The Dark Knight Rises The Box Office Thread

[The Batman]

Looking at the movies that held OW records...Batman not only held it four times...he beat himself when "Batman Returns" was released.

 

[Liam_H]

One of the most level headed. Hey, I've responded to you over ther before under my real name. CS.

When was this or for what article? I vaguely remember seeing someone with the name of 'CS'. Unless there is more to your name than that.

 

[Anita18]

Mendelson wrote that article on Sunday and revised it yesterday after the actuals came in. He loves doing the math on box offices.

But people on WorldofKJ.com and Boxoffice.com are still touting the "several hundred thousand more than TDK" number (whatever the hell it is) after doing their own calculations and not believing the 26 million admissions number. I'm really tired and I can't find any non-cussing posts that talk about it specifically. But they don't believe it.

Nobody will know the truth, but the difference is WAY smaller than 4 million and at this point, has nothing to do with audience demand, but how many screens and showings the theaters are willing to put up.

 

[Liam_H]

Looking at the movies that held OW records...Batman not only held it four times...he beat himself when "Batman Returns" was released.

Yeap, interesting that most of them are repeat offenders. With only POTC and JP being the lone film of their respective franchises. Since 1989 that is.

 

[J.Howlett]

When was this or for what article? I vaguely remember seeing someone with the name of 'CS'. Unless there is more to your name than that.

Avengers box office and review/spoiler. Cory.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

I doubt it takes that long. He bases all off of previous films of similar nature or previous entries in the series. You can write a program for it or he has excel where he just punches a number in and it'll give him a range etc.

Oh, that definitely sounds easier.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Looking at the movies that held OW records...Batman not only held it four times...he beat himself when "Batman Returns" was released.

That I did NOT know. I honestly thought Bats only held it twice.

 

[Liam_H]

Avengers box office and review/spoiler. Cory.

Lol, so you're corysims, I'm sure you recognize me as the same person but I never knew you were. Scott has so much more readers but most of them don't leave a comment, I wish they would do so here and there.

 

[Liam_H]

That I did NOT know. I honestly thought Bats only held it twice.

Four times since 1989.

 

[J.Howlett]

Lol, so you're corysims, I'm sure you recognize me as the same person but I never knew you were. Scott has so much more readers but most of them don't leave a comment, I wish they would do so here and there.

Yeah. I wish they would as well. Great source of info and nice level-headed editorials about trends and issues in the industry.

 

[Liam_H]

Yeah. I wish they would as well. Great source of info and nice level-headed editorials about trends and issues in the industry.

Surprising thing is that I don't agree with a lot of his opinions on movies. But his arguments and critiques are so sound and fair that its still a joy to read.

 

[J.Howlett]

Surprising thing is that I don't agree with a lot of his opinions on movies. But his arguments and critiques are so sound and fair that its still a joy to read.

Yeah. They are. I tend to wait until he posts his review before I read others. He critiques well...even if you disagree.

 

[Fenrir]

Looking at the movies that held OW records...Batman not only held it four times...he beat himself when "Batman Returns" was released.

This is why all these posts with "there's no way in hell in TDKR breaking Avengers' records" are so premature and silly. If there is one constant in this business, it's that nothing is certain. With TDK's goodwill, Nolan's direction and the Batman brand backing it, it does not take a rocket scientist to accept that there is a very real possibility that TDKR is going to set the bar once again like its predecessor did.

Even all the hype is about the Avengers right now, it is still indirectly fueling TDKR's buzz. Every article and news segment reporting the records smashed by the Avengers mentions TDK and/or TDKR in some capacity or another, and everyone from industry pundits and talk show hosts are asking the same question - can TDKR beat the Avengers? You know what that is? Free publicity. You know why? Because TDKR is and always has been the thousand pound gorilla this summer. Nolan is making IMAX cinema-owners use film projection just for TDKR alone. With influence like that, does anyone think that TDKR is not going to run in at least as many theaters as The Avengers?

The best part about all this is that the real anticipation for the film hasn't even started yet. It will reach its fever pitch at the same time and in the same way it did for TDK - when word about the advance screenings starts to leak, when critics break their embargo and post online their gushing reviews about the film and TV personalities like Conan and Letterman can't help themselves from giving it even more free publicity. TDK had a 95% tomatometer rating and consensus two weeks before it came out. As soon as word got out about how good the film was, it was an absolute frenzy with the media blitz and how quickly showings were selling out. The midnight screenings in New York are already sold out. As more and more advanced bookings sell out in the coming weeks, it will only result in more positive buzz.

