My cast for Black order (please note I would also make sure that they made appearances throughout phase 3):
Ebony Maw:
Ralph Fiennes- Just watch he's performances as Hades and Voldermort
I think that those roles actually show him to be unfit for the character, actually. Ebony Maw seems more like the unassuming Starscream rather than a large-and-in-charge Big Bad that exudes presence.
No thanks. Just about the most generic bunch of sub-boss-baddies I've ever come across. I've been out on Marvel comics since Infinity... though I'm planning to jump back in with some of the All-New, All-Different stuff. Didn't like about 90% of the Hickman stuff with respect to Thanos, the Avengers, etc.
No. I'd rather they fight Thanos.Would you rather see the avengers fight yet another army of guys they generally outclass or against a team of villains? I know I would go for the Black order as we have not seen the Avengers fight another team.
No. I'd rather they fight Thanos.
And no, that doesn't mean IW1 and IW2 have to be one long 5 hour fight sequence. While there are a lot of things from Thanos Quest and Infinity Gauntlet that would need to be changed to fit the context of the MCU, I'm hoping for IW1 and IW2 to follow that broad template. At this point, Thanos hiring more minions to do his "fighting" for him would make little to no sense.
No. I'd rather they fight Thanos.
And no, that doesn't mean IW1 and IW2 have to be one long 5 hour fight sequence. While there are a lot of things from Thanos Quest and Infinity Gauntlet that would need to be changed to fit the context of the MCU, I'm hoping for IW1 and IW2 to follow that broad template. At this point, Thanos hiring more minions to do his "fighting" for him would make little to no sense.
The movies are called AVENGERS: Infinity War, so I don't want to see an entire movie centered around Thanos collecting all the stones. Every general needs an army, and after the Chitauri invasion, Thanos knows he needs an army suited to take on The Avengers. Why would he sully his own hands when he can have others do his work for him. Imagine that The Avengers barely defeat the Black Order, then to only get stomped by Thanos. That would be awesome. The Kree would likely be involved as well.
"Fine, I'll do it myself."
The point of the AoU stinger is that Thanos is, as the old adage goes, getting things done right by doing it himself. If you're going with Thanos as the giant brute, then you're doing a piss poor job building him up as a physical threat by once again bringing out minions to do his heavy lifting, especially since he only has two and half hours for his standard abilities to make a cinematic impression before they get overshadowed by his omnipotence.
Marvel will have 5-6 hours of film to build up Thanos physically. That's more than enough time.
Thanos remarks on "doing it himself" doesn't preclude the possibility of gathering an army himself. Contrast this with giving an army to Loki in Avengers 1. I seriously doubt that an entire movie is going to be devoted to Thanos already having all the infinity stones. What would be the point? For that, Thanos would have all the stones by the final third act of the final movie.
That's not gonna happen. Even if you're going with the idea that they need to establish him as a physical threat, you're not gonna get 2 and a half hours of the Avengers just fighting one guy. It won't happen.
Even though Whedon isn't involved, he said he assumed the same thing, which as a writer, he should. Having a massive team of heroes against one dude is not enough to carry a story.
That's the thing. When you have several dozen main characters, you're going to want them to be able to do something other than "Everyone dog pile on Thanos!"
He's gonna have minions working under him to give the Avengers something to do. And regardless, he needs other characters around to talk to. This is another simple writing point. Having Thanos babbling endlessly to nobody in particular works fine in the confines of a comic book (Starlin loves doing this) but less so in a live action movie. You can't have him talking incessantly to nobody in particular about his goals or motivations, so they're gonna have someone else to fill that role.