The Crow

[the_ultimate_evil]

ohh f**k off

 

[Ultradude]

Hard to believe they are remaking the crow after 3 failed sequels. They never give up turning a quick buck.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=7912
O god no.

How can you make it more realistic, hard-edged, or gritty?

I know, I hope they dont bother with this, I think Norrington is gifted, but the first movie was just so brilliant, why mess with it?

 

[marcvader]

Make a really good sequel to this Hollywood, not another reboot, i beg you.

 

[X-Ray]

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=7912
O god no.

How can you make it more realistic, hard-edged, or gritty?

Aw **** :facepalm

 

[OsGom]

This movie is sacred. Hollywood needs to leave it alone. Make a quality sequel if you must but don't defile Brandon Lee's legacy.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Leave it alone.

 

[PunisherFC]

make it exactly like the graphic novel, with minor changes from O'Barr and it would be an acceptible remake imo.

 

[deathshead2]

Wonder if they'll add the skull-cowboy this time.

 

[OctaviusINC]

Wonder if they'll add the skull-cowboy this time.

Skull Cowboy's in the original, but all his scenes were deleted.

 

[Moviefan2k4]

The character of the Skull Cowboy isn't even present that much in O'Barr's original graphic novel. There's a drawing of a ghostly skeleton that Eric sees as he lay dying, and that served as an inspiration to Jeff Most, Alex Proyas, and the filmmakers for expanding that visage to a more prominent status in the 1994 film. The main reaosn why he was cut (according to Most) is because the special FX technology didn't exist at the time to do that character justice.

 

[Hellstormer]

Plus it added lessened the effect of the Crow knowing someone was more supernatural then himself.

 

[King K]

The Crow is my favorite movie of all time. It's literally the only movie were I enjoyed every single actor's performance and though it was flawless. I watched it a few nights ago and held the graphic novel in my hand and realized the dialogue in the movie was verbatim in a lot of scenes.

One page in the graphic novel I'd love to see in the remake that wasn't in the original movie:

Spoiler

When Eric slices Skank's feet off at the boot and Skank looks at Eric and says "My feet are cold, can I have my boots?"

 

[Darkness Falls]

Still unsure about a remake

it's a 50/50 with me

who could outshine Brandon? probably no one,
such a strong performance


if your going to remake the crow
follow the graphic novel

it would be cool if the whole film was B&W
give it that Goth Noir style

 

[Hellstormer]

Don't even mention B&W, next thing you know Frank Miller's in here ****ing the whole thing up.


In other news, anyone know if or when the Crow's getting a Blu-Ray release?

 

[SKSpawn]

Funny thing about The Crow is that there is no worry about infringing on the original with a follow up, but the studio apparently fails to realise this. The comic was about Eric and it remained a stand alone story for ages, and any other Crow stories have not been about Eric returning from the grave again. The Crow is not solely about Eric's story, so the key to another Crow movie is to recognise that the original film serves as a great example of how to make a Crow movie, not something to bleed off of with direct tie-in follow ups.

Technically, this means another Crow movie should be easy to do. The studio can easily ignore the other three follow ups because there is no need to reference them at all. Or, they could re-use a sub-plot from City Of Angels and have Sarah act as a guide for the Crow. I really don't see the point in remaking The Crow using Eric's story though, it should be an all-new character and draw inspiration from the original film and material not used from the comic, not re-tell a story that needs no re-telling.

You have a guy who is happy, maybe has a wife and kid, but is targetted unfairly by a gang of vicious SOBs and they are killed, then the Crow brings him back to enact revenge, which he does, and the film ends. It doesn't need to be Eric, but apparently they are now looking back and saying "the original Crow was the best, so let's re-make it because it was the best" rather than "here's a great example of a great story, let's base our work off this to tell another tale set in this world."

Gotta say though, if they use an idea like I'm saying, I would really like them to not use the now-cliche "attack the Crow to destroy the man" angle that occured in every single movie. While I see the benefits of making the hero mortal for the last battle to create some tension, it might be better to incorporate some of the thinking behind the final battle of Equilibrium, where the hero is a single-minded, kick-ass bad ass who takes people out. End of.

