The FACEBOOK Thread

[Hotwire]

The kid who got busted in the article was an idiot for
1. Posting pictures of himself doing something illegal on the internet
2. Accepting a friend request from someone they don't know on Facebook. Seriously, this ain't Myspace. You're only supposed to have people you've actually met on Facebook.

At the same time, I'm surprised the police actually bothered to bust him like that. It's one thing to break up a party, catch someone drunk, or catch someone in the act of drinking. But I never for one moment suspected the police would bother to find a local teenager online just to sift through their Facebook photos for proof of underage drinking.

By the way, even though I'm 25, I'm all for lowering the legal drinking age to 18 or 19. At the very least, I think people between the ages of 18 and 20 should be allowed to drink in their own homes-- so long as they don't leave the house, of course.

However, research has shown the even a large number of people over the legal drinking age, 21-25 I think, are not mature enough to handle the effects of alcohol.

This is pretty low to do...but thinking about it...whatever. Although it does remind me of this...

On the Alien Ant Farm dvd Busted...it clearly shows Tye (bass player) holding up some bags with 'white stuff' in it. Dryden (lead singer) proceeds to do hits through his nose. It's clearly assumed to be 'Coke'. And it has the date on the camera. 1998 I believe. You'd think since this dvd is over 3 years old and it shows coke/weed use....the band would get in trouble. Although I'm sure law enforcement would get tire of male nudity on the documentary and forget about the drugs.

So the video was 8 years old when the DVD was released, and now it's 11 years old. Probably exceeds the statute of limitations.

This dad. I've already taught my daughters what the term "Straight Edge" means.

Hey, i didn't know C.M. Punk posted on these boards!

 

[Metamorpho1977]

Next thing you know, they will be knocking on your door asking where the Jews are hiding because there's a guy in the pic wearing a yarmulke.

 

[SuperFerret]

Yeah, because that's exactly the same.

 

[terry78]

Next thing you know, they will be knocking on your door asking where the Jews are hiding because there's a guy in the pic wearing a yarmulke.

They'll know where they are. In the office of the company that owns the internet.

 

[Metamorpho1977]

Yeah, because that's exactly the same.

yeah it is. or not far from it.

 

[Manic]

However, research has shown the even a large number of people over the legal drinking age, 21-25 I think, are not mature enough to handle the effects of alcohol.

It could be argued that people who start drinking take a while before they learn to be completely responsible. Put the drinking age at 21, and you'll notice a learning curve in people's early-20s. Other countries put their drinking ages at around 18-20; how are their statistics?

 

[Majic Walrus]

There must be an unbelievable lack of crime in wisconsin so trained police officers aren't needed patroling the streets or handling more serious online crime.

Yep and that's the way it is man. In Wisconsin the cops just set around on Facebook.

 

[CELTICPRED]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I live in Wisconsin, and I've gotten 3 or so random FRs in the last 2 months. Never had anything like that in the last 4 years, wonder if they're connected.

 

[Hotwire]

It could be argued that people who start drinking take a while before they learn to be completely responsible. Put the drinking age at 21, and you'll notice a learning curve in people's early-20s. Other countries put their drinking ages at around 18-20; how are their statistics?

The study actual had little to do with the alcohol itself, but rather the mental development of people under the age of 25.

 

[Hotwire]

yeah it is. or not far from it.

The biggest difference here is the cops are looking for evidence of illegal activity. I'd also wager that the people they were sending these friend requests to were suspected of crimes already. So, if you are a law abiding citizen, you'd have nothing to worry about. Were I loose sympathy for the idiot who got busted is that he posted pictures of himself breaking the law on a public website. It would be no different than if someone under 21 posted pics of themselves drinking in or Photo Album thread.

 

[mrvlknight21]

yeah it is. or not far from it.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

I'm totally against this, if you're busting a party that's fine to ticket the kids. However, busting them how many days, weeks or months later for a crime that can't actually proved happened. Holding a beer is not drinking a beer. Maybe the kid did slip up and admit it, but do we really need to question a kid about underage drinking? It is a total waste of resources, the cop has to find the kid, send the friend request, see the pics, sure that would take much time at all. However, then there's the arresting or ticketing process, sending this kid to court, wasting the court's time, all for what a $150-200 fine?

The underage drinking laws are ridiculous anyway, all it does is add to the stupidity of kids getting drunk because they're doing something bad. Especially when it's on a college campus, since more often than not the kids aren't going to be driving since it'll be a dorm party or off campus house close enough to walk to. I don't think I ever drove or got a ride to a party when I was in college, since it was so much easier to just walk.

That said, I do think kid's these days are too stupid to be using things like Facebook and Twitter because they feel the need to broadcast every single bit of their life on the 'net.

