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The Bionic Man

What if Doctor Franklin does rebuild her body from scratch, but there's so little left of her to use her entire body is essentially bionic? Because there's so little left, she's essentially a fembot. In other words, she's kinda like Robocop. Her brain, digestive system, lungs, and that's about all, were actually salvageable from her original body. Everything else was replaced by bionics. This gives the whole concept a grounding in "realism", as transferring someone's mind into a computer requires a much greater "Suspension Of Disbelief" than transferring a person's brain into a robotic body, or replacing damaged bodyparts with bionics for example.


As for why he primarily uses female robots? Maybe he's a sexist pig who saw The Stepford Wives when he was younger and thought to himself, "That's actually a pretty good idea!" Maybe that was his inspiration for getting into robotics in the first place.


That's not bad either. Probably more realistic than my suggestion. I suppose on a technical level she could be essentially a Fembot, even though the way she became one isn't the same as the other Fembots.

BTW, if they do use that word "Fembot", they should pre-empt the audience's response by having Jaime Sommers making a reference to Austin Powers, saying something like "Fembot? How ridiculous! It sounds like something from Austin Powers." Then Oscar or Rudy could reply that the term and concept was invented by Franklin long before Mike Myers ever ripped off that word (since that is in fact the case in real life).

You know, between the two of us, I think we have some pretty good movie ideas for The 6MDM and TBW. Maybe we should team up. You write the first draft of the script, and email it to me. I'll read it over and make some notes, send it back with suggested changes to improve the script. Some things may have to be cut entirely, others just slightly altered, to make the movie accessible to the GA as well as enjoyable to those of us long time 6MDM fans. Once we have a finished script we can start shopping it around Hollywood. Odds are no one will take an unsolicited script from a couple of unknowns, but stranger things have happened in the business they call show.

Hmm... that's an interesting idea. However, before doing any of that, you should listen to this podcast:

http://chronicrift.com/node/1149

It's in two parts. Those guys there who discuss 6MDM and Bionic Woman all have their own individual related websites, and they've been instrumental in much of the content and input that has gone into the 6MDM DVD box set. They're just fans but they seem to be known to Richard Anderson (Oscar Goldman) and also some of the people at Universal and Time Life.

I know Richard Anderson was keen to get a project off the ground. Rather than just shopping anything around, it's better to actually have a concrete contact first so that it's not all in vain, otherwise you're just writing in the dark. I have to listen to those podcasts again to find out the names of their websites as it's worth being in contact with them.
 
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Hmm... that's an interesting idea. However, before doing any of that, you should listen to this podcast:

http://chronicrift.com/node/1149

It's in two parts. Those guys there who discuss 6MDM and Bionic Woman all have their own individual related websites, and they've been instrumental in much of the content and input that has gone into the 6MDM DVD box set. They're just fans but they seem to be known to Richard Anderson (Oscar Goldman) and also some of the people at Universal and Time Life.

I know Richard Anderson was keen to get a project off the ground. Rather than just shopping anything around, it's better to actually have a concrete contact first so that it's not all in vain, otherwise you're just writing in the dark. I have to listen to those podcasts again to find out the names of their websites as it's worth being in contact with them.

Well if you have actual contacts that can help, so much the better.

I have plans for a live action Thundarr The Barbarian movie as well. Once I finish the script (I'm only about half done Act 1 right now), I plan on asking Warner Brothers (who own the rights to the show) for permission to try and get it made. If they say "yes" (which they likely will since they'll figure I'd never get anyone to agree to make the damn thing anyway), I'll go straight to Ruby-Spears Productions (who produced the show) and ask them if they'd be willing to produce the live action movie. They've actually said in an interview that they've wanted a Thundarr The Barbarian movie to be made for a long time. Once they're on board, other producers, directors, actors, etc, will be more likely to say "yes". Then I'll be able to go back to WB and say, "Okay. I've got a couple of producers, a director, and a cast. All I need is your 'Okay' and we can get started making this thing."

It's no guarantee that it'll work, but it has a better chance of working than just asking WB to buy my script.
 
That's cool. I hope you can get something done with your Thundarr script. These things take a long time to write.

