The Cloverfield Paradox

That was really good! I felt like it was what Life was trying to do last year.

I just recently watched Life and enjoyed the hell out of it personally.

But anyways halfway through this so far, might be biased because I love this franchise but enjoy this a ton as well. I don’t and can’t rank one film better than the other in this franchise because they’re different types of films to me.
 
This movie was pretty underwhelming. I was enjoying it part of the way through but it started to fall apart. And that ending sucked. It lacked tension, atmosphere, felt rushed and was odd in tone at times. It had an interesting set up and premise but it all fell apart. I can see why they released this on Netflix.

I can appreciate 10 Cloverfield Lane for still feeling more standalone yet a spiritual successor but if we're just gonna keep getting these where they need to connect to the first movie in some way and done haphazardly then I'm out. This movie has some big problems but all I'm gonna see is clickbait articles saying, "What Does This REALLY Mean for the Cloverfield Cinematic Universe??!!!"

Mark this up to being a disappointment. It doesn't even touch the last two.
 
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Life Pt. 2 pretty much sums this up


Also I was waiting for the "War Ready" song at the end :o
 
Loved it. Maybe for the next Cloverfield, it'll be from the militarys perspective. Also, in regards to the ending:

The mother, I'm guessing? Clovie couldn't have grown up that quick.
Either way...holy f***.
 
Man, this is getting sh-- on all over Twitter. I'm surprised, I didn't think it was bad at all. Not perfect, but nowhere near bad.
 
That was so obviously a completely unrelated script that they tacked on some Cloverfield material onto. Nothing much gained from doing so. Everything with the husband on Earth is wasted screentime. Not great.
 
It was enjoyable, but that final shot felt so very tacked on and disconnected. And the stuff with the husband should have been cut.
 
This movie was pretty underwhelming. I was enjoying it part of the way through but it started to fall apart. And that ending sucked. It lacked tension, atmosphere, felt rushed and was odd in tone at times. It had an interesting set up and premise but it all fell apart. I can see why they released this on Netflix.

I can appreciate 10 Cloverfield Lane for still feeling more standalone yet a spiritual successor but if we're just gonna keep getting these where they need to connect to the first movie in some way and done haphazardly then I'm out. This movie has some big problems but all I'm gonna see is clickbait articles saying, "What Does This REALLY Mean for the Cloverfield Cinematic Universe??!!!"

Mark this up to being a disappointment. It doesn't even touch the last two.


They should have just let this be another anthology entry. Hopefully with the 4th one apparently being a WW2 film they can just leave it alone.
 
Nah. There are certainly connections (and the ending is one giant reference/connection), but like the others this is essentially a standalone.

That ending is just kind of random and pointless. Like really you could put that shot at the end of any film and it'd have about the same effect.

"Event Horizon, but then the Cloverfield monster shows up!"

"50 First Dates, but then the Cloverfield monster shows up!"

"Dunkirk, but then the Cloverfield monster shows up!"
 
Just finished it. Liked it a lot. Left me with more questions than answers, but I still liked it. And was it just me, or was the bunker that the husband took that little girl to, the same bunker from 10 Cloverfield Lane?
 
Also, just realized, the guy at the beginning that was in the video warning everyone of the "Cloverfield Paradox" has the last name of Stambler... same last name as John Goodmans character in 10 Cloverfield Lane.
 
Speaking of John Goodman's character in 10 Cloverfield Lane, didn't he have a line in there referencing some conspiracy about [blackout]mutant space worms[/blackout]? I thought a certain scene in this might have been a call back to that.
 
Yoooooo that for me was another great entry to the franchise. The ending! Gotta wonder now how this all fits in with everything, but that ending love that!
 
Just finished. The way I saw it, this kind of set the paradox as responsible for what happened in Cloverfield and 10 Cloverfield Lane. Also, mutiple universes, all the infinite possible situations.
 
The final shot of the movie made me SO HAPPY.
 
OK a few things:

The physicist is able to crack that they are in an alternate dimension and never considered that could happen at the beginning.

Then it's just a matter of "what we know about quantum entanglement will get us back home." Umm how? How can in just a few minutes you can figure out that in an infinite multiverse that quantum entanglement will get you back where you need to be and repair the damage you've caused from the chaos? How would it send them back to the original universe from whence they came instead of another new one? Did they have the inter-dimensional coordinates?

