The Dark Knight Rises - letdown or not?

Was TDKR a letdown for you?

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Let me down, but that could be down to me having far too high expectations for it.


Same here. I saw it once in the theatre and was expecting a great movie. Instead I saw a mediocre movie. I'm gonna get it on DVD and watch the trilogy at some point to see if I change my mind.
 
I was let down because it was too long and not very exciting. But they made great points with how wrong Bruce had been and it had a great ending. Yes, there are many other plot points that are flawed by I just found the movie a drag.
 
Same here. I saw it once in the theatre and was expecting a great movie. Instead I saw a mediocre movie. I'm gonna get it on DVD and watch the trilogy at some point to see if I change my mind.

Yeah i've got the trilogy coming aswell, I dunno from the trailers and that we saw I thought well if thats what they're showing in trailers just think what they aren't showing us, and imo the best parts of the movie was basically shown in trailers!
 
I've watched BB and TDK often over the past several years.

I watched TDKR once, and have zero desire to watch it again in its entirety.
 
I loved it. I thought it was a great way to finish off the series. I was not let down at all.
 
Indeed. Imo, it's a fantastic and very satisfying conclusion. Sure, I can see how people expected more, but for what the film does have, I definitely love it.
 
Ditto. Except I only saw it once

I actually did see this one twice. First was in a normal theater then again on IMAX with my friends. Still made the same conclusions. I only have Batman Begins on DVD. When you've watched it on IMAX what's the point afterwards?
 
Let me down, but that could be down to me having far too high expectations for it.

I think this was my main disappointment with the film as well. I wasn't overall disappointed necessarily, but I also wasn't blown away like with TDK. I think it comes down to it not being exactly what I thought it would be.

And I wondered a bit if it suffered from Spider Man 3 syndrome, too. Parts of the plot development felt a bit rushed...
 
I expected something to hate
It didn't let me down
 
Not a huge letdown for me, and I say that from the perspective of someone who isn't a fan of the previous entries in the trilogy, but a letdown nonetheless. Regardless, from the trailers, additions to the cast(JGL, Cotillard, Hardy, Hathaway) and synopsis, I was looking forward to it being better than what it was. I'll echo the sentiment of Bren several posts above, in that it was strangely boring and severely lacking in the entertainment department. If anything, it gave me something of an appreciation for the prior films, as they were both much more coherent narratives.
 
I expected something to hate
It didn't let me down

Something to hate? Is it because of the threequel curse for CBMs?

Not a huge letdown for me, and I say that from the perspective of someone who isn't a fan of the previous entries in the trilogy, but a letdown nonetheless. Regardless, from the trailers, additions to the cast(JGL, Cotillard, Hardy, Hathaway) and synopsis, I was looking forward to it being better than what it was. I'll echo the sentiment of Bren several posts above, in that it was strangely boring and severely lacking in the entertainment department. If anything, it gave me something of an appreciation for the prior films, as they were both much more coherent narratives.

If you weren't a fan of the previous films in the trilogy, then TDKR being a letdown for you doesn't seem surprising, lol.
 
Shumacher's were a modern Adam West, all about fun, toys and humor. The reboot will be like a modern, more comic-accurate, serious narrative take on Burtons style. Batman on missions, in the shadows, while freakish villains are explored. Nolans didn't let me down (especially Rises overall) because it focused on the psychology of Bruce Wayne first then the human side of the villains.


Now just talking about the ending here..
It's a satisfying conclusion on many levels. For Bruce first and foremost. The ending to his journey is satisfying in the sense that if you love the character (especially in this series)....you want to see him happy. Which is something we never get in any other medium. They never give Wayne peace of mind because the "issues" have to keep comin' out. BUT at the same time, you want that symbol of Batman to live on and not be abandoned because we're all still Batman fans. We all want to see Batman never die.

I think what Nolan was trying to achieve at the end was bold but not out of line with what the comics are. And that's the point that people are missing. There's 2 things that Nolan did that comics always threaten to do but never do , simply because the comic world goes on forever, monthly. It's something that will never happen again on film mark my words, but Nolan was brave enough to try it out.

