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Iron Man 2 The Critics review Iron Man 2

I glad I'm not the only one that fel this way.

I'm also kind of pissed Marvel is shooting the Avengers before anyone has seen Cap or Thor. As if we'll just line up for Avengers whether we like Cap/Thor or not.

Well when you say "we" I assume you mean us, the fans. If so, we'll still be seeing the film, even if Thor and Cap are poor. :cwink: In regards to the general audience however, yes, it's quite a risky move to film the Avengers without even knowing what the response is to Thor and Cap.
 
I glad I'm not the only one that fel this way.

I'm also kind of pissed Marvel is shooting the Avengers before anyone has seen Cap or Thor. As if we'll just line up for Avengers whether we like Cap/Thor or not.
Really?

I guess I have a more careful and reserved personality than a lot of people, but that totally makes me go :doh:.
 
One review up at IMDB and it hits a home run...

Yes, I'm one of the fortunate few who got to see this gem a bit early and I'm happy to report that they took what worked so well in Iron Man and ran with it in an extremely gratifying way. The complexity, depth, heart and action are even more off the charts than the first film. It's is not just a great comic book movie but a great movie period. They took the complexities of Tony Stark that they established in movie one and built upon it masterfully. Now we get a reformed and guilt ridden weapons manufacturer weaved with a celebrity who should have never let the cat out of the bag in the final moments of Iron Man 1. They promised to up the action from the first film and they certainly did but the storytelling never suffers for it. Like in 2008, the evolution and growth of the characters is of paramount importance. It has the same flavor and humor of the original and it may even focus more on the fabulous relationships already developed. I was stunned at how they managed to deliver a better film. I didn't think that was possible. Everyone came to play and this great cast brought their best stuff and it shows on screen. Everyone knew Downey, Paltrow and Cheadle could act but Bill O'Reilly and The CNN anchor? Yes, they show up and do a GREAT job in extended cameos. Rourke and Rockwell are PERFECT as the duel foils for Tony Stark, I mean PERFECT. From the Grand Prix in Monaco to the amazing finale, buckle up because this is one intense, interesting, intelligent and fun ride. My only real complaint is that Scarlett's Black Widow has too little screen time. Still, a film that leaves you clamoring for more isn't the worst sin in the world.

When I was done viewing this movie, all I could think about was how it instantly stacks up to the all-time great sequels. What was said about classics like Spider-Man 2, X2, Empire Strikes Back, TDK and even Godfather 2 holds true for Iron Man 2. I honestly can't wait to see it again.

"I'm happy to report that they took what worked so well in Iron Man and ran with it in an extremely gratifying way. The complexity, depth, heart and action are even more off the charts than the first film."

That's all I want! Better then Godfather 2 would just be a bonus. :cwink:
 
A veeeeery positive review from Drew McWeeny over at HitFix:
Let's call this one the victory lap.

"Iron Man" was no guaranteed hit before the weekend it opened. There were people predicting failure for that film even after it opened, even after it started to turn into a word-of-mouth-must-see, not just a box-office success but a genuinely loved pop culture moment. The first movie's got its weak points, but it also has a ridiculous energy to it, and I unabashedly loved it when I reviewed it for Ain't It Cool.

"Iron Man 2" is, in every possible way, issue two of a comic book. It doesn't have to spend time setting up the origin of the character, and it doesn't feel the need to resolve every single story thread introduced in this one film. There's a sense that everyone's settling into this series and thinking big. It is just as confident as the first film, and incredibly aggressive in the way it handles story and characterization. The pre-title sequence picks up mere seconds after the ending of the first film, and introduces Ivan Vanko (Mickey Rourke), an embittered Russian with family ties that make Tony Stark a perfect target for his rage. By the time the main title appears onscreen, everything's already in motion, and then we're right into the Stark Expo, where Tony Stark (Robert Downey Jr.) takes the stage.

Do you remember on shows like "Happy Days" when the fan favorite character like Fonzie would make their first entrance and the audience would go nuts for so long that the actor would have to stop and wait for a moment and acknowledge all the applause? Well, that's the first ten minutes or so of this film after that opening title, as we're dropped into the daily life of Tony Stark, Public Superhero. He's at odds with the US Government, who want the suit, and he's at odds with Justin Hammer (Sam Rockwell), another weapons manufacturer who hates that Stark is everything Hammer wants to be. He's at odds with Pepper Potts (Gwenyth Paltrow), who is desperately trying to hold his company together even as his attention is being pulled in a thousand different directions. And he's at odds with his own body, which is failing him as the chest implant that powers him and that powers the suit slowly fails, poisoning him even as it keeps him alive. This is not a movie in which there's only single threat to Tony Stark or to the world, but in which he faces almost constant threats, and in which he's never given a moment to relax.