Also JJ Abrams said the Cloverfield monster had been there for thousands of years. Not to mention, that movie gave no indication of an energy crisis or the type of advanced science that was available in this movie, such as the cure all accelerant healing medicine and the 3D printer that can print a working gun.

I guess my problem with the movie is that it felt like it was smashing a bunch of different movies and sci-fi conventions and tropes into one film. It never really felt like it had an identity of its own. The Cloverfield 1 material came off as very tacked on. If this is the way to explain the first movie, it failed in that regard IMO and it contradicts pretty much everything we know about the original Cloverfield.

Not a bad movie, just a very flawed and misguided one IMO.

More than anything it felt like a lesser remake of Event Horizon that pays some lip service to Cloverfield.

Also one more thing, I can't abide the fact that Zhang Ziyi is the only one not speaking English the entire movie. She speaks in Mandarin and subtitles the whole movie. Everyone understands what she's saying. She understands English, but her character isn't speaking English. WHY EXACTLY? This is not mean to come off as xenophobic. Case in point, Daniel Bruhl's character is German, mainly speaks English except when he's muttering. He's muttering and cursing in German offhand. The Russian guy Volkov, mainly speaks in English. The Brazilian doctor, Monk, speaking in English and NOT Portuguese.

I know Zhang Ziyi is not a native English speaker. I know she can speak English, at least well enough to get by. But seriously...WTF?

Also, I'm very much looking forward to the Cinema Sins for this one. I have a feeling it's going to be epic.
 
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Maybe the actress wanted to do it that way. It's easy to justify the character only speaking chinese. Everyone prefers speaking their native tongue if they can. And the character could be self conscious about speaking foreign languages. She might not speak it well.

Reminds me too of Dogen in Lost Season 6. He could speak English well, but he didn't like the way English "felt" on his tongue so he spoke Japanese as much as he could. He only spoke English when the listener couldnt speak Japanese or when a translator wasn't around.
 
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In a movie like that where she's the only character doing it, it makes no sense. At least put together a narrative reason. Why isn't everyone speaking in their native tongue then?
 
I liked it, but it honestly could have been called anything else. It kind of felt more connected to the first film than 10 Cloverfield Lane did, but at the same time it didn't, because the references were so brief. I really believe this could have turned out to be something great considering how good the cast was in terms of performances, but sadly it fell a bit short for me. Hopefully, we will get a proper Cloverfield sequel one day, because I do want to see it.
 
In a movie like that where she's the only character doing it, it makes no sense. At least put together a narrative reason. Why isn't everyone speaking in their native tongue then?

Cause they don't want to. They arent her and she isnt them. She isn't required to speak a non native language just because other people are doing so. Not when everyone around her can understand her. They are a crew that spends two years together. They work well together. They understand her fluently. She understands them fluently. It causes no problems. Would you force someone to speak in a foreign language when you can understand their native language?

I really dont understand why this is bothering you or why it even needs an explanation.
 
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That ending is just kind of random and pointless. Like really you could put that shot at the end of any film and it'd have about the same effect.

"Event Horizon, but then the Cloverfield monster shows up!"

"50 First Dates, but then the Cloverfield monster shows up!"

"Dunkirk, but then the Cloverfield monster shows up!"

To turn a phrase from another part of last night: “No, it’s a Cloverfield movie.”

Honestly though, this is absurd. What Bad Robot is doing, I mean. It is seemingly buying incomplete movies/scripts stuck in development hell, doing some quick reshoots or rewrites and transforming them into Cloverfield movies in an attempt to build a brand that can turn a profit from otherwise forgettable horror movies. The only thing worse than the laziness of it all is that Abrams is cynical enough to think anyone is buying all of his talk about some grand plan behind this blatant cash grab.
 
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I mean, I was okay with the movie for most of the runtime. It was very been there, done that, but it was a fine watch... Except for all that pointless crap with the husband. But then that big ending came... and it pretty well retroactively ruined it for me. I mean, geez. And people thought the 10CL ending was tacked on...?
 
So once again, they've taken a low-budget horror/thriller movie, shot a new ending for it, and then slapped the Cloverfield title on it. Two movies in and I am already tired of this shtick. Either make a proper Cloverfield movie from start to finish, or don't bother.
 
So, is this the worst of the Cloverfield series? I am still giving this a shot tonight, but curious for response.
 

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