I'd have to effectively work on two scripts, a) because if I did one at a time, I won't be able to set things up for the sequel properly and b) because my real love is the Bionic Woman more so than the 6MDM.

BTW, what do you think of Jaime Sommers' tennis pro background? I think that would either need to be ditched, or make it that she was never a very prominent player. There's no way she would be able to go undercover as in all those episodes if she's a tennis celebrity (and with her looks she would probably be). Maybe if she didn't go undercover but used her celebrity status in the same way that Kate Cameron (Kelli Garner) uses her stewardess status in the TV series Pan Am, then it might work, but that was never the nature of the series. They were more like these Alias missions. Her Ojai school teacher background can stay though. Her tennis pro background was always the most implausible part of the show, but I think they never intended for her to be an agent in the first place when she was originally created, so that little fact put them in a corner. I'm glad they didn't retcon it away though, hoping people would forget about that.
 
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That's not bad either. Probably more realistic than my suggestion. I suppose on a technical level she could be essentially a Fembot, even though the way she became one isn't the same as the other Fembots.
That's exactly what I was thinking. Technically, she's a cyborg. But she has so much bionics that, at least on a physical level, she's essentially a Fembot.

BTW, if they do use that word "Fembot", they should pre-empt the audience's response by having Jaime Sommers making a reference to Austin Powers, saying something like "Fembot? How ridiculous! It sounds like something from Austin Powers." Then Oscar or Rudy could reply that the term and concept was invented by Franklin long before Mike Myers ever ripped off that word (since that is in fact the case in real life).
Actually, since Franklin's and Rudy's work in bionics and robotics is supposed to be top secret, it might be a better idea for Rudy or Oscar to say something like, "Actually, that's where he got the idea from."

(See? We do make a really good team)
 
Sure do.

BTW, I wouldn't want any kind of dark and angry tone for this like that horrible 2007 Bionic Woman remake. The old 70s series for both 6MDM and Bionic Woman brought a sense of wonder and stirred people to want to be like their heroes. It should be uplifting and rousing with a real sense of adventure, not dark and angsty where you come away feeling depressed.

Also, I wonder how serious that rumour is about Bryan Singer and Leonardo Di Caprio? If it is already far along, I'm not sure I would want to work on any kind of speculative script if it's going to be a waste of time. Personally though, I think Singer isn't really the right person to direct 6MDM, and certainly DiCaprio is not really suited to Steve Austin. I would prefer someone like Chris Evans or that type. Him in the test pilot outfit and then the red tracksuit would be pretty cool.
 
That's cool. I hope you can get something done with your Thundarr script. These things take a long time to write.

I'd have to effectively work on two scripts, a) because if I did one at a time, I won't be able to set things up for the sequel properly and b) because my real love is the Bionic Woman more so than the 6MDM.

BTW, what do you think of Jaime Sommers' tennis pro background? I think that would either need to be ditched, or make it that she was never a very prominent player. There's no way she would be able to go undercover as in all those episodes if she's a tennis celebrity (and with her looks she would probably be). Maybe if she didn't go undercover but used her celebrity status in the same way that Kate Cameron (Kelli Garner) uses her stewardess status in the TV series Pan Am, then it might work, but that was never the nature of the series. They were more like these Alias missions. Her Ojai school teacher background can stay though. Her tennis pro background was always the most implausible part of the show, but I think they never intended for her to be an agent in the first place when she was originally created, so that little fact put them in a corner. I'm glad they didn't retcon it away though, hoping people would forget about that.

Yeah, I'd ditch the "tennis pro" thing completely. Maybe give her a profession that would give her the psychological make up to be able to handle the strain of the bionic implants without going mad. Not sure what exactly, but give her a profession where she'll choose to use her bionics to help others rather than hurt them.

I believe you wrote that in the original series, Barney Hiller was a race car driver critically injured in an accident at the track. Then he was chosen to receive bionics and become The 7MDM. He likely became a race car driver because of the adrenaline rush he gets from driving fast (why many drivers elect that particular vocation). So when he discovered just how powerful he was, he became mad with power. Using his bionics to hurt others was an even greater rush to him than racing cars.

