The Disney owns Fox thread

[mclay18]

Ok thanks. Hopefully they do something like this for R rated stuff going forward then.

They'll likely keep the Fox label just for that.

Touchstone was primarily used for releasing the DreamWorks films Disney released under their deal, like Fright Night and Lincoln. It hasn't been utilized for an adult-themed Disney film since 2009's The Proposal.

 

[Iceman]

They'll likely keep the Fox label just for that.

Touchstone was primarily used for releasing the DreamWorks films Disney released under their deal, like Fright Night and Lincoln. It hasn't been utilized for an adult-themed Disney film since 2009's The Proposal.

Can they use the 21CF label even though the rest of Fox will still be continuing as a news/sports focused company? That would be ideal as from a nostalgia point of view too, it would be a shame to lose that great intro ahead of films.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

After movies like Deadpool and Logan made a lot of money, why wouldn't Disney continue making those kind of movies under the FOX banner?

 

[psylockolussus]

I hope they could include the Fox logo in Wreck It Ralph2!

 

[mclay18]

Can they use the 21CF label even though the rest of Fox will still be continuing as a news/sports focused company? That would be ideal as from a nostalgia point of view too, it would be a shame to lose that great intro ahead of films.

The news/sports-focused company will be dubbed New Fox. My understanding is that Disney will own the 21CF film trademark, logo, fanfare, and copyright in addition to the film/TV catalog.

I think Bob Iger is going to insist that Disney keep Fox as their own label, akin to Pixar, Marvel, and Lucasfilm. Which means that a good amount of Fox employees will lose their jobs as the Mouse House downsizes and reduces the overall output. I wouldn't be surprised if the 13-15 film output Fox has now will be cut to 6-8, maybe 4 a year once Disney integrates everything.

 

[Iceman]

The news/sports-focused company will be dubbed New Fox. My understanding is that Disney will own the 21CF film trademark, logo, fanfare, and copyright in addition to the film/TV catalog.

I think Bob Iger is going to insist that Disney keep Fox as their own label, akin to Pixar, Marvel, and Lucasfilm. Which means that a good amount of Fox employees will lose their jobs as the Mouse House downsizes and reduces the overall output. I wouldn't be surprised if the 13-15 film output Fox has now will be cut to 6-8, maybe 4 a year once Disney integrates everything.

It’s good that the 21CF can live on but it’s a shame that overall production would be cut back so much.

 

[samsnee]

Makes sense. Why cannibalize yourself?

 

[mclay18]

It’s good that the 21CF can live on but it’s a shame that overall production would be cut back so much.

A lot of Fox's smaller titles will likely be parceled out to other distributors once the deal is finalized like several Miramax titles were in 2011. The Debt was released by Focus Features, Don't Be Afraid of the Dark by FilmDistrict, and Gnomeo & Juliet by Disney's Touchstone Pictures.

 

[Iceman]

A lot of Fox's smaller titles will likely be parceled out to other distributors once the deal is finalized like several Miramax titles were in 2011. The Debt was released by Focus Features, Don't Be Afraid of the Dark by FilmDistrict, and Gnomeo & Juliet by Disney's Touchstone Pictures.

Oh right, cool. That sounds a bit better then.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

So pretty dumb idea really, but does this mean Disney could let FOX distribute future SW films so we could get the fanfare back?

 

[Drizzle]

So pretty dumb idea really, but does this mean Disney could let FOX distribute future SW films so we could get the fanfare back?

Not gonna happen, but considering how Disney and Lucasfilm have put all future Star Wars standalone movies on hold, distribution rights are the least of their problems right now.

 

[Iceman]

So pretty dumb idea really, but does this mean Disney could let FOX distribute future SW films so we could get the fanfare back?

It is going to feel so different without that.

 

[psylockolussus]

It’s good that the 21CF can live on but it’s a shame that overall production would be cut back so much.

I watch a lot of Fox movies annually, and I think it'd be much better if they just release
8-10 films per year. Majority of the films released of Disney in the last 3 years got a fresh rt rating. That can't be said to Fox who have milked their cash cows to their last milk like Ice Age, Die Hard and Alvin and the Chipmunks, that critics hated the last film of those franchises and no one is really asking for another sequel. While Maze Runner quickly lost steam. Even Kingsman, the X-Men (Apocalypse), Independence Day didn't even get good reviews and didn't perform better at the box office compare to predecessor. Planet of the Apes oddly underperformed at the box office last year. Then there's Red Sparrow, Assassin's Creed and those other films that weren't very successful either from reviews or at the box office. I'm hoping there would be quality control in the new Fox and I'm fine if we get fewer films if it means better films.

 

[Lead Cenobite]

Which studios had the R rated content?

Miramax was an actual studio Disney owned which was allowed to operate autonomously and released many R-rated films, including several Tarantino movies. And Miramax had the Dimension label through which they released the Halloween, Scream, and Hellraiser movies.

 

[dark_b]

https://www.slashfilm.com/disney-fox-merger-family-friendly-projects/
Say Goodbye to Non-Family Friendly Fox Movies
The ones who you can expect to make it out of this merger unscathed are the franchises. Disney will certainly take over Fox’s biggest film franchises, Avatar and X-Men, “and scale back production of costly movies that don’t fit its family-friendly, franchise-focused formula,” WSJ writes.
But what about everything else? Well, you can probably expect upcoming projects like the Call of the Wild adaptation and a live-action film described as “Game of Thrones with mice” to hit the screen, because they’re in line with Disney’s franchise-first formula. But mid-budget historical dramas about competing Ferrari and Ford auto designers in the 1960s? Young-adult horror movies? Forget about it.

 

[Greens]

Pretty much what we were afraid of.

 

[Teelie]

Not that I take much stock in the promises of studio bosses but Disney's previously claimed they were going to let Fox be mostly autonomous and not make drastic changes.

It would be unfortunate if they killed off the R-rated and "nonfamily-friendly" movies and franchises because they want to present a family-friendly image and stifle what creativity Fox might otherwise produce outside that genre.

 

[Greens]

What's the point, even? Who doesn't know Disney and what they traditionally stand for? They don't need hardcore profiling like that in 2018. Nobody is going to lose sleep over R-rated movies being produced by Fox. Most people probably won't even know or care that Fox is part of Disney now. Just seems like a lose-scenario for audiences. Hopefully the creatives who would normally have produced their work at Fox can do it elsewhere.

 

[Gold Samurai]

What will happen to deadpool?

 

[Man in the Suit]

But guys, Iron Man gets to quip with Wolverine now!

 

[Teelie]

This is the cost of all those fanboys getting what they wanted.

 

[Abudefduf]

Well no, not really... it's the cost of Murdoch deciding to sell 20th Century Fox.

 

[Teelie]

And then Disney bought it which all those fans cheered on. Now Fox is going to get neutered but hey, X-Men is now part of the MCU so totally worth it to no longer have competition that actually produces R-rated films.

 

[psylockolussus]

Its totally fine to me! The X-Men matter to me the most! X!

 

[Marvel united]

I don't really care about the other films. I agree with Psy