I'd also like to see the toning down of additional Crow attributes. Draven had strength, skill and the ability to see through the Crow's eyes, but also had the ability to see and transmute memories and pain from and to others. Ashe had the same abilities but, instead of the pain-thing, he could use magic tricks and summon a murder of crows at will, while Alex had the same abilities but could actually turn into the Crow to fly about the place and returned to life a second time (I would re-tell Jimmy's ability, but I haven't seen the fourth film...yet). While I see the need to add unique special abilities to the Crow's arsenal, it might be better to stick with the invulnerability, strength, skill and Crow Sight techniques and then, instead of having other powers, re-focus his attention towards weapons and comabt, like in the original book.

I'd like to see the hero be killed in a fire and be resurrected from the Crow cawing into a rising wind and have the hero return to life by his scattered ashes forming from the wind, might make a cool visual. I'd also like to see him apply his own make-up out of something not as cliche as "the old Crow did it" or "I was scarred this way" or "Indians use this war paint" or anything daft like that, and there should be no embarassing reference to past Crow's like in Salvation, or other characters gaining the Crow's abilities.

I'd love to see a new stand-alone Crow movie that is taken as seriously as the original, but I would hate to see that same perfect story re-told again when the Crow formula is so simple that you can tell the same basic story but with new characters and new situations which don't undermine the original film.

But what do I know, I'm just a fan.

 

[hitmanyr2k]

if your going to remake the crow
follow the graphic novel

it would be cool if the whole film was B&W
give it that Goth Noir style

I remember Brandon Lee saying in his final interview that they really wanted to shoot The Crow in B&W but due to the sh**ty realities of Hollywood they weren't given the chance.

 

[Changeling]

How about they stop looking at The Dark Knight to make movies, and make a good sequel?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I remember Brandon Lee saying in his final interview that they really wanted to shoot The Crow in B&W but due to the sh**ty realities of Hollywood they weren't given the chance.

Well to be fair, they made the movie pretty damn close to B&W considering.

 

[Hellstormer]

Yea it has a fitting washed out color palette with a lot of colors used in the flashbacks.

 

[Chris Wallace]

How about they stop looking at The Dark Knight to make movies, and make a good sequel?

THat won't happen, especially w/all the rabid Bat-fans encouraging them.

 

[hitmanyr2k]

How about they stop looking at The Dark Knight to make movies, and make a good sequel?

That's all I want as well. You're not going to make a "realistic" movie with the premise of a man (or woman) coming back from the dead and being invincible. Funny story, after the success of the first Crow Miramax asked O'Barr to right a treatment for another film. O'Barr wrote out an idea of a woman who gets gunned down on her wedding day and comes back to avenge herself and her love. Even called herself "The Bride". Miramax rejected that idea and said a female in that role would never sell and went on to do The Crow: City of Angels instead. Then years later we get a movie from the same studio with the same premise called Kill Bill lol. I know Tarantino has the story of how he came up with the idea a long time ago but I can't help but wonder.

 

[Hellstormer]

Has anyone else here watched the Stairway to Heaven series? I got it for Christmas and I absolutely love it. Its nice to have another 22 hours of good Crow storytelling. Mark Dacascos was a great choice for Eric. There's bits of him that remind me of Brandon Lee and his martial arts skills are phenomenal. I loved that way he changed up styles when he was playing an Indian in a flashback. Hard to believe someone as talented as him went on to host Iron Chef. The whole cast was really good IMO. Sarah is pretty good at just bordering that annoying line and Albrecht plays a great skeptic.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

Always thougt Cillian Murphy would be a good Crow

that's just crazy enough to work.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

That's all I want as well. You're not going to make a "realistic" movie with the premise of a man (or woman) coming back from the dead and being invincible. Funny story, after the success of the first Crow Miramax asked O'Barr to right a treatment for another film. O'Barr wrote out an idea of a woman who gets gunned down on her wedding day and comes back to avenge herself and her love. Even called herself "The Bride". Miramax rejected that idea and said a female in that role would never sell and went on to do The Crow: City of Angels instead. Then years later we get a movie from the same studio with the same premise called Kill Bill lol. I know Tarantino has the story of how he came up with the idea a long time ago but I can't help but wonder.

Thats VERY interesting if you ask me, hhhmmmm maybe Tarantino isnt as original as I thought.