It's my theory, as I stated before, that Colonel Austin was able to handle his bionic implants because he was a test pilot. He knew from day one that any time he got into the cockpit of an experimental air/space craft, there was a chance he might not live to see another day. It takes a certain special kind of person to do that without losing their nerve. And it requires the same special sort of someone to receive powerful bionic replacements without going mad. Jaime should have a profession that requires that same sort of nerve. Perhaps her going skydiving wasn't recreational. Maybe it was professional. Maybe she teaches skydiving for a living. Or maybe she's in the military, 51st Airborne Division or something, and was on a training mission, teaching new recruits to be paratroopers. Something like that.
 
Yeah, I'd ditch the "tennis pro" thing completely. Maybe give her a profession that would give her the psychological make up to be able to handle the strain of the bionic implants without going mad. Not sure what exactly, but give her a profession where she'll choose to use her bionics to help others rather than hurt them.

I believe you wrote that in the original series, Barney Hiller was a race car driver critically injured in an accident at the track. Then he was chosen to receive bionics and become The 7MDM. He likely became a race car driver because of the adrenaline rush he gets from driving fast (why many drivers elect that particular vocation). So when he discovered just how powerful he was, he became mad with power. Using his bionics to hurt others was an even greater rush to him than racing cars.

It's my theory, as I stated before, that Colonel Austin was able to handle his bionic implants because he was a test pilot. He knew from day one that any time he got into the cockpit of an experimental air/space craft, there was a chance he might not live to see another day. It takes a certain special kind of person to do that without losing their nerve. And it requires the same special sort of someone to receive powerful bionic replacements without going mad. Jaime should have a profession that requires that same sort of nerve. Perhaps her going skydiving wasn't recreational. Maybe it was professional. Maybe she teaches skydiving for a living. Or maybe she's in the military, 51st Airborne Division or something, and was on a training mission, teaching new recruits to be paratroopers. Something like that.

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Yeah, I'd ditch the "tennis pro" thing completely. Maybe give her a profession that would give her the psychological make up to be able to handle the strain of the bionic implants without going mad. Not sure what exactly, but give her a profession where she'll choose to use her bionics to help others rather than hurt them.

I believe you wrote that in the original series, Barney Hiller was a race car driver critically injured in an accident at the track. Then he was chosen to receive bionics and become The 7MDM. He likely became a race car driver because of the adrenaline rush he gets from driving fast (why many drivers elect that particular vocation). So when he discovered just how powerful he was, he became mad with power. Using his bionics to hurt others was an even greater rush to him than racing cars.

It's my theory, as I stated before, that Colonel Austin was able to handle his bionic implants because he was a test pilot. He knew from day one that any time he got into the cockpit of an experimental air/space craft, there was a chance he might not live to see another day. It takes a certain special kind of person to do that without losing their nerve. And it requires the same special sort of someone to receive powerful bionic replacements without going mad. Jaime should have a profession that requires that same sort of nerve. Perhaps her going skydiving wasn't recreational. Maybe it was professional. Maybe she teaches skydiving for a living. Or maybe she's in the military, 51st Airborne Division or something, and was on a training mission, teaching new recruits to be paratroopers. Something like that.

Well in the reunion movie Return of the 6MDM and Bionic Woman, Jaime was now a fully qualified doctor/ psychologist who helps others adjust to their bionics. Also, in real life, Lindsay Wagner seems to be into this sort of area (minus the bionics). I suppose that could work, but that's really more mature Jaime, not young Jaime.

Skydiving teacher could work as you say. In the series, she was understandably scared of ever going skydiving again after her accident (she once took a helicopter to go to a mission destination instead of parachuting out), so making it that it was once her profession and now she's deathly afraid of it would make it all the more poignant. I do like that she has fears (she was also scared of snakes) as it makes her more vulnerable and accessible, and that was part of her charm.

And of course, being a skydiving teacher, she would have transferable skills - ie TEACHING skills, which would lead her to being able to work with the children in the classroom at the Ojai military base, as in the series. Actually, Jaime did say in the first actual Bionic Woman episode "Welcome Home Jaime" that she had a teaching degree before turning tennis pro (if she did, that's a little late to turn tennis pro as most players these days are already in there by age 16 if not younger).

