films or even, you're right, the sacrosanct TDK where Batman and Rachel fall from an entire building without cracking a single bone ... (again I didn't had a problem with it but it's to illustrate the idea)

Personally, I can suspend my disbelief on the functionality of a featured universe as long as the film doesn't have plot holes or contradict its internal logic. To me, everything is more than fine on everything we saw from The Batman.
Yeah, I totally get the criticism of the scene and it is perfectly legitimate. When filmmakers lean into a veneer of realism and set limitations or rules for their world, more fantastical moments that seem to break the rules established by the filmmakers will seem dissonant and take people out of the illusion. I mean I cannot watch the big truck chase scene in TDK without cringing when the blatantly CGI Bat-Pod drives up the wall and flips around at the end seemingly against all rules of physics. It bugs me in particular because it is a cheap thrill and looks really bad and fake.

Now this hallway scene of Batman doesn't bug me in the same way... At least not yet. First, despite JubJub being totally right about kinetic trauma of those shots when wearing conventional bodyarmour, we don't know everything about Bruce's armour in this movie. There is real advanced fabric bodyarmour in development that uses nanofibers to dissipate the kinetic impact of a shot. Bruce could have an undersuit of that on this movie.

Second, that can be combined with the idea that this Bruce is unhinged and hyped up on adrenaline, etc. It reminds me of the line in The Terminator when the cops explain away Arnie's imperviousness to gunfire as the combo of body armour and being hopped up on PCP.

Third, the fantasy of it will seem less objectionable if the movie shows the consequences of it, which I have every expectation it will. We have shots of Bats in the trailer where his chest armour is shot and dented to hell. We also have Alfred expressing to Bruce that if he keeps going like this, he will die, to which Bruce basically makes it sound like he has a death wish and doesn't care.

If the movie shows this as a moment of extreme recklessness and that Bruce takes serious damage from it (ie. Basically bruised all over, possible broken bones, internal bleeding, etc.), I can accept the fantasy of it for storytelling purposes.

Also, Reeves has been hanging out with JJ Abrams for the last 20 years, although he is a much smarter and detail oriented filmmaker, JJ's devil may care attitude when it comes to physics and science has probably rubbed off on the guy through no fault of his own. :hehe:
 
I want Harley to beat him over the head with a 10-foot sledgehammer in a sequel, with a big cartoony "boink" sound. Take that.
 
I mean I cannot watch the big truck chase scene in TDK without cringing when the blatantly CGI Bat-Pod drives up the wall and flips around at the end seemingly against all rules of physics. It bugs me in particular because it is a cheap thrill and looks really bad and fake.

Oh man...I love that moment. I've never thought it looked like obvious CG tbh. It's such a quick shot, but I thought it a nice little extra bit of punctuation after the truck flip to set up the final phase of the sequence. I'll never forget the applause it got in theaters and the sheer adrenaline of that entire sequence. I figure if I can believe the Tumbler can jump across rooftops, I can believe in some of the Bat-pod's liberties with the laws of physics.

Just goes to show how mileage can vary with these things. :yay:
 
Oh man...I love that moment. I've never thought it looked like obvious CG tbh. It's such a quick shot, but I thought it a nice little extra bit of punctuation after the truck flip to set up the final phase of the sequence. I'll never forget the applause it got in theaters and the sheer adrenaline of that entire sequence. I figure if I can believe the Tumbler can jump across rooftops, I can believe in some of the Bat-pod's liberties with the laws of physics.

Just goes to show how mileage can vary with these things. :yay:
Same. The theater I was in erupted with applause. That scene still has me on the edge of my seat, and the only one in TDK I'd rank higher is the interrogation scene.
 
Oh man...I love that moment. I've never thought it looked like obvious CG tbh. It's such a quick shot, but I thought it a nice little extra bit of punctuation after the truck flip to set up the final phase of the sequence. I'll never forget the applause it got in theaters and the sheer adrenaline of that entire sequence. I figure if I can believe the Tumbler can jump across rooftops, I can believe in some of the Bat-pod's liberties with the laws of physics.

Just goes to show how mileage can vary with these things. :yay:
For me, the issue is the rest of the set piece is shot for real and has such weight and palpable reality to its physics to it, that I find that moment very jarring.

But yeah, a lot of these things are to each their own.
 
Yeah, always hated the TDK bat-bike thingamajig.

The tumbler's exaggerated with all the jumping crap, and just how durable/invincible it seems, but at least it makes some basic "movie" sense. That wheel-rolling stuff with the bike though is pretty lame.
 

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