Jon Favreau has gotten even better at building his action sequences, and he stages a few showstoppers this time. Once Ivan Vanko finally builds his prototype Whiplash suit and debuts it during a Monaco street race, the stakes start to escalate for Tony quickly. It's a relentlessly paced film, and the action scenes aren't just one style over and over. I actually think one of the best in the film takes place between Iron Man and Col. James Rhodes (Don Cheadle), who shows up at Tony's birthday party only to find him drunk and dangerous, using the suit to show off. Rhodey has no choice but to suit up himself and stop Tony, and what starts as an intervention with armor turns into a brutal encounter in which long-simmering resentments suddenly blow up. It's a perfect example of the way this film manages to keep even the most outsized action scenes focused on character, with plenty of small, quirky flourishes.

The first "Iron Man" ended with a post-credits scene involving the introduction of Nick Fury (Samuel L. Jackson) and a quick mention of "The Avengers," and since then, there has been a lot of speculation and conversation about Marvel's game plan of eventually building one giant movie featuring Iron Man, Captain America, the Hulk, and Thor. The building blocks have never been more apparent than they are here, with Fury playing an actual role in the film and not just dropped into the post-credits sting. His organization SHIELD also plays a greatly increased role this time, and there are clues dropped to the role that Tony's father Howard (played briefly by Kevin Slattery, famed for his work in "Mad Men") had in founding SHIELD decades earlier. Both Captain America and Thor are overtly referenced in this film, and my guess is that we're going to see these references work directly into the films that Marvel has in the works for next summer. It's a fascinating gamble, and I talked to people after the film who were just annoyed by the whole thing, but I think it's like watching part of a big, crazy mini-series. I don't feel cheated at all by these clues. "Iron Man 2" works as a complete film without any of these "Avengers"-oriented moments, but they add to the overall texture of the piece in some really rewarding ways. One of the questions fans have had about the film is what role Natalie Rushman aka The Black Widow (Scarlett Johansson) would play in the film, and how she'd play into the larger continuity. I think it's a very smart, simple use of the character, and I'll wager we see her show up in several other movies in the Marvel universe in the next few years.

Besides... Scar-Jo in IMAX? Pretty much a Christmas gift. Ka-pow.

Don Cheadle's work here demonstrates a much better chemistry with Robert Downey Jr. than Terrence Howard did as Rhodes in the original, so I'm guessing this will be a casting switch that fans barely notice. Maybe it's because Rhodes has a better part this time, but everyone in the film registers with strong work. Sam Rockwell plays Justin Hammer as the funhouse mirror image of Tony Stark, and he plays more scenes with Mickey Rourke as Vanko than anyone else. The two of them give off a real air of danger, and they make an imposing threat to hang the film on. Even Clark Gregg, returning as Agent Coulson from the first film, has a few choice moments, which is good since we're going to see him in "Thor" next year. Paltrow and Downey come off as the Nick and Nora Charles of the Marvel universe with their lightning fast volleys of frustration shot through with affection, and there's an actual arc to their relationship here, etched in subtle but effective exchanges.

Films like this often come down to moments... are there moments in this movie I want to see again immediately? Yes. In fact, I'm leaving town this morning to do exactly that... see it again. And I'm taking my wife with me, because the first film sort of blew her mind. She didn't realize she (Robertdowneyjr) liked Iron Man so much as (Robertdowneyjr) a character, and it was so much fun (Robertodowneyjr) for her to watch. Ahem. I get it. That's what they're selling. That's the show. Him in the suit and him out of the suit is equally compelling to me in this film. I like Stark. I get him. He's tapdancing. He's living a certain version of himself in public. There's a POV sequence here (including a great cameo) that gives you an idea of what it's like in the helmet... only it's not the Iron Man helmet... it's the Tony Stark helmet. And more than that, it's the Robert Downey Jr. helmet. It's him that you're taking the ride with. And he doesn't get to hide behind a Bruce Wayne persona. When Tony Stark makes a public ass of himself, he does property damage because of his suit, and everyone knows it's him. They're nowhere near "Demon In A Bottle" here, but they certainly make Tony stupid and human and genuine as well as heroic and comic book cool.