Those 2 things are Batman/Bruce Wayne retiring in peace, to find love, to move on from Gothams problems. To NEVER return in the cowl. And secondly to permanently pass the mantle off to a successor. But they can never follow through with that one. That should be the whole point behind the training of these "Robins" and Nightwing too. I understand the motivation behind Grayson, Todd or Drake starting out as the side-kick, it gives them purpose, a right path, and a balance for Bruce...but they do grow older and Dick becomes a vigilante on his own. The threats don't rise to the point where Gotham NEEDS several heroes to watch over the damn place, they're just there for the sake of it.

Logically Batman would be able to hang it up and forever hand it off to a Terry McGinnis, Dick Grayson or a John Blake. THIS is what Nolan finally gave the people. Even if a chunk of those people dont want it.

An ending like that will forever be exclusive to this trilogy....and that's a massive reason as to why TDKR did NOT let me down what so ever. They didnt repeat the typical comic book movie formula that every sequel seems to dive into.
 
If you weren't a fan of the previous films in the trilogy, then TDKR being a letdown for you doesn't seem surprising, lol.

Perhaps, but I will say that I've always approached the movies with an open mind, especially since Nolan is one of my favorite filmmakers and he always employs such a strong cast. Time and time again; however, his interpretation of Batman just didn't do it for me. Aside from TDKR, I can't say that they're bad films; they're most certainly very well made in nearly every regard, I just didn't find them entertaining, among a few other gripes.
 
It's because of the armored rugby field, it looked bad, expected more bad from the film

Really? You thought it looked back? I thought it did as well, but only in certain trailers. Once I saw it in theatres, I felt that the CGI was fixed where it didn't look ridiculous anymore.

Shumacher's were a modern Adam West, all about fun, toys and humor. The reboot will be like a modern, more comic-accurate, serious narrative take on Burtons style. Batman on missions, in the shadows, while freakish villains are explored. Nolans didn't let me down (especially Rises overall) because it focused on the psychology of Bruce Wayne first then the human side of the villains.


Now just talking about the ending here..
It's a satisfying conclusion on many levels. For Bruce first and foremost. The ending to his journey is satisfying in the sense that if you love the character (especially in this series)....you want to see him happy. Which is something we never get in any other medium. They never give Wayne peace of mind because the "issues" have to keep comin' out. BUT at the same time, you want that symbol of Batman to live on and not be abandoned because we're all still Batman fans. We all want to see Batman never die.

I think what Nolan was trying to achieve at the end was bold but not out of line with what the comics are. And that's the point that people are missing. There's 2 things that Nolan did that comics always threaten to do but never do , simply because the comic world goes on forever, monthly. It's something that will never happen again on film mark my words, but Nolan was brave enough to try it out.

Those 2 things are Batman/Bruce Wayne retiring in peace, to find love, to move on from Gothams problems. To NEVER return in the cowl. And secondly to permanently pass the mantle off to a successor. But they can never follow through with that one. That should be the whole point behind the training of these "Robins" and Nightwing too. I understand the motivation behind Grayson, Todd or Drake starting out as the side-kick, it gives them purpose, a right path, and a balance for Bruce...but they do grow older and Dick becomes a vigilante on his own. The threats don't rise to the point where Gotham NEEDS several heroes to watch over the damn place, they're just there for the sake of it.

Logically Batman would be able to hang it up and forever hand it off to a Terry McGinnis, Dick Grayson or a John Blake. THIS is what Nolan finally gave the people. Even if a chunk of those people dont want it.

An ending like that will forever be exclusive to this trilogy....and that's a massive reason as to why TDKR did NOT let me down what so ever. They didnt repeat the typical comic book movie formula that every sequel seems to dive into.

Indeed. The conclusion of Bruce Wayne's story and the legend of the Batman that he created made TDKR simply impressive. Let alone, while I understand the complaints of the lack of Gotham City's voice/soul, I can see how it wasn't shown as this was basically a character piece for closure with Bruce Wayne.

Perhaps, but I will say that I've always approached the movies with an open mind, especially since Nolan is one of my favorite filmmakers and he always employs such a strong cast. Time and time again; however, his interpretation of Batman just didn't do it for me. Aside from TDKR, I can't say that they're bad films; they're most certainly very well made in nearly every regard, I just didn't find them entertaining, among a few other gripes.