I would say to not actually make her a ranked officer in the military, but just that she worked with the military as a civilian instructor (hence her later connection to the Ojai military base). Part of the charm of the original character was that she wasn't this specially trained operative who was so sure and confident of herself. She had to learn it along the way and still made mistakes. She wasn't this tough military brat who needed to prove herself. She was just "tough" because of her bionics and psychological make up. Having her a fallible and rookie agent makes her more human and would be a breath of fresh air (especially if she has the same personality as the original) in this day and age of tough broads who want to show they're the man's equal.

I suppose if you wanted a slight nod to her tennis background, we could say that she originally wanted to be a pro tennis player but never got very far because she had a career-ending injury early on as a teenager before she ever turned professional and competed (hence why she would be unknown). It wouldn't have been something that incapacitated her, but would just have made it difficult to continue at the top of her game on the tennis circuit, so if she couldn't be at the top she would rather not play at all. Hence she decided to concentrate on something else which gave her a thrill - eg skydiving. Or maybe she initially took it up purely to live on the edge to try to dull the pain of not being able to be a tennis player, but eventually came to love it and then made a (temporary) career out of it.

Maybe if she works at the air force base as a civilian instructor, that's how Steve comes into contact with his childhood sweetheart again. He could ask her what she's doing here and say that he thought she was going to be a tennis player. Then she could tell him what led to her career change. Maybe she'll have to then work with him on a mission leading to her parachuting accident. It could even be, depending on the plot and how everything is written, that maybe Lisa Galloway (who is an agent) was meant to go on that mission with Steve Austin, but was tossed out of it. Then somehow Jaime took her place (not sure how if she's not actually trained but we can figure something out) and Galloway got wind of this and sabotaged her parachute.

You do know though that in the 6MDM episode "The Bionic Woman" in which Jaime debuted, that she wasn't able to handle her bionics and did almost go mad under the strain of those excruciating headaches from her bionic rejection? Then she seemingly died on the operating table but her heart was restarted by Dr Michael Marcetti who then cryogenically froze her so that they could operate on her, but didn't tell Steve. So even if there is some initial rejection, it wouldn't be a bad thing. She would be more able to try to reach out and appeal to someone like Barney Hiller and tell him she knows what he is going through so he doesn't have to be like this. Of course, he would not hear her, but it would give her that sense of trying to restore him even if it is ultimately futile.
 
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BTW, if you go to http://www.thesixmilliondollarman.tv and click on the episode player, you can watch the episodes online for free in high quality. It's only starting from Season 4 at the moment but they'll go back later (after Season 5) and add the earlier seasons. Apparently the earlier seasons (1-3) used to be there, but not in high quality, which is why they're just continuing from Season 4 so that people can watch it from where they left off.

Season 4 and 5 aren't as good (and Steve has his porn stache in Season 4) but once those are done we should be getting Seasons 1-3 if we're patient.
Awesome link. I'm totally bookmarking that one. Just watched Return Of Bigfoot. Loved it. Even with Lee Majors' porn 'stache.
 

How's this for a movie cast?








Nathan Fillion as Col. Steve Austin
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John Saxon as Oscar Goldman

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Christy Clark as Jaime Sommers

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You know that John Saxon played the villain in 6MDM a few times right?

Nathan Fillion might be a little too old for Austin now. Even on Castle he looks like he's put on some weight and isn't as trim as in Firefly.

I've never seen Christy Clark in anything before (never even heard of her), so it's hard to say about her. When I try to look her up on youtube, all I get are videos of some politician.

EDIT: when I look her up on wikipedia, it says she's 37. That's a bit old for Jaime. If you're going to go that old, you might as well think of the likes of Tricia Helfer. I would prefer someone in her mid to late 20s. She was always 27 or 28 in the series as shown by the title credits (don't know why it only ever had 2 ages but the series was 3 seasons - I'm guessing they're saying that season 3 took place in the same year as season 2?).
 