 

[Greens]

This is why all these posts with "there's no way in hell in TDKR breaking Avengers' records" are so premature and silly. If there is one constant in this business, it's that nothing is certain. With TDK's goodwill, Nolan's direction and the Batman brand backing it, it does not take a rocket scientist to accept that there is a very real possibility that TDKR is going to set the bar once again like its predecessor did.

Even all the hype is about the Avengers right now, it is still indirectly fueling TDKR's buzz. Every article and news segment reporting the records smashed by the Avengers mentions TDK and/or TDKR in some capacity or another, and everyone from industry pundits and talk show hosts are asking the same question - can TDKR beat the Avengers? You know what that is? Free publicity. You know why? Because TDKR is and always has been the thousand pound gorilla this summer. Nolan is making IMAX cinema-owners use film projection just for TDKR alone. With influence like that, does anyone think that TDKR is not going to run in at least as many theaters as The Avengers?

The best part about all this is that the real anticipation for the film hasn't even started yet. It will reach its fever pitch at the same time and in the same way it did for TDK - when word about the advance screenings starts to leak, when critics break their embargo and post online their gushing reviews about the film and TV personalities like Conan and Letterman can't help themselves from giving it even more free publicity. TDK had a 95% tomatometer rating and consensus two weeks before it came out. As soon as word got out about how good the film was, it was an absolute frenzy with the media blitz and how quickly showings were selling out. The midnight screenings in New York are already sold out. As more and more advanced bookings sell out in the coming weeks, it will only result in more positive buzz.

TDKR is getting a lot of publicity thanks to the Avengers.

 

[J.Howlett]

Nolan is making IMAX cinema-owners use film projection just for TDKR alone.

Whoa. Are you saying that those IMAX theatres that switched to digital recently are switching back just for Rises?

 

[Anita18]

Whoa. Are you saying that those IMAX theatres that switched to digital recently are switching back just for Rises?

The ones that were built just for digital projections (ie, LieMAXes) are probably not big enough, but I didn't hear about digital changeover going back to film. That's astounding, if true.

 

[BatLobster]

This is why all these posts with "there's no way in hell in TDKR breaking Avengers' records" are so premature and silly. If there is one constant in this business, it's that nothing is certain. With TDK's goodwill, Nolan's direction and the Batman brand backing it, it does not take a rocket scientist to accept that there is a very real possibility that TDKR is going to set the bar once again like its predecessor did.

Even all the hype is about the Avengers right now, it is still indirectly fueling TDKR's buzz. Every article and news segment reporting the records smashed by the Avengers mentions TDK and/or TDKR in some capacity or another, and everyone from industry pundits and talk show hosts are asking the same question - can TDKR beat the Avengers? You know what that is? Free publicity. You know why? Because TDKR is and always has been the thousand pound gorilla this summer. Nolan is making IMAX cinema-owners use film projection just for TDKR alone. With influence like that, does anyone think that TDKR is not going to run in at least as many theaters as The Avengers?

The best part about all this is that the real anticipation for the film hasn't even started yet. It will reach its fever pitch at the same time and in the same way it did for TDK - when word about the advance screenings starts to leak, when critics break their embargo and post online their gushing reviews about the film and TV personalities like Conan and Letterman can't help themselves from giving it even more free publicity. TDK had a 95% tomatometer rating and consensus two weeks before it came out. As soon as word got out about how good the film was, it was an absolute frenzy with the media blitz and how quickly showings were selling out. The midnight screenings in New York are already sold out. As more and more advanced bookings sell out in the coming weeks, it will only result in more positive buzz.

This. Never count out ol' Batsy.

 

[Phoenix2088]

The ones that were built just for digital projections (ie, LieMAXes) are probably not big enough, but I didn't hear about digital changeover going back to film. That's astounding, if true.

It was in a WSJ article, but is probably incorrect. The odds of that happening are simply improbable due the massive costs involved.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I don't hate that The Avenger's is making money. It's a fun movie and I like the actors so good for them. It's better than Potter having it because The Avenger's actually sold the most tickets so it's win isn't false.

 

[J.Howlett]

It was in a WSJ article, but is probably incorrect. The odds of that happening are simply improbable due the massive costs involved.

That's what I assumed.

 

[Fenrir]

Whoa. Are you saying that those IMAX theatres that switched to digital recently are switching back just for Rises?

