The First Batch of Oscar Predictions

Crook said:
I have no doubt those 2 deliver on their roles, but were they memorable and iconic in the way Ledger's is? Should that not be taken into consideration when judging which actor surpasses the competition?
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Seems like it's the primary reason you think he should win it.


:thing: :doom: :thing:
 
No. I've mentioned the iconic status, simply because it already adds to an impressive performance for a supporting role. Coupled with the immense acclaim he's garnered from critics alike, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that it's unlikely any remaining performance for this year could match up to that level.
 
On the Best Supporting Actor side? Considering they haven't been released, obviously not. Taking into account the media coverage and hoopla over Ledger/Joker, are you honestly gonna contend that it's even probable a role would reach such high word-of-mouth?
 
No, I'm saying that now you're just arguing for no damn reason. What I just said isn't likely to be proven wrong, and looking at the tremendous circumstances surrounding Ledger's situation, it's not exactly a bold statement.

Similarly, if I said right now that TDK isn't going to be beaten in the box office, despite the year not being over, people aren't gonna be posting in droves screaming blasphemy.
 
"Frost/Nixon" Good, But No Best Film?
By Garth Franklin
Thursday, October 16th 2008 3:59am
Many Oscar bloggers have pegged "Frost/Nixon" as the most likely candidate of upcoming films for a Best Picture Oscar nomination. Now it seems that guess may have been premature.

Screenings in both the UK and the US of the Ron Howard-directed film adaptation of the play has yielded a mixed/positive reaction from critics. There were no outright pans it seems (the closest was a mixed review), however even the glowing reviews indicate that its chances of being a Best Picture frontrunner have been dimmed - mostly due of all things to Howard's rather frustratingly straightforward direction. Here's a sampling of various reviews already online:

"An an effective, straightforward bigscreen version of Peter Morgan's shrewd stage drama...Although it all pays off in a potent and revelatory final act rife with insights into the psychology and calculations of power players, the initial stretch is rather dry and prosaic..." (Variety)

"Howard continues to be virtually the only American director to achieve such a high degree of professional skill without displaying a trace of a cinematic personality..." (The Hollywood Reporter)

"The build-up to the final confrontation is an absolutely electric piece of cinema...Ron Howard turns this contest between Michael Sheen's playboy and Frank Langella's marvellous old creep into one of the most compelling cinema waltzes I've yet seen..." (The Times Online)

"Howard's hands-off direction makes for an oddly bloodless viewing experience, with a lot of talk standing in for any fresh perspective (or frankly, much of a perspective at all) on the events..." (The Hollywood Reporter)

"Director Ron Howard and Morgan (who wrote the screenplay) have not only preserved the insight and charm of the play but made it work in a different medium..." (The Hollywood Reporter)

"There is a weird sense of deja vu watching the talky, inert drama...transferring this small-screen drama to the stage was a more interesting medium-shift than moving it to the big screen..." (The Guardian)

Early reaction to other potential contenders like "Milk", "Doubt", "Revolutionary Road", "The Curious Case of Benjamin Button," "The Soloist" and "Australia" should be forthcoming soon. According to early polls among Oscar watchers, only four films to have been heavily screened so far are serious contenders "The Dark Knight," "Slumdog Millionaire," "The Wrestler" and to a lesser extent "Changeling".
 
There is little doubt that Ledger will get nominated...

Here's the prediction on one site:

Jamie Foxx
“The Soloist”
James Franco
“Milk”
Philip Seymour Hoffman
“Doubt”
Heath Ledger
“The Dark Knight”
Michael Shannon
“Revolutionary Road”

I've even seen articles that suggest Ledger might get a push from WB for leading actor.

Will Heath Ledger muscle into a crowded lead actor field?
Posted by Kristopher Tapley · 9:47 am · October 14th, 2008
Add another one to the list. It looks like Thelma Adams has joined Pete Howell in predicting Heath Ledger for a lead actor nomination in WB’s “The Dark Knight.” We first mentioned this idea in back in June, before the film landed in cinemas, and it has slowly snowballed into a possibility for a couple of pundits.

It really depends on what Warner Bros. decides to do with the performance, however. But if the studio tries its hand in the lead category, I really don’t think it will matter. The guy is getting a nomination.

I hate to “go there” with the first concentrated Bat-talk in a month or so (you know, since some of our more bizarre readers can’t handle talking about comic books in a serious discussion). But it’s worth talking about at this point. WB hasn’t declared a strategy, hasn’t launched an awards site, hasn’t shown its cards at all really, other than to announce a January re-release for the film aimed at securing last minue Oscar goodwill. And, of course, the Academy will decide for themselves which category Ledger belongs in.

Conventional wisdom dictates that Ledger would have a much less turbulent ride to a nod in the supporting category, with a traditionally weaker field and less opportunity for Academy members to balk at the notion of a comic book portrayal sliding in. But if you ask me, this is the performance of the year — and not just because I say so, of course. Ledger’s Joker has inched toward infamy, become a pop culture staple and earned its place alongside the greatest of screen villainy. You’ll see his guise all over the country in 17 days. His chances at a lead nomination are as good as they are in supporting, because at the end of the day, whatever the campaign, his is the most talked-about portrayal of 2008.

I don’t think there are too many people who would questiont that. The only variable has been where Ledger can win the award, and you’ll get no argument here that the supporting category is an easier path. But then again, is it? The supporting actor hopefuls have slowly congealed into five solid contenders, at least two of them sporting the scenery-chewing chops that could dilute Ledger’s work ever-so-slightly in the field. Maybe it isn’t a walk-away there, any more than it would be in lead. So why not go for the gusto?

