The Disney owns Fox thread

[Dark Raven]

We may be laughing at her soon as they get ready to abandon Shipp.

 

[Hurm...]

This is sarcasm right? Please tell me it is because if it isn't this is the problem. This is the stuff that brings down our freedoms. And not, "The government won't take away my right and freedom to conduct business." It's about creating accountability within that freedom. Look, I support competition and a free market in theory, however, it's not so free when it's not equal.

I'm not being hyperbolic here. It begins with the thought of, "Well it's not my problem... now leave me alone while I enjoy this thing that gives me joy." While these people take over our freedoms. They're not doing something like taking us to concentration camps, but that's the point. These people take over our lives in ways that we don't notice as much, only if we don't pay attention when in actuality, they're there. We can't control what conglomerates buy and don't buy, but that doesn't mean we can't take an active role in opposing it and being scared by it. Like this Net Neutrality repeal.

1984 had it right. These are deeper ideas. These things don't normally happen so out in the open. It's not on a street corner we can pick out and identify as proof with our eyes. It's the idea of it and the idea of it and not identifying it or seeing the problem and choosing not to acknowledge it is just as dangerous. It's the same type of thinking that leads to the bystander effect. It begins where we believe something won't happen. Then when it happens, it's still unbelievable and there's no way it can be that, it sounds like something in a story! And when it happens, it'll already be too late. Reality has far outstripped fiction. This is why critical thinking and skepticism of authority is so important.

I really think people are looking at this from such a narrow lens. It takes a lot for folks to develop foresight and understand corporate hegemony. It's much more prevailing than people realize, hence people not giving a **** about the real-world implications of this deal since they get to see Wolverine in the Avengers one day.

 

[Iceman]

I really think people are looking at this from such a narrow lens. It takes a lot for folks to develop foresight and understand corporate hegemony. It's much more prevailing than people realize, hence people not giving a **** about the real-world implications of this deal since they get to see Wolverine in the Avengers one day.

No it's people not realising that this Fox sale of assets was happening regardless due to the will of the Murdochs to streamline their company.

 

[CB Fan]

Lol she thinks just cause she’s contracted for more films that she’s not going anywhere. She should phone up Terrance Howard and Edward Norton...

 

[Dark Raven]

Loose lips sink Shipps.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Yeah there's no way that Feige doesn't reboot the X-Men.

 

[kguillou]

I really really hope Dark Phoenix is a self contained story and not a 2 parter like the rumors say because otherwise..boy would that be an awkward note to end on.

 

[rashad]

Perfect meme!

 

[childeroland]

How long will it take the merger to happen if the administration doesn't challenge it in court?

 

[psylockolussus]

Loose lips sink Shipps.

I don't really like Alexandra Shipp and her tweet just gave me another reason.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I really think people are looking at this from such a narrow lens. It takes a lot for folks to develop foresight and understand corporate hegemony. It's much more prevailing than people realize, hence people not giving a **** about the real-world implications of this deal since they get to see Wolverine in the Avengers one day.

I get this is a superhero forum, but for God's sake, you'd think there are things that mean more than seeing some goddamn movies?

And these people are adults. I sometimes think a lot of people are here teenagers, but for this, even if you're 15, now's the perfect time to get to know what anti-trust laws and the dangers of conglomeration are all about. If schools are willing to teach that, given the times we live in now, I expect kids to be growing up a bit more in terms of their knowledge of the world because they need to.

 

[Ninjablade]

We may be laughing at her soon as they get ready to abandon Shipp.

Loose lips sink Shipps.

 

[Neno_Kos]

Isn't it ironic that biggest Hollywood studio empire, Disney is owning Star Wars which talks about fall off Galatic Empire and rebellion against it because they wanted to control everything.

 

[Herofan]

So for all those who didn't want the Disney-Fox merger and having all the characters back under one roof: on the flip side, would you have been okay if the X-Men were split up across different studios instead? Say some like Wolverine, Beast, Nightcrawler and others at Universal, Cyclops, Iceman, Storm and Shadowcat at Disney and Jean Grey, Angel, and Magneto at WB?

Of course it's a hypothetical situation, but it's demonstrating the point that having characters all over the place instead of under one roof is frustrating.

A lot of them wouldn't be made, in part because of not being able to put in other characters, but the more popular ones could be and could work pretty well.
I think the MCU now is a little too big and Way too crossover-y so more crossovers seem a negative. And the X-Men arguably work better/make more sense on their own, without other heroes with powers being popular and generally ignoring or fighting them.

 

[Lencho01]

Well, it looks like some fans went after her once the news of the deal being done came out.

 

[Neno_Kos]

A lot of them wouldn't be made, in part because of not being able to put in other characters, but the more popular ones could be and could work pretty well.
I think the MCU now is a little too big and Way too crossover-y so more crossovers seem a negative. And the X-Men arguably work better/make more sense on their own, without other heroes with powers being popular and generally ignoring or fighting them.

I never understood why everyone hated mutants but loved spider-man and other superpowered heroes etc. never made any damn sense. and now we will have that situation in MCU.

I know there are some "logic" reasons why would they , but I found them silly given majority of humans dont know from where each hero got his powers amd didnt know them personally to learn and distinguish them.

 

[terry78]

Mutants are viewed as a whole different race that could potentially overtake us normals, and they've had extremists in their groups that would be happy to do so. I think with everyone else that got their powers via science they kinda make it known that's how it happened.

 

[Mysteryman]

Lol she thinks just cause she’s contracted for more films that she’s not going anywhere. She should phone up Terrance Howard and Edward Norton...

Slight difference.
Norton wanted more creative control, Howard wanted more money.
Those two made waves.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

No shade but...I hope they do recast all of them.

Starting with her.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

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Yeah there's no way that Feige doesn't reboot the X-Men.

Absolutely. I don't see them bringing any of that over to the MCU. Why would they? It'd be confusing to the audiences and I think they know that most fans aren't exactly thrilled with most of the current X-Men casting any way.

Personally I'm not trying to see JLaw/Mystique mixing it up with Black Widow.

 

[TheVileOne]

What if Iger and Horn want Lawrence to stay on as Mystique? She is one of the biggest stars in town.

 

[Frankeh]

What if Iger and Horn want Lawrence to stay on as Mystique? She is one of the biggest stars in town.

Recast in another Marvel role (Sue Storm ). I bet she would've been Captain Marvel if it weren't for Mystique. She did say she'd like to be in GOTG. Idk she didn't work for me neither as a hero nor as a villain in the X-Movies so... not looking forward to it.

Anyway, I don't see a way Marvel Studios will ruin their carefully built continuity by bringing in the entire Foxverse. The Foxverse in and of itself is already a mess lol.

 

[childeroland]

Will Lawrence want to?

 

[Dark Raven]

What if Iger and Horn want Lawrence to stay on as Mystique? She is one of the biggest stars in town.

I don't want her to become the star of the MCU as well and Mystique one of the main characters. It's not doing the X-Men the right way but just importing all the problems from Fox to a new owner.

 

[TheVileOne]

I don't want her to become the star of the MCU as well and Mystique one of the main characters. It's not doing the X-Men the right way but just importing all the problems from Fox to a new owner.

I agree, but for example, when EON rebooted James Bond, they kept Judi Dench as M. Even though it was a new franchise and a new Bond. New universe basically. You can't even go the codename route because Craig's character, his real name is Bond.