ILM's work is more impressive this time out, precisely because it's hard to tell where the real suit stops and the CG suit begins, and Matthew Libatique's cinematography is richer, more vibrant. I have the same complaint about the score this time that I had about the first film... I still don't think there's an "Iron Man" theme that works. It's sound and fury and almost entirely forgettable. Still, if my one big complaint about the film is that I don't care for the score, that's a pretty good sign. I thought even without the shock of the new on its side, "Iron Man 2" works as a blast of pure confidence and charisma, absolutely effective, and I expect audiences are going to devour the film when it reaches theaters May 7th.
http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/2008-12...iew-iron-man-2-whips-the-summer-movie-formula

McWeeny (formerly Moriarty from Aint It Cool) has always been a favorite critic of mine, and one who's opinion I trust.
 
One review up at IMDB and it hits a home run...



"I'm happy to report that they took what worked so well in Iron Man and ran with it in an extremely gratifying way. The complexity, depth, heart and action are even more off the charts than the first film."

That's all I want! Better then Godfather 2 would just be a bonus. :cwink:

Sorry, but that review reads like a plant. Ultra hyperbolic.
 
That's why I was always so :huh: about fans whinging about how DC needed to get their act together and be like Marvel re: their big team-up movie. There's no proof at all that it's going to succeed. They'd only had TWO movies up to that point, one of them a runaway success and one of them just okay. A series of solo movies leading up to one big team-up movie is insane to bank on. Everything has to go right, because if you lose the audiences with IM2 (or any of the movies coming up), it's going to be hard to get them back. IM1 was a godsend, giving the audiences a lot of goodwill when it came to IM2. But IM2 has to give even more goodwill, because there's so many things down the road. I don't even want to think what the filmmakers for Avengers will go through if either Thor or Captain America disappoint.

I admire Marvel for having the guts to do it, and a Marvel Universe would be really cool to see on-screen. But fans have to realize film is not comic books. Film is not a TV series. You have 2-2.5 hours to build up and conclude a compelling story, which is hard enough in itself, let alone having to build up a bigger story with new characters within that time/story constraint.
Nobody suggested this route because its the sensible one for the companies, but its a dream come true for a fan like me. Marvel can fail, but the idea has a lot of merits, like

1) Hooking up the fans so that they watch all the films, even if say Thor doesnt intrigue them so much.
2) cater to the comicbook fans
3) Up the ante from other superhero franchises like DC's, who doesnt know what its doing and if it werent for Nolan they would have stopped making movies altogether.

- Should Marvel have gone more slowly with it? Yes, it would have been safer.
- Can it fail? Yes, but so might GL and B3.

But even if say Thor fails, it doesnt mean that Avengers will too because Ironman and Cap will be there to draw the fans. Just like i enjoy WW in the JL, but i cant be bothered for her solo book.
Plus all the plots that we've seen build up for so long will be resolved in the Avengers and that will draw the fans to watch it. That is why its a good thing that they re doing cameos and setting up the bigger Avengers plot and the wider Marvel Universe. It will all make Avengers feel like an organic follow up to all the separate movies.
 
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Earle,

If Thor and Cap fail, then the Avengers essentially becomes Iron Man 3, because (well, depending on this flick's box office) Tony Stark is a proven character on his own...

The chances of Captain America failing are greater than Green Lantern. I like Johnston a lot, but his track record is spotty. With Lantern, they got Martin Campbell. This is the guy that rebooted Bond twice and directed probably one of the all time great action adventure films in the last twenty years with The Mask of Zorro. Campbell's got the goods.

Thor is the enigma. With Branagh, I get a sense we're going to get something in tune with Ang Lee's Hulk. Personally, that film is in the top five of all of Marvel's films, but I understand why people hate. Thor has that potential to be just as off the wall with Branagh as the director.
 
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Mori always comes with the goods in his reviews a la Ebert, so that's good enough for me.
 
Earle,

If Thor and Cap fail, then the Avengers essentially becomes Iron Man 3, because (well, depending on this flick's box office) Tony Stark is a proven character on his own...

The chances of Captain America failing are greater than Green Lantern. I like Johnston a lot, but his track record is spotty. With Lantern, they got Martin Campbell. This is the guy that rebooted Bond twice and directed probably one of the all time great action adventure films in the last twenty years with The Mask of Zorro. Campbell's got the goods.

Thor is the enigma. With Branagh, I get a sense we're going to get something in tune with Ang Lee's Hulk. Personally, that film is in the top five of all of Marvel's films, but I understand why people hate. Thor has that potential to be just as off the wall with Branagh as the director.
But that requires both franchises to suck, which is less likely than only one sucking.

Actually, Cap is a much easier character to get right, and they can only blame themselves if it ends up sucking. Thor on the other hand is difficult because we re not talking about a movie like Clash of the Titans, but Clash of the Titans in the modern world next to RDJ's Ironman, which might make or break it.
In the end, one of these franchises might not be a success, but if they are at least decent, then an Avengers movie can only top it all off with a BANG. From then on, if say Thor sucks, only Cap and IM will keep their franchises.
 