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You know that John Saxon played the villain in 6MDM a few times right?
That's part of the reason I chose him. Aside from his incredible acting talent, it's a bit of a "wink & a nod" to the fans of the show.
Nathan Fillion might be a little too old for Austin now. Even on Castle he looks like he's put on some weight and isn't as trim as in Firefly.
That can be fixed by a few months on the treadmill.
I've never seen Christy Clark in anything before (never even heard of her), so it's hard to say about her. When I try to look her up on youtube, all I get are videos of some politician.

EDIT: when I look her up on wikipedia, it says she's 37. That's a bit old for Jaime. If you're going to go that old, you might as well think of the likes of Tricia Helfer. I would prefer someone in her mid to late 20s. She was always 27 or 28 in the series as shown by the title credits (don't know why it only ever had 2 ages but the series was 3 seasons - I'm guessing they're saying that season 3 took place in the same year as season 2?).

She has played Carrie Brady on Days Of Our Lives fairly consistently since she was 11 years old. She also played the little sister of Jesse in A Nightmare On Elm Street 2: Freddy's Revenge, and later starred in Children Of The Corn 4. And while she is in her thirties, she still looks incredibly hot. She's also a very, very talented actress (she just can't seem to escape the "daytime soap trap").
 
Here are a bunch of You Tube clips of The Return Of The Six Million Dollar Man & The Bionic Woman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNcTdSlJ1xc&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLF31405433E1C90D1

I shall refrain from watching those, as I have that TV movie but haven't gotten round to watching it yet. But thanks anyway.


Sir Anthony Hopkins as Dr Rudy Wells



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I suppose it depends which interpretation of Rudy you're going for. The most well known one is Martin E Brooks, who originally had an Alan Oppenheimer hairstyle, but then later didn't (he had a full head of hair).
 
I like your treatment. I was only really thinking of having Bigfoot and the Fembots in the sequel anyway, but just having the Fembots in the background (eg in a lab) in the first movie, showing that Frankin is actually working on them, so that it doesn't look like they were just pulled out of a hat for the 2nd movie. At least if they're there, it looks like they were planned all along.

The only thing I might change is have Galloway "Bionic" in the sequel so that it could be the 6MDM vs the 7MDM in the first movie. You could still have Galloway there, but not yet augmented. Or perhaps Galloway shouldn't be another "bionic woman" as such, but either to make it that she derives her super strength from the Adrenalizine drug (as in the series), which is what makes her mentally unstable. However, she could potentially start out that way in the first movie and then later receive a technological upgrade in the sequel.

The other thing I was thinking is that rather than make her bionic, have her consciousness transplanted into a Fembot (similar to how Dr Franklin's "son" was actually part of Franklin's soul/ memories put into a robot body to commemorate his dead son who died as a baby). Maybe she was too badly damaged/ virtually dead in the first movie (eg there's nothing much left of her body except her mind), so that is the only way to save her, since it's easier (so Franklin reasons) to just put her mind in a new body than having to rebuild an entire one around the bare remains of her original body from scratch. That way Galloway would have this ability to switch faces and change her voice. That would be an actual nod to her character in the series (substituting a switchable face plate for the plastic surgery idea), otherwise if you just have her as another bionic woman, it loses one of the most essential traits of her character (the idea of impersonating someone else and then thinking they are the actual person) and makes her Lisa Galloway in name only.

BTW, there needs to be a reason to justify why Franklin primarily uses female robots instead of male ones (although he did have the Franklin Jr bot and the Oscar bot in the series). What should we say? That he's some kind of pervert who keeps trying to build the perfect woman (maybe he sees them as advanced sex dolls)? Or maybe he's traumatized by the death of his wife (perhaps he tried to save her with bionics but couldn't) and that's why, in his mind, he keeps trying to rebuild her again and again (perhaps some of the Fembots are made in her image?). I think the second idea sounds more acceptable than the pervert idea. :hehe:

I've just watched the Kill Oscar Trilogy on the 6MDM website linked to on this thread (well, the first two thirds anyway, haven't gotten to Part 3 yet). They make it quite clear that Dr. Franklin is a male chauvanist pig.

