Which was the better opening TDK or TDKR?

[Boy Scout]

TDK. You can't beat The Joker.

 

[Decepticonus]

No offense to Ledger, but have Hamill come through and dub all the dialogue in TDK intro and then I'll change my vote. I would simply have to.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

That opening sequence in TDK is spectacular. One of the best of any movie ever. It is right up there with the opening of films like Raiders of the Lost Ark and Star Wars: A New Hope.

TDKR has a good James Bond-style opening and I like the interaction between Bane and Agent Littlefinger, but it simply isn't at the same level as the TDK opening.

 

[The Joker]

The Dark Knight of course. One of the best opening scenes not only to a CBM, but to any movie in general. The way it introduced the Joker was magnificent. When Ledger takes off the clown mask I still get chills.

 

[Omegabat]

TDKR, I can watch that as a separate solo scene a bunch. I am actually OK with skipping TDK intro, don't get me wrong but I love TDKR.

This,the moment Joker takes of the mask and smiles is brilliant and easily better than the moment Bane had the shroud removed by comparison. But TDKR promo gives you a 100% complete picture of what Bane is. In contrast the opening scene of TDK gives you a piece of Joker.

 

[The Joker]

This,the moment Joker takes of the mask and smiles is brilliant and easily better than the moment Bane had the shroud removed by comparison. But TDKR promo gives you a 100% complete picture of what Bane is. In contrast the opening scene of TDK gives you a piece of Joker.

If that was the case I'd argue that's another reason the TDK one is superior, since it gives you a great taste of the Joker instead of giving the whole character away from the get-go.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Um, TDK prologue also gives you a complete picture of who the Joker is. Complete with his use of lies, deception and philosophy.

Rises' prologue does not tell you all of what Bane is. As we later find out he answers to someone else.

 

[The Joker]

Um, TDK prologue also gives you a complete picture of who the Joker is. Complete with his use of lies, deception and philosophy.

Does it show you that he doesn't care about money? (if anything it would lead you to believe the opposite since he's stealing it from a bank). Does it show you he wants to break Gotham's soul? Does it show you he thinks Batman is too much fun to kill etc?

We had barely begun to know who the Joker is.

Rises' prologue does not tell you all of what Bane is. As we later find out he answers to someone else.

That's not telling you anything new about Bane as a person. It just shows the hierarchy in his gang is not what we thought it was.

 

[Val_Zod]

TDK, Bane's meme worthy voice ruined the opening of Rises for me.

 

[Mjölnir]

I agree with a previous comment that the ending of the TDK opening scene makes no sense at all, but I still think that it beats out TDKR by a slim margin. Had the getaway seemed plausible I would have liked it much more though.

 

[BH/HHH]

I agree with a previous comment that the ending of the TDK opening scene makes no sense at all, but I still think that it beats out TDKR by a slim margin. Had the getaway seemed plausible I would have liked it much more though.

That sort of stuff never really bothers me tbh, I always wonder why people get so hung up on that sort of thing. I mean if you do, you do but I just don't think I'll ever be bothered by stuff like that.

 

[Mjölnir]

That sort of stuff never really bothers me tbh, I always wonder why people get so hung up on that sort of thing. I mean if you do, you do but I just don't think I'll ever be bothered by stuff like that.

It depends on the context for me. Nolan's movies get me in a mindset for more natural consequences than something like Guardians of the Galaxy, to just pick a very differing example. It's more likely to bug me more when Gotham's police force lacks basic competence in that gritty, down to earth setting than when people act weird compared to normal people in a glossy space opera. It's not something I (or anyone else, I expect) decide to like or dislike, it's just how it hits me.

It's a good thing when we can look past the flaws though (and all movies have at least some). I certainly don't dislike the scene due to this, it's still really good. With a different ending I might have placed it higher on my list of favorite openings though (my favorite probably being Inglorious Basterds).

 

[Johnny-Oh]

TDK opening is better, but TDKR opening is a better action scene than any of the ones in TDK.

 

[Omegabat]

Um, TDK prologue also gives you a complete picture of who the Joker is. Complete with his use of lies, deception and philosophy.

Rises' prologue does not tell you all of what Bane is. As we later find out he answers to someone else.

Not really,the TDK intro just gives you a piece of the characters. As Joker pointed out it can be viewed in positive sense as well. But what I'm really trying to say is that just by watching the intro no one would know what they were dealing with. With Bane TDKR promo gives you a near total picture of what Batman is gonna deal with later on. Ok I may have exaggerated with the 100% thing as we still had yet to find out about the prison and the reason he ended up with the mask but as threats/villains TDKR captured fully the essence of Bane,TDK gives one a sample.

 

[Omegabat]

If that was the case I'd argue that's another reason the TDK one is superior, since it gives you a great taste of the Joker instead of giving the whole character away from the get-go.

In a movie vs movie comparison that would be true,but treating the intros as movies by themselves I'd say TDKR version was more fulfilling. Isn't that what the OP is asking?

 

[Elevator Man]

I enjoyed both openings/prologues for different reasons. So both are neck and neck with me.

 

[Warhammer]

What takes away from the TDKR opening is Bane's voice. It's so loud. I wish they did a better audio mix.

 

[Victarion]

TDKR. I liked the chant and Bane's scientist-heist more than the bank heist. While neither seen really gives you all there is to know about the characters, they're both adequate introductions. You meet the Joker as this guy who'll cut his own men down to get ahead, and then you meet Bane as this clever mercenary whose men follow him with a fanatic's mentality. We learn more as the movie progresses, but I liked the scope and grandeur of TDKR's opening moreso than TDK's.

 

[Duran Man]

The Dark Knight Rises without question. I became enthralled by Bane's voice the moment he speaks for the first time. It was one of my favourite scenes in the movie, maybe even my favourite scene.

 

[antonydelfini]

The Dark Knight, most definitely. The cinematography, editing, mystery, and Joker reveal in that scene is top notch. It's a classic scene IMO.

 

[BatLobster]

I love both openings. I think The Joker intro works better as a self-contained short film, whereas the Bane intro is one of the most breathtaking action sequences in the whole trilogy and really starts that movie with a bang.

Either way, when you think about it, it's pretty cool how Nolan made the prologues for these movies little events in their own right. The sizzles that would play at the end would get you unbelievably pumped for the movie, even moreso than the actual trailers IMO

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[TTKano]

The Dark Knight

 

[AnneFan]

TDK. Love it. The image of Heath standing on the corner, back turned, holding onto the clown mask is iconic to me. Great atmosphere in the whole scene, too.

That said I do like the opening to Rises.

 

[Mandon Knight]

The simple fact you have a situation where you have a CIA team NOT having checked who is coming onto their plane is just pure dumb, (i understand, you need that to propel plot forward but blimey !), equally, a bus that exits from a hole in the wall, having concrete, rubble and dust surround it, simply merges into everyday traffic.

Tough choice, but the bus wins it.

 

[samsnee]

The Dark Knight. Although I enjoyed both, they also both ended stupidly.

In TDK, a bus escapes through a hole in a bank and none of the other bus drivers notice.

In TDKR, they claim they are making the crash look like an accident yet leave bullet holes everywhere.