 

[Majic Walrus]

I'm totally against this, if you're busting a party that's fine to ticket the kids. However, busting them how many days, weeks or months later for a crime that can't actually proved happened. Holding a beer is not drinking a beer. Maybe the kid did slip up and admit it, but do we really need to question a kid about underage drinking? It is a total waste of resources, the cop has to find the kid, send the friend request, see the pics, sure that would take much time at all. However, then there's the arresting or ticketing process, sending this kid to court, wasting the court's time, all for what a $150-200 fine?

The underage drinking laws are ridiculous anyway, all it does is add to the stupidity of kids getting drunk because they're doing something bad. Especially when it's on a college campus, since more often than not the kids aren't going to be driving since it'll be a dorm party or off campus house close enough to walk to. I don't think I ever drove or got a ride to a party when I was in college, since it was so much easier to just walk.

That said, I do think kid's these days are too stupid to be using things like Facebook and Twitter because they feel the need to broadcast every single bit of their life on the 'net.

I don't necessarily personally agree with the national drinking age, however that being said:

You said all for what a fine? No not at all. The fine is simply the handn of the law, the law is the reason that you ticket the kid. He did something illegal. When your job is to enforce the law.... well you see my point I think.

 

[Addendum]

This dad. I've already taught my daughters what the term "Straight Edge" means.

Because nothing says "i love you" like forcing one's kids to believe what the parent/s do

 

[amazingfantasy15]

I don't necessarily personally agree with the national drinking age, however that being said:

You said all for what a fine? No not at all. The fine is simply the handn of the law, the law is the reason that you ticket the kid. He did something illegal. When your job is to enforce the law.... well you see my point I think.

Well then why aren't people always getting busted for jaywalking? They're breaking the law, they should be ticketed and taught a lesson about breaking laws.

 

[Majic Walrus]

Well then why aren't people always getting busted for jaywalking? They're breaking the law, they should be ticketed and taught a lesson about breaking laws.

They are, but comparing underage drinking to traffic offenses is apples to oranges. I will spend more time trying to stop an underage drinker than even a speeder. And obviously not all traffic offenders are cited and not every underage drinker is.

 

[Metamorpho1977]

just wait, first random facebook friends, then gestapo kicking the door down.

 

[mrvlknight21]

Next thing you know, they will be knocking on your door asking where the Jews are hiding because there's a guy in the pic wearing a yarmulke.

just wait, first random facebook friends, then gestapo kicking the door down.

Yeah, but come on...did you write the first post above just for effect or do you really believe that?
Keep in mind you are comparing Nazi Germany/holocuast stuff to catching underage folks drinking.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

They are, but comparing underage drinking to traffic offenses is apples to oranges. I will spend more time trying to stop an underage drinker than even a speeder. And obviously not all traffic offenders are cited and not every underage drinker is.

Well, then we've just got different priorities, I'd always try to stop the speeder than the underage drinker. Especially trying to catch him or her days, weeks or months after the fact on Facebook.

 

[CelticPredator]

This dad. I've already taught my daughters what the term "Straight Edge" means.

As for the article, it seems a little odd that the cops don't have bigger priorities than searching Facebook for crimes but I have no sympathy for the kids that get caught.

Your kids are going to have the ****tiest life. I'm not one to judge parenting skills, but man...way to shelter the **** out of your kids.

They WONT have a good High School run.

 

[C. Lee]

Your kids are going to have the ****tiest life. I'm not one to judge parenting skills, but man...way to shelter the **** out of your kids.

They WONT have a good High School run.

I never drank....and I had a great time in high school. I can have fun without having to take mind altering chemicals.

 

[CelticPredator]

Did you choose that? Or did your parents make you?

If you chose that, then thats all good man. Your parents laid out the rules, and you did your own thing.

My parents told me everything. The pros, the cons, the dangers. I did my own research, I dont drink, but I smoke sometimes.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Hmmm. If the police knocked on my door and said I was under arrest or gave me a fine for drinking by looking at month old Facebook pics I'd tell them to go take a running jump.

Seriously...looking through complete strangers pictures is not only imposing on privacy, but it's creepy. Cops shouldn't be allowed to do that or be able to use it as evidence.

Actually I'd bring out the peedo card.

"What you looking at my pics for? You like little boys or something?"

If they are allowed to do this, what's next? Fiber optic cameras in random peoples homes without warrants looking for crimes?

 

[CelticPredator]

Welp. If that happens, I better get out my Victory Gin for the Hate Week.

 

[CrashNburn]

moral of the story is if you're gonna drink under age dont take pictures! I would never take a pic of me killing someone...not that I have ever killed anyone or ever would. lol