I do remember reading something about that but I can't seem to recall where exactly. It said that how quite a few IMAX theaters will be bringing back film projection for TDKR. For now, the only thing that I could find was this bit:

IMAX hasn't yet committed to films for August and September, because it wants to give "The Dark Knight Rises" more time to run. That film, will be screened at 100 of IMAX's largest locations in traditional film format, requiring exhibitors to reconvert from digital to film at their own expense.

For this unusual mandate, thank that old IMAX fan, Mr. Nolan the director. "I felt if we could have one of those in every major city, we could justify the difficulty of going to a lot of trouble to shoot this way," he says. "You will see a crisper image."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304299304577347940832511540.html

It may not say the exact same thing, but you can see how it is a logical outcome. Considering that digital IMAX theaters will have to convert from digital to film at their own expense combined with the fact that TDKR will be running in IMAX theaters for at least three whole months, you can see why exhibitors would switch back to film projection for TDKR.

 

[BatLobster]

It makes total sense though. With like an hour or so shot on IMAX stock, it's basically the equivalent of an IMAX theater bringing back their 65mm projector for a nature or space doc shot in IMAX. If they know something is going to be playing for a long time it makes sense.

 

[J.Howlett]

I do remember reading something about that but I can't seem to recall where exactly. It said that how quite a few IMAX theaters will be bringing back film projection for TDKR. For now, the only thing that I could find was this bit:



It may not say the exact same thing, but you can see how it is a logical outcome. Considering that digital IMAX theaters will have to convert from digital to film at their own expense combined with the fact that TDKR will be running in IMAX theaters for at least three whole months, you can see why exhibitors would switch back to film projection for TDKR.

I hope to God this turns out to be true. Redfirebird mentioned that the IMAX digital process kind of screws with films that were shot in IMAX.

Essentially because the projectors can't handle the resolution of 70mm, there are black bars at the top and bottom of the IMAX image. It's still huge in a traditional IMAX theatre but it's not floor to ceiling like it would be if projected on film.

 

[Fenrir]

It makes total sense though. With like an hour or so shot on IMAX stock, it's basically the equivalent of an IMAX theater bringing back their 65mm projector for a nature or space doc shot in IMAX. If they know something is going to be playing for a long time it makes sense.

That would be my educated guess. Many IMAX theaters that are now digital had film projection to start with, so in all likelihood they didn't just throw away all their old equipment after the recent switch to digital. Since TDKR is the only film to have more than an hour of footage in the actual proprietary IMAX format, it is as much as the IMAX corporation's baby as it is Chris Nolan's. TDKR's success will decide the future of the IMAX format, so it does not take a huge leap of faith to assume that the IMAX corporation will mandate as many exhibitors as it could to show TDKR the way it was meant to be seen.

 

[Superhero 101]

This is why all these posts with "there's no way in hell in TDKR breaking Avengers' records" are so premature and silly. If there is one constant in this business, it's that nothing is certain. With TDK's goodwill, Nolan's direction and the Batman brand backing it, it does not take a rocket scientist to accept that there is a very real possibility that TDKR is going to set the bar once again like its predecessor did.

Even all the hype is about the Avengers right now, it is still indirectly fueling TDKR's buzz. Every article and news segment reporting the records smashed by the Avengers mentions TDK and/or TDKR in some capacity or another, and everyone from industry pundits and talk show hosts are asking the same question - can TDKR beat the Avengers? You know what that is? Free publicity. You know why? Because TDKR is and always has been the thousand pound gorilla this summer. Nolan is making IMAX cinema-owners use film projection just for TDKR alone. With influence like that, does anyone think that TDKR is not going to run in at least as many theaters as The Avengers?

The best part about all this is that the real anticipation for the film hasn't even started yet. It will reach its fever pitch at the same time and in the same way it did for TDK - when word about the advance screenings starts to leak, when critics break their embargo and post online their gushing reviews about the film and TV personalities like Conan and Letterman can't help themselves from giving it even more free publicity. TDK had a 95% tomatometer rating and consensus two weeks before it came out. As soon as word got out about how good the film was, it was an absolute frenzy with the media blitz and how quickly showings were selling out. The midnight screenings in New York are already sold out. As more and more advanced bookings sell out in the coming weeks, it will only result in more positive buzz.

Totally Agree With You The Avengers may have had a great opening weekend and hell it will make a billion but TDKR will definitely make as much heck even more then Avengers because if you look at it there aren't any other great summer movies releasing after TDKR i mean Bourne Legacy and Expendables 2 are no threats to Batman. TDKR will do great and will have great legs and i think it will make more money than Avengers. I mean look at how many times the new trailer got downloaded to the Avengers 13 million vs 24 there clearly has a huger anticipation for TDKR. I am not worried