TA needed this record in order to validate Marvel's plan of having different movies leading up to this.
TDKR does not need an opening record. The hardcore anti-Marvel fans need it for bragging rights.
Quality-wise, both movies will hold up in my opinion. But here again, even if TDKR sweeps the Oscars, I don't think that takes away from the enjoyment of TA.
These kind of "us vs them" mentalities are self-destructive. We should want all quality comic-book movies to do well, as a rising tide lifts all boats. I'm sorry, if you honestly think that TA is not one of the top 5, if not top 3 comic book movies of all time, then there is no argument that will persuade you.
Amen to this. It's pretty sad that some have to piss on other people's parade. Granted there's people on both sides that have contributed to the problem, but I find if funny that some of the people who were predicting 140-150 for Avengers (which is basically a lower attendance than IM2), suddenly come out and have to talk down the success of this film.
Unfortunately this kind of behavior probably goes back to Spider-man 1, saying that it was the best because it made the most money. Then when TDK broke SM3's record I remember someone posting a .gif of Batman punching Peter Parker, it goes on and on from there.
Bottom line, people loved TDK, and people love Avengers. But for those of you who said there's no way that Avengers would do this, time to eat your crow and move on. The film was at least going to open to 160M, and anyone who studies Box office knew this. 160M was the conservative estimates. When the 18.1 M midnight came in, I knew it would break 200M, because typically midnight May movies represent a much smaller percentage.
If you read the BOM articles even they knew that, and they said they didn't have any models to accurately represent what was happening, because when they plugged in IM2 numbers they were coming up with 240M, and SM3 numbers, they came up with over 300M, so they reverted back to "about what TDK did"
This wasn't just about 3D either, because there's a good chance that Avengers will have a higher attendance than TDK, and that's shouldn't shock anyone, because TDK was not a "kid friendly" movie. Where Avengers probably appeals to a wider demographic. That doesn't make it better or worse, that's just stating something that should be obvious.
TDKR will do fine, and I agree that if any film should worry it's TASM which basically needs to get excellent reviews or it will largely be ignored.
I'm just saying, if the shoe fits, you gotta wear it.
