The Brave & The Bold Thread

[TheCorpulent1]

It's been scientifically proven that if Huntress is involved, it blows at least a little ass. She was the worst part of JLA during her brief tenure and she's the second-worst part of Birds of Prey after Misfit.

 

[The Eagle Host]

God I miss Aztek.

 

[yenaled]

I think B&B might be a little bit more interesting if one of the JLA's big seven weren't in just about every issue. Waid gave us an introductory arc with Batman, Green Lantern, and other DCU heavyweights aplenty; how about some more stories with some fringe characters. Team the Spectre up with the Question or something instead of giving us Batman appearance #5,129,390,907.

I think one thing I was surprised about with Waid's B&B is I enjoyed it (not loved it but it was a solid read) despite the characters he was using.

 

[Varient]

Enjoyed the challengers, Metamorpho,. and even firstorm.

I had issues with supes losing his powers under a green sun,.... by canon he should actually have been stronger - since green is higher up the visible spectrum than yellow.

 

[Aristotle]

Zauriel-Faith-Batgirl-Kyle Rayner team up hour.

You would cream your pants if that happened, with a good writer.

She was the worst part of JLA during her brief tenure and she's the second-worst part of Birds of Prey after Misfit.

Nonsense. Neither Huntress nor Misfit is worse than Black Alice. Oh good God I hate Black Alice. Mostly because I know people like her in real life, and all I want to do is help them slit their wrists.

God I miss Aztek.

Me the **** too.

I had issues with supes losing his powers under a green sun,.... by canon he should actually have been stronger - since green is higher up the visible spectrum than yellow.

Is that how it works? Wow, why didn't I know that?

 

[fifthfiend]

It's been scientifically proven that if Huntress is involved, it blows at least a little ass. She was the worst part of JLA during her brief tenure and she's the second-worst part of Birds of Prey after Misfit.

More like second-best part after herself cause she's also the first best part. I guess you could swap her out for, say, Firestorm if it meant that much to you.

Also I totally should have mentioned Plastic Man in the aforementioned team but I forgot that they were actually crazy enough to take Plastic Man out of the Justice League.

I mean I actually sitting here saying "so who else was totally great that isn't on the Justice League anymore, maybe Plastic Man? Naw, no way they'd have been crazy enough to take Plastic Man off the team."

 

[Aristotle]

They took him off a long-ass time ago, didn't they? Like around the time Kyle Baker did his Plas book?

 

[Varient]

Is that how it works? Wow, why didn't I know that?

Sarcasm?

Anyway,... From the Silver age on DC had been saying that his powers fluctuated based on the spectrum of the stars he was under. literally tens of stories written on the subject.

Red = No powers
Orange = Half the Max power available under yellow
Yellow = The power level we are used to
Green = Half again as powerful as he would be under yellow
Blue = SuperCharged

I don't remember any stories of him under a Purple Star.


Peace.

 

[The Eagle Host]

They took him off a long-ass time ago, didn't they? Like around the time Kyle Baker did his Plas book?

I think Plastic Man was dropped after Kelly left. Along with the quality.

 

[Aristotle]

Sarcasm?

Anyway,... From the Silver age on DC had been saying that his powers fluctuated based on the spectrum of the stars he was under. literally tens of stories written on the subject.

Red = No powers
Orange = Half the Max power available under yellow
Yellow = The power level we are used to
Green = Half again as powerful as he would be under yellow
Blue = SuperCharged

I don't remember any stories of him under a Purple Star.


Peace.

No, not sarcasm. I guess I hadn't realized that post-COIE canon was still working that way. Post-COIE, they've only really shown him under red and yellow suns.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, it may not be working that way anymore. Superman's powers have fluctuated, changed, and been retconned a lot.

 

[Varient]

No, not sarcasm. I guess I hadn't realized that post-COIE canon was still working that way. Post-COIE, they've only really shown him under red and yellow suns.

Well, it may not be working that way anymore. Superman's powers have fluctuated, changed, and been retconned a lot.

Then I wish they would do a definitive on the current version of Superman or at least Kryptonians.