With Thor you kind of have to go the route of a Harry Potter/Percy Jackson, yet more mature and for adults.
 
There are more and more positive review, I think it's a proof that the movie is not bad, maybe not as good that the first (despite I have read some review who said that this second part is better), but I think it will be very good.

For the Avengers potential connection, I think for me it's a big quality with the Marvel movies (some review maybe don't understand all the links like comicbook fans), sadly DC don't want to do the same.
 
Earle,

If Thor and Cap fail, then the Avengers essentially becomes Iron Man 3, because (well, depending on this flick's box office) Tony Stark is a proven character on his own...

The chances of Captain America failing are greater than Green Lantern. I like Johnston a lot, but his track record is spotty. With Lantern, they got Martin Campbell. This is the guy that rebooted Bond twice and directed probably one of the all time great action adventure films in the last twenty years with The Mask of Zorro. Campbell's got the goods.

Thor is the enigma. With Branagh, I get a sense we're going to get something in tune with Ang Lee's Hulk. Personally, that film is in the top five of all of Marvel's films, but I understand why people hate. Thor has that potential to be just as off the wall with Branagh as the director.

For the last time... Thor and Cap have no bearing on the Avengers movie barring a delay. Avengers may be finished filming before those movies are even out. What matters is the reception. The content will not be influenced in anyway outside of the reception IM2 gets.
 
Massawyrm on AICN has the best bad-movie reviews. They're always hilarious.


Isn't Massawyrm the same guy as Carlyle over at Spill? Yeah, i dig his stuff(even if he is a Michael Bay fan:doh:).
 
Isn't Massawyrm the same guy as Carlyle over at Spill? Yeah, i dig his stuff(even if he is a Michael Bay fan:doh:).

He has a penis, of course he's a Michael Bay fan. :awesome:
 
Who are these people that call TDK boring? I haven't ran into any of them. I'd say that Hellboy 2 was a very boring movie and so was Hulk IMHO but TDK? Not even a little.

That would be me, and I'm a HUGE Bat fan. TDK's action, aside from the Hong Kong sequence, were boring or over way too quickly (I'll put partial blame on IMAX for that). I can only watch TDK in pieces now, as it feels like a huge filler-like film to me. Plus Nolan promised an epic chase sequence on a grander or equal scale to that in the Matrix Reloaded, and what we got was meh. The chase in BB was better by far.

That aside, with a hero like IM, I expect to see action, whether its pointless or not. IM doesn't have a great rogue gallery IMO, so having a weak villain isn't a concern of mine; hell I anticpated it from the start until we see Mandarin. But if the film suffers from pacing problems (as TDK did for me, I nearly fell asleep towards the hostage scene and finale) and an overloading of characters that results in poor treatment ala SM3, then this will be an average film for me. I didn't love SM3 and was highly eager for it, but after the last couple of years it has grown on me when I regard it as a comic film that is fun. And thats all I want when it comes down to it, for the film to be fun. Still, I don't really mind downplaying a few things for an Avenger alignment, but we'll see how that works come next week.

I enjoyed TF2 solely for that reason, sure it was a trainwreck, but it was awesome fun. I won't put that sentiment on Batman since he's my #1 hero, and I enjoyed BB more than TDK, but I expect IM2 to be on par with the first as SM2 was in my eyes for SM1 also. A better, more enjoyable film, but not by much. I think people nowadays really need to get over critics and just judge things for their own damn selves.
 
The RT meter should be interesting. I think the % will be high thanks to the binary system, but the average rating will probably be a lot lower. It's at 6.7 now.
 
I can only watch TDK in pieces now, as it feels like a huge filler-like film to me.

Interesting. It's a flawed movie to be sure (especially SWAT/ferry boats/sonar along with pacing issues throughout), but it is a very good film IMHO and far more interesting from a thematic standpoint than any other superhero movie other than X2.
 
I have watched Begins thousands of times, but i've only watched TDK 5-6 times. Its a great film, i love how deep its themes are, the Joker, etc... but its too long and too crime drama-ish for my tastes. Ok the Tumbler chase scene was pretty good, but aside from the Hong Kong scene TDK didnt have any AWESOME moments that would make my jaw drop.
 
Batman's best stories are on the crime drama front. Hell, the Animated Series best episodes were the crime drama episodes. That's just the nature of the Batman.
 
i find the themes shallow myself and they are mealy addressed and not explored. ideas don't make for rewatchable films anyway unless you can forget ideas so easily that even coming across them in the first place would be pretty pointless.
 

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