So you found BB and TDK entertaining, but not TDKR and you found all three films bad Batman films?
 
"Anyone can be Batman" ? I found that line absurd. Bruce Wayne is Batman. His experiences and psyche shape what Batman is.
I liked TDKR much more than TDK (about the same as BB), but that one point bugs me too.

If someone other than Bruce Wayne can be Batman, what is so special about Batman? I feel the same way about Hal Jordan being replaced as a Green Lantern or War Machine in the Iron Man comics.

These characters are supposed to be special human beings....having someone else "take up the mantle" with no loss of ability makes them not special at all.
 
Really? You thought it looked bad? I thought it did as well, but only in certain trailers. Once I saw it in theatres, I felt that the CGI was fixed where it didn't look ridiculous anymore.
I saw it, I liked it
 
I liked TDKR much more than TDK (about the same as BB), but that one point bugs me too.

If someone other than Bruce Wayne can be Batman, what is so special about Batman?
Batman became the symbol that he was meant for. To inspire good and make the people of Gotham understand their city doesn't belong to the corrupt. We saw that when the police took back Gotham. As explained by some posters before, Blake taking up the mantle doesn't necessarily mean he goes crime fighting right ahead. He's just there in case things go out of hand. Alfred said this outright in TDK, that Batman is the outcast who makes the choices no one else can make.
 
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Agreed. TDK was a fully realized movie.

TDKR just had too much scripting issues to be considered superior. Tons of obvious plotholes as well.

Talia was poorly handled. The characterization of Bruce Wayne wasn't stellar either. He was 'retired' for 8 years, comes back for a few days, and then gives it all up and retires again?

"Anyone can be Batman" ? I found that line absurd. Bruce Wayne is Batman. His experiences and psyche shape what Batman is.

I found John Blake to be a complete throwaway and pointless character. It was basically Nolan trying to shoehorn JGL into this film. I don't logically buy Blake as someone with the resources and training to take up the mantle.

I thought the relationship between Bruce and Selina was half-assed too. This was the one thing Batman Returns did so much better than TDKR. I didn't buy that Bruce would go off with this woman. They barely knew each other and hardly connected.

Bane and Talia's motivations could have been better too. Their entire plan of giving Gotham hope and then just blowing it all up seemed rather cartoony. All it did was buy time for Batman and Gordon to stop them.


This almost completely sums up my opinion as well. The plot holes in TDK were little cracks compared to the plot holes in Rises. I didn't totally hate the movie but it definitely wasn't my fave. Also, not mentioning anything about the Joker even though they kept referencing the events of 8 years ago was a complete copout!
 
That's a shame about Nolan not wanting to spread the story out over 2 films. It has amazed me through this whole trilogy how much leeway WB has given to this director over a character that they own,lol!
 
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Perhaps, but I will say that I've always approached the movies with an open mind, especially since Nolan is one of my favorite filmmakers and he always employs such a strong cast. Time and time again; however, his interpretation of Batman just didn't do it for me. Aside from TDKR, I can't say that they're bad films; they're most certainly very well made in nearly every regard, I just didn't find them entertaining, among a few other gripes.


I feel the same way except for him being one of my favorite filmmakers. I just find his movies to be too pretentious. He does however employ good casts. I don't like Christian Bale at all and his Bruce and Batman are only a notch above Clooney's for me.:cwink:
 
i love tdkr because it is the best movie when it pertains to the character of bruce wayne christian bale really got to shine and had a great character arc
 
That's a shame about Nolan not wanting to spread the story out over 2 films. It has amazed me through this whole trilogy how much leeway WB has given to this director over a character that they own,lol!

When a studio takes over....when a studio takes over....

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And THAT'S why Warner Brothers gave Nolan pretty much all control over his Batman trilogy.
 
I feel the same way except for him being one of my favorite filmmakers. I just find his movies to be too pretentious. He does however employ good casts. I don't like Christian Bale at all and his Bruce and Batman are only a notch above Clooney's for me.:cwink:
LOL yeaaah that better be a joke.
 

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