For example - OYL inferred that Solar energy absorbing WAS A CHOICE for Superman, While All Star Superman made it impossible to regulate his solar power charging - hence he's dying from too much yellow sun energy.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

All Star doesn't count; we already know that much.

OYL implied that solar energy absorption is somehow linked to Clark's brain, not that it's a choice. A choice implies conscious consideration. Clark was just burnt out from fighting so hard in Infinite Crisis that he subconsciously just wanted a break to live life like everyone else, which translated into his body shutting down its solar energy absorption. It was a psychosomatic thing, not a choice.

I agree on some definitive handbook of Superman's powers, though. That would be great. Unfortunately, those are viewed as limitations a lot of the time, since they definitively lock a character's powers into a status quo, giving readers an ostensibly official source to point to when they ***** about inconsistencies. So I doubt we'll see that.

 

[Varient]

All Star doesn't count; we already know that much.

OYL implied that solar energy absorption is somehow linked to Clark's brain, not that it's a choice. A choice implies conscious consideration. Clark was just burnt out from fighting so hard in Infinite Crisis that he subconsciously just wanted a break to live life like everyone else, which translated into his body shutting down its solar energy absorption. It was a psychosomatic thing, not a choice.

I agree on some definitive handbook of Superman's powers, though. That would be great. Unfortunately, those are viewed as limitations a lot of the time, since they definitively lock a character's powers into a status quo, giving readers an ostensibly official source to point to when they ***** about inconsistencies. So I doubt we'll see that.

All star is only an example of what I mean.

I think that it should be possible w/o limiting the character.

Heck,... Superman is definetly more than halfway back to where he was power-wise Pre-Crisis.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

True, and his powers are continuing to change, seemingly based on writers' whims, just like they did pre-Crisis. That may be why they're shying away from nailing down a list of them.

 

[Varient]

True, and his powers are continuing to change, seemingly based on writers' whims, just like they did pre-Crisis. That may be why they're shying away from nailing down a list of them.

Waiting on super ventriquism.

 

[Doc Destruction]

Or hypnotism.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm waiting for his rematch with Ali so he can lose again.

 

[Aristotle]

But he lost INSPIRATIONALLY!

Batman: The last time you inspired anyone...was when you LOST to Muhammad Ali.

 

[venom892]

I think I might give JMS a try.I haven't read B&B since issue 2 though.

 

[yenaled]

Straczynski went down the list of some of his planned team-ups for the book such as Batman and Spectre, Lex Luthor and Swamp Thing, Deadman and Wonder Woman, Flash (Barry Allen) and the Blackhawks, Constantine and Eclipso, Doom Patrol and the Legion of Super-Heroes, Two-Face and Hawk and Dove, Challengers of the Unknown and the Metal Men and, the audience’s favorite, the Legion of Substitute Heroes and the Inferior Five.

lol vertigo.

 

[Themanofbat]

lol vertigo.

It's been established that Constantine & Swamp Thing are one the same DCU as Batman; therefore, it would only make sense that you'd have them involved in a team up (and seeing as Constantine was in an issue of Sandman, it makes sense that any of those characters would appear as well), like Destiny did in Waid's first 12 issues (ok, the first and the last parts).

I'm glad DC is putting a big name on the book, giving it a chance to keep it alive, rather than getting cancelled by issue #20.

 

[yenaled]

Not really the issue

It was more the fact that any characters "owned" by Vertigo aren't allowed to show up in DCU books - but it looks like JMS has got around this.

 

[Themanofbat]

Not really the issue

It was more the fact that any characters "owned" by Vertigo aren't allowed to show up in DCU books - but it looks like JMS has got around this.

Yeah... I'd really like to see more of them pop up from time to time...

A Constantine/Batman team up would be swell...

 

[Aristotle]

Constantine writers + Batman = oh great, another Ennis-style take on why superheroes, and of course specifically Batman, are so stupid and take everything so seriously and man they're so dumb I hate them but mostly because none of my original characters are anywhere near as timeless and classic as Batman.