Employer: You should have had them take the girl too. A bionic woman would be quite valuable.

Franklin: Why bother? My fembots can do anything she can do.

Employer: Not quite everything. She can think for herself.

Franklin: And since when is thinking for herself an admirable trait for a woman?
 
You know that John Houseman (Dr Franklin) played Lindsay Wagner's father in The Paper Chase movie, just a few years earlier? She didn't reprise her role in the series but Houseman's character, Kingsfield, still acted in much the same way as he does as Dr Franklin.

BTW, I remember that John Saxon played a male robot created by Dr Dolenz, who took on Steve Austin in one of the earlier seasons. He was pretty similar to the Fembots, but his face didn't come off. However, the 6MDM toy "Maskatron" (who was the toy villain) was based on John Saxon's likeness but he had a removable face like the Fembots.

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I think Dolenz and Franklin could be colleagues in a future movie and they could work on these robots together. Dolenz might concentrate on the men while Franklin focuses on the ladies.
 
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HUGH JACKMAN as BARNEY HILLER
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Instead of a pro race car driver, I would make Hiller a soldier injured while on a black ops mission. When his buddies bring him back, he's pretty much like the soldier in that Metallica video, banging his head against the bed in morse code, begging that they kill him. No arms, no legs, no eyes. Only difference is that Hiller can talk. Oliver Spencer chooses him for "Project Cyborg" because of his experience in doing black ops missions gives him Level 6 security clearance. What he doesn't know is the reason why Hiller became a soldier in the first place, and why he's such an effective member of the Special Forces, is because he is a sociopath with a fondness for violence. After he realizes what kind of damage he's capable of, Hiller goes off the deep end and becomes a rogue agent, working for the highest bidder. And that's what gets Spencer and Franklin dismissed from the OSI.
 
That sounds like it could work with Hiller. It would definitely give him the edge on Steve Austin, which is what you want - a villain who is more powerful/ dangerous than the hero.

I'm hoping they'll upload the Bionic Reunion movies to those websites soon.
 
I really like the idea of Jackman playing a villian,it seems like he could cut loose and have a great time with it. As far as DiCaprio playing Austin....after watching The Departed,Blood Diamond, and a few others.... I can see him being able to handle the action and drama no problem.Leo is a fantastic actor whos come a long way from the kid in Titanic. I'm not opposed to him playing the part at all. Singer directing? Yeah Superman had its good moments and X2 was great,so yeah I'm down for it
 
I really like the idea of Jackman playing a villain,it seems like he could cut loose and have a great time with it. As far as DiCaprio playing Austin....after watching The Departed,Blood Diamond, and a few others.... I can see him being able to handle the action and drama no problem.Leo is a fantastic actor who's come a long way from the kid in Titanic. I'm not opposed to him playing the part at all. Singer directing? Yeah Superman had its good moments and X2 was great,so yeah I'm down for it

I've never liked Leonardo Decapitated, so I wouldn't want him anywhere near a 6MDM movie, let alone be cast in the lead. I don't know what it is, there's just something about the guy that annoys the hell out of me. I avoid his movies like the plague, and would rather not include The 6MDM in that list.

But Jackman as Hiller? And Singer directing? Yeah, I can definitely get behind those ideas.
 
You know that John Houseman (Dr Franklin) played Lindsay Wagner's father in The Paper Chase movie, just a few years earlier? She didn't reprise her role in the series but Houseman's character, Kingsfield, still acted in much the same way as he does as Dr Franklin.

BTW, I remember that John Saxon played a male robot created by Dr Dolenz, who took on Steve Austin in one of the earlier seasons. He was pretty similar to the Fembots, but his face didn't come off. However, the 6MDM toy "Maskatron" (who was the toy villain) was based on John Saxon's likeness but he had a removable face like the Fembots.

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I think Dolenz and Franklin could be colleagues in a future movie and they could work on these robots together. Dolenz might concentrate on the men while Franklin focuses on the ladies.

I just recently saw the fight between Lee Majors and John Saxon from that episode on You Tube, and actually his face DID come off. Cool pics though.
 

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