It’s all very timely at the moment, seeing as Warner Bros. has lost a dog in the race as of this weekend. Until “Gran Torino” suddenly sneaks up on all of us, “The Dark Knight” is the studio’s awards season hopeful. But we’re just spit-balling for now. More than likely we will come across an FYC ad or an awards site and Ledger will be listed in the supporting category as expected.

But don’t be surprised. Don’t be surprised.
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Heath is a lock. There is no chance he wont get nominated. Especially now when both Kodi Smit-McPhee & Michael Sheen seems to be out of the race.
 
I don't know about this best actor thing for ledger because 1.He's not the lead, 2. The film is more of an ensemble and a lot of ensembles only get supporting nods like George Clooney in syriana, 3. I think supporting actor could be easier to win, I mean we haven't seen these movies yet but I'm hearing great things about Mickey Rourke.
 
I think that, in a way, Eckhart and Oldman were just as good as Heath but because Heath is dead he will get a nomination, just like how the movie made over 500mil because of that sad fact.
 
oldmans acting was amazing. just like echart.
 
Galactus said:
"Frost/Nixon" Good, But No Best Film?
By Garth Franklin
Thursday, October 16th 2008 3:59am
Many Oscar bloggers have pegged "Frost/Nixon" as the most likely candidate of upcoming films for a Best Picture Oscar nomination. Now it seems that guess may have been premature.

Screenings in both the UK and the US of the Ron Howard-directed film adaptation of the play has yielded a mixed/positive reaction from critics. There were no outright pans it seems (the closest was a mixed review), however even the glowing reviews indicate that its chances of being a Best Picture frontrunner have been dimmed - mostly due of all things to Howard's rather frustratingly straightforward direction. Here's a sampling of various reviews already online:

"An an effective, straightforward bigscreen version of Peter Morgan's shrewd stage drama...Although it all pays off in a potent and revelatory final act rife with insights into the psychology and calculations of power players, the initial stretch is rather dry and prosaic..." (Variety)

"Howard continues to be virtually the only American director to achieve such a high degree of professional skill without displaying a trace of a cinematic personality..." (The Hollywood Reporter)

"The build-up to the final confrontation is an absolutely electric piece of cinema...Ron Howard turns this contest between Michael Sheen's playboy and Frank Langella's marvellous old creep into one of the most compelling cinema waltzes I've yet seen..." (The Times Online)

"Howard's hands-off direction makes for an oddly bloodless viewing experience, with a lot of talk standing in for any fresh perspective (or frankly, much of a perspective at all) on the events..." (The Hollywood Reporter)

"Director Ron Howard and Morgan (who wrote the screenplay) have not only preserved the insight and charm of the play but made it work in a different medium..." (The Hollywood Reporter)

"There is a weird sense of deja vu watching the talky, inert drama...transferring this small-screen drama to the stage was a more interesting medium-shift than moving it to the big screen..." (The Guardian)

Early reaction to other potential contenders like "Milk", "Doubt", "Revolutionary Road", "The Curious Case of Benjamin Button," "The Soloist" and "Australia" should be forthcoming soon. According to early polls among Oscar watchers, only four films to have been heavily screened so far are serious contenders "The Dark Knight," "Slumdog Millionaire," "The Wrestler" and to a lesser extent "Changeling".
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Strange, it definitely looks like a good movie.
 
i see spidey said:
i think that, in a way, eckhart and oldman were just as good as heath but because heath is dead he will get a nomination, just like how the movie made over 500mil because of that sad fact.
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qft. Eckhart deserves a nomination as much as Heath. Hell, maybe even Oldman. What the hell am I kidding, all four of those actors deserve it. They all were equal in different ways. I hate that if Ledger does get nominated, it is because of pity. Or if he doesn't, its because he's dead.

The academy said the award is about hugs, and they don't want to hug the dead. Bull*****. A person's performance doesn't change if a person is alive or not. I though the award was for damn good acting? Not about "hugs."
 
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Heath did something that I would consider 'iconic' for years to come..As much as I liked Oldman and Eckhardt, Ledger stole the show, despite having the least amount of screen time.
 
Eckhardt and Oldman gave good performcances but are you kidding me, oscar-worthy?! :huh:....no, sorry but just no. Those were not oscar worthy performances. Heath Ledger's performance WAS oscar worthy and he deserves to get at least a nomination (he should win as best supporting actor. If Batman was a girl then sure I guess Heath would be the leading actor of TDK but he isn't....so he is technically the supporting male actor). If Oldman, Eckhardt, or Bale were nominated I'd be utterly confused and dumbfounded.

However I do hope and think TDK will also get nominated for screenplay, best picture, and hopefully best director.
This oscar season seems a bit dull and a lot of the films that were expected to be GREAT just turned out to be good....this definitely helps TDK, especially since it has been a phenomenon and will get a re-release.
 
Yeah, I agree. Oldman is one of the most versatile actors of our time, but while he gave a solid performance as Gordon and (character-wise) was the backbone of the film, it is nothing I'd consider Oscar-worthy. The same applies to Eckart's performance. The entire plot revolved around Harvey Dent, and while the performance was solid as well, I would not consider that Oscar-worthy either.

Heath Ledger's performance stole the show, though. Ledger's performance was the one that left the lasting impression. It was a role so well played, Ledger disappeared into the role, and all we saw was the Joker. The role stood out more than Batman, and Batman is the main character of the film. So far, it should be a lock for a Best Supporting Actor nomination. Hopefully, by the time all the films are qualified for the Oscars, Heath Ledger's performance is still in the running for being nominated.
 
So The Soloist is out. I thought that Jamie Foxx will be the biggest competition for Heath...
 
For the oscar season its suicide. But to be honest, it probably didnt have any chance anyway.
 
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