The Dark Knight Rises - letdown or not?

[Bigjxxx]

It was a letdown based on many things.

1) Bane's death.

2) Batman's "death".

3) The deadpan dialogue from Batman.

4) the ending sucks.

 

[Anno_Domini]

You just described Dark Knight with the police and Bane instead of the mob and Joker.

This I would have hated so much if they go with the police hiring Bane such as how the mob hired Joker in TDK. Besides, it would be unrealistic seeing as how Gordon would have to sign off on it unless you have Gordon retired during TDKR's events and Foley or someone else is the commissioner. Doubt someone in the position of mayor would have signed off on having someone like Bane hunt down Batman, only someone in the actual police force would have done something so unconventional, but Gordon would never do this even if he's pretending Batman is Dent's killer. Besides, I feel that TDKR had to have some kind of resolution when it came to the police and Batman and the GCPD ultimately becoming Batman's army was a perfect full circle moment of the police literally backing Batman up.

guess I did. I always liked bane as a hired gun. It makes his motivations for wanting batman down real. I mean I really didn't understand why Bane really hated bruce.

It was more about what Bane was doing to honor Talia's name than anything else as Bane was the only one who could have taken Batman down before they destroy the city.

 

[BH/HHH]

It was a letdown based on many things.

1) Bane's death.

2) Batman's "death".

3) The deadpan dialogue from Batman.

4) the ending sucks.

1) I liked it, it was funny but I guess seeing Batman actually defeat him is what a lot if people really wanted and I understand that.

2) I think it was just poorly edited tbh

3) didn't really notice, care to elaborate?

4) again care to elaborate?

I'm taking it like me you wanted this film to be set straight after TDK and not be a definitive end for the Bruce Wayne character?

It was more about what Bane was doing to honor Talia's name than anything else as Bane was the only one who could have taken Batman down before they destroy the city.

Yeah I also think Bane liked the challenge that Batman presented. At the end I think he wanted to kill Batman (even though Talia) told him not too cause he wanted to get the last shot in after Batman had just kicked his butt.

 

[Anno_Domini]

I agree with that as well. It was more about the challenge of this figure that gave Gotham City hope while all along the League of Shadows tried to push the restart button on Gotham and Bane just set his sights on taking this figure down and destroy him physically and spiritually, but then he only had true hatred over Bruce when he returned and just kicked his ass. Only then did Bane really seem like he really hated Bruce and just tried to get a cheap victory by blowing a hole through Batman's skull.

 

[BH/HHH]

I agree with that as well. It was more about the challenge of this figure that gave Gotham City hope while all along the League of Shadows tried to push the restart button on Gotham and Bane just set his sights on taking this figure down and destroy him physically and spiritually, but then he only had true hatred over Bruce when he returned and just kicked his ass. Only then did Bane really seem like he really hated Bruce and just tried to get a cheap victory by blowing a hole through Batman's skull.

Agreed 100%

 

[SlamAdams]

Letdown make it sounds bad. It was disappointing but still awesome.

 

[RustyCage]

This reply wasn't addressed to me, but I thought I'd throw out my own answers since I estimate me and that user have similar feelings (except I'm not sure why he thinks the ending sucks, and I probably enjoyed a lot more of the film than he did judging by his approach to posting about it lol).

1) I liked it, it was funny but I guess seeing Batman actually defeat him is what a lot if people really wanted and I understand that.

For me, it was more the lack of a philosophical climax for the major villain. We got that with Ra's and the Joker, so I had an expectation of that being the theme of the trilogy.

Bane had little meat to work with anyway, apart from being a scary successor to Ra's mission and having a mysterious past, which was cool, but also not a lot to roll with in terms of an original, new philosophical punch, in terms of compelling moral theme, so his climax was the moment to save that disappointment from cementing itself. Alas....

Also thought Bane deserved better than to be almost comically blown away by Catwoman on the Batpod, after lowering himself to pointing a shotgun at Batman no less.

All of that combined nearly killed the buzz of that scene for me. Loved the tiny bit of extra backstory we got from Talia about him, though.

2) I think it was just poorly edited tbh

I felt it was too cliche. But I suppose whether or not you feel that way depends on how experienced you are as a watcher of various media. There are utterly countless superhero moments or anime moments in history where the character has a countdown timer on a bomb and it looks like he didn't make it, but surpriiise! Of course he's okay, silly goose!

It also is too strong a reminder of Adam West running around like a goofball in the 60's show (which I like as a separate entity, but don't like to think about in tandem with serious Batman, it's distracting, breaks the atmosphere).

'Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb!'

3) didn't really notice, care to elaborate?

He says a lot of obvious, lame things, and very few profound or intelligent things - as Batman, anyway. Bruce, oppositely, had awesome lines. I would even say Bruce was more 'Batman-like' than Batman in many important ways.

They established a fine balance of this in the last two movies, so I wasn't prepared for Batman to have so little to say - especially to Bane.

 

[RustyCage]

Letdown make it sounds bad. It was disappointing but still awesome.

Essentially, this.

 

[batfreakforever]

Letdown make it sounds bad. It was disappointing but still awesome.

It wasnt a letdown or a disappointment. It was absolute perfection.

 

[The Joker]

It wasnt a letdown or a disappointment. It was absolute perfection.

For you.

 

[batfreakforever]

For you.

Thats right. It was absolute perfection for me. As long as I love it, thats all that counts.

 

[Coca Cola Duracell Franklin.]

Yes, because I wanted to see a movie about Batman saving Gotham. What I got was a movie about Joseph Gordon Levitt arguing with Commissioner Gordon.

 

[TheGuy]

Lol

 

[The Joker]

Thats right. It was absolute perfection for me. As long as I love it, thats all that counts.

Wonderful. So why were you quoting someone else and telling them the opposite of what they were saying as though they were wrong to say it, instead of just making a post of your own saying you personally found it to be perfect?

 

[shauner111]

Thats right. It was absolute perfection for me. As long as I love it, thats all that counts.

Samesies.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Where's Fudgie these days?

 

[TheGuy]

Where's Fudgie these days?

I miss him dearly.

 

[Destructus86]

I was expecting a Batman film to have...you know...BATMAN IN IT for more than 20 mins.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Sorry if watching a film that focuses on the man behind the mask isn't your kind of thing. Guess some just prefer superficial CBMs that only shows the superhero and no arc about the guy behind the cape and cowl.

 

[BlueLightning]

I was expecting a Batman film to have...you know...BATMAN IN IT for more than 20 mins.

In retrospective, this is kind of ridiculous. Check this out.

Edit:
Also I'm betting that Batman 1966 had more Bat-Screentime than any other live action film.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Actually, I think all of those films could have used a bit more Batman in them.

I really wouldn't mind it if in the next film Batman was in it for a good 30% or so of the movie. I'd like lengthy detective work scenes and to follow Batman around a bit more. Something a bit more like the comics, where the weight is usually on Batman moreso than Bruce. It would be different.

 

[CoolCadaver49]

Check this out.

It's so cool to see the comparisons like that... Also a great reference!

 

[BlueLightning]

Thank Travesty, it's an admirable work he has done.

 

[The Joker]

The thing is TDKR not only has the longest running time, but also the shortest Batman screen time. Looking at that link, it also has the shortest number of Batman related scenes. So naturally Batman's absence is felt most of all in it.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Does anyone have a comparison of Catwoman's screen time in Batman Returns and in TDKR?