The Joker
The Clown Prince of Crime
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No excuse? To whom is Nolan reporting?
The people who pay to be entertained by his movie. The people who help make his movies a success. Who else is he making these movies for?
This is his story, his version of the characters. He doesn't have to follow a guideline on how to make a Batman movie. That's boring.
There is only one guideline to making a Batman movie, and that's make a Batman movie. Bruce Wayne is Bruce Wayne, Batman is Batman. When Bruce puts on the cape and cowl he is Batman. Batman is the face criminals fear. Not Bruce Wayne. To say seeing Bruce Wayne is the same as Batman screen time is a fallacy. When Peter Parker quit being Spider-Man in Spider-Man 2, that portion of the movie was not Spider-Man screen time. It was Peter Parker screen time. Same thing here. Bruce Wayne screen time does not equate to Batman screen time.
Yes, Batman was in quite a bit less than past films, but all for reasons pertaining to the plot.
And that's the problem many have with it. The plot is written to have very little Batman.
The very idea that people time the exact screen time of him suited up is kind of sad, because it seems a lot of people miss the point of what makes his character so interesting.
What makes his character so interesting? Both sides of the persona that's what. If one of them is neglected, then the character suffers. Batman Begins and The Dark Knight never wavered with balancing out the two personas. Even Batman Begins which takes nearly an hour to get Bruce into that Batman costume, but once he gets in it, he's rarely out of it for the second hour of the movie.
It's a fallacy to think that Batman is absent from much of the film, because Batman is the entire focus of the film whether he is seen or not. Screentime is arbitrary.
Batman is absent for most of the movie. Just because you see a lot of Bruce Wayne does not make that Batman screen time. Batman is Bruce Wayne in the costume. If just Bruce Wayne could be Batman he wouldn't need to wear a costume. The point of Batman is he is an image and a symbol. Bruce Wayne is not that. Once he's in the costume he is Batman. I mean by your logic we could have a 2 hour Batman movie with 5 minutes of Batman on screen, but lots of Bruce Wayne, and that would make a plentiful Batman movie.
Take a wild guess how many people would feel the same way.
"As Bruce Wayne I'm flesh and blood. I can be ignored. I can be destroyed" - there's your line right there which spells out the difference between Batman and Bruce Wayne.
It's what they choose to show. Batman is more than a suit. Batman becomes a legend that lives beyond Bruce in this film. He inspires a city to stand against evil. That's Batman.
Batman didn't inspire the city to stand against evil. The only people who stand against evil are the Cops, and that's their job. The rest of Gotham seemed to be cowering like frightened sheep. They played no part in the saving of Gotham. That's one of the problems with TDKR. It neglected to give the perspective of the people of Gotham on the situation like in Begins in and TDK. In TDK the people on the ferries chose not to blow each other up. They proved Joker wrong. It had nothing to do with Batman. In Batman Begins they were being used as tools for their own destruction by being dosed with fear toxin and then tear each other apart.
In Rises they didn't do a thing in the climax.
It's sad that people don't see that.
Well you can't see something that's not there in the first place.
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