The Fountain

[matrix_ghost]

Movies that require multiple viewing and/or have a deep message with them , have never been something that is immediatly grasped by the general audience. But not to be calling names here or anything , but IMO everytime the states comes out with a movie a la fightclub or bladerunners or in this the fountain , the foreign press slashes it to bits even tough had it come from their own countries such as Spain for example , it would;ve been awarded numerous awards.

Same goes for the strange foreign flicks that americans don't understand.

I had expected this movie to get lots of heat , specifically from the "I don't get it departement" , leading the almost universal " I don't get it so it must suck "conclusion .
What i do hate is that in this day and age of people complaining that there are just too many dumb movies out there instead of the more intelligent ones , they 're just as dumb when these movies do actually come out and they don't understand it.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

I heard this movie got booed hard at the venice film festival

 

[Super_Ludacris]

Damn, the foreign press is killing the buzz of the films I'm looking forward to the most! First Southland Tales, and now this!

Yeah but I suspect maybe they are genuine shyt sandwiches of films. Sometimes just cause a film looks clever dont mean it is (Butterfly Effect). Shame too cause I was looking foward to Southland Tales.

 

[matrix_ghost]

I heard this movie got booed hard at the venice film festival

Yep. See my post on the previous page of this thread .

 

[KenK]

Yeah but I suspect maybe they are genuine shyt sandwiches of films. Sometimes just cause a film looks clever dont mean it is (Butterfly Effect). Shame too cause I was looking foward to Southland Tales.

I actually liked The Butterfly Effect. Is is perfect, no way! But I've since resigned myself to the fact that any film that has time travel as a concept is destined to have flaws. I couldn't enjoy Back to the Future movies if I pick apart all the inconsistencies in their time travel.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

I actually liked The Butterfly Effect. Is is perfect, no way! But I've since resigned myself to the fact that any film that has time travel as a concept is destined to have flaws. I couldn't enjoy Back to the Future movies if I pick apart all the inconsistencies in their time travel.

That's cool, everyone else thought it was wack cause it tried to be clever and it really wasnt. It seems ever since these creative movies came out in 1999/2000 (Fight Club, Memento) people tried to ride the wave of lets make it abstractly different and sometimes the exectution doesnt work

 

[Cinemaman]

I loved Fight Club and Memento, but I didn't like The Butterfly Effect.

 

[KenK]

The two things I really liked about Butterfly Effect were one, they didn't fall back on the cliche of the time traveller being unaffected by the changes in the timeline. I liked that Evan's personality changed to fit the alternate realities. And two,

Spoiler

The fact that his blackouts were actually his older self travelling back in time in the first place. I kinda figured it out beforehand, but I still thought it was an interesting idea

.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

Movie sucked to me because they just went all over the place with the time travelling part to the point where the plot became a joke (this dude got no arms now?) plus although I respect Ashton for trying to be different when things got really crazy he did look like he was reacting like Kelso...

 

[Fanticon]

I see a trend...first Richard Kelly's movie gets a terrible reception at Cannes and now Aronofsky's Fountain...all this hype about movies from visionary directors who had break out cult hits like PI and Donnie Darko...can't seem to get people behind thier newest work. Whats the problem? Fountain has taken how long to finally see the light of day? Southland Tales was 3 hours in length? These guys need to start taking advice from thier peers. And stop complaining about the industry. They've spent money on these movies...people helped get them financed...now, how do they expect to make some of that money back? They're supposed to be making watchable and somewhat marketable films. They weren't just gonna rely on "from the writer director of Donnie Darko" marketing scheme were they? What about the people that still haven't even heard of Donnie Darko...how do you get them to go see Southland Tales?

 

[matrix_ghost]

What IMO it is , is really directors over estimating their audience.
The wachowski did it with Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions also.

It's really overcomplicating things for you're audience. In their eyes they feell that the audience is really for such noodlebreaker .

 

[Seersha]

And I think, you know, I hate to generalise and all... but do average movie viewers go to test screenings (where all the feedback had been from prior to the film festivals)? As an average viewer of most movies, my answer would be "no".... because I don't know about them! Unless you follow a film, it seems that it's kinda hard to know about screenings and then attend them. I don't follow many movies - in the sense of anticipating them, reading every review, posting on forums etc. The ones that I do that for are a very select few. Usually, I never know about a movie until I see a trailer at a theatre or hear about it from a friend of family member. And that's what I think will matter here - word of mouh from the audience. Good or bad. Because, personally, generally speaking, I'm much more inclined to see a movie based on the recommendation of a friend or family member than based on a review. Even if a review is bad, if a friend of mine insists they've seen it and it's good, I'd probably still check it out based on that recommendation. But that's just me. And since this happens to be one of the rare movies I have followed online and such, despite critical reviews, I'll still be seeing this for myself, because I want to make up my own mind. Plus I like Hugh

 

[Seersha]

Interview with Darren about the movie and it's mixed reviews so far...

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/features/story/0,,1866438,00.html

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

One of the few movies I am excited to see this part of the year.

 

[patrickbateman]

i love it when people yawn during the movies. happened a lot during superman returns

 

[tzarinna]

I finally saw the trailer
It looks so beatuiful and the story has some wonderful potential.

 

[Threshold]

I seriously can't wait for this movie, I'm sure I'll love it, no matter what the early word from certain critics are. I tend to go for the artsy/less-mainstream-accessible films anyway. Jackman seems to be something of a revelation in this film and Weisz seems to be continuing doing impressive and tremendous work (as she did in The Constant Gardener). Plus, are any of his regular fans or fans of arthouse flicks the least bit doubtful as to whether Arronofsky is going to hit this one out of the park?

I didn't think so...

Oh and excellent avatar 'tzarinna'! That was one of my favorite movies of the summer!

 

[green]

http://thefountainmovie.warnerbros.com/

the website is now interactive.

 

[xwolverine2]

critics are dumb an old

 

[Antonello Blueberry]

Guys, it's not just critics that didn't like the movie at the Venice Film festival. Out of the 50 or so people I talked to after the screenings, just me and another guy liked it, and still we didn't love it. Its NewAge philosophy isn't something lots of people would like to embrace and though the space images are beautiful, some of them borders the laughable like Jackman (who's very good in my opinion in the movie) in the loto position in the bubble.

 

[Cinemaman]

The Fountain=The Fight Club

I remember how critics were negative to masterpiece like TFC. It was one of the greatest movie, which got respect after 2-3 years.

It was movie of new generation, which also wasn't so understandable for people.

But now, almost every cinema goer has this movie as #1 in his top of favorite films.

The same is going to happen with the Fountain, which will have it's audience only some years later.

 

[Sandman138]

Guys, it's not just critics that didn't like the movie at the Venice Film festival. Out of the 50 or so people I talked to after the screenings, just me and another guy liked it, and still we didn't love it. Its NewAge philosophy isn't something lots of people would like to embrace and though the space images are beautiful, some of them borders the laughable like Jackman (who's very good in my opinion in the movie) in the loto position in the bubble.

I figured there was going to be a good deal of that knowing Arronofsky. However, those images still look breathtaking to me.

 

[JLBats]

I hate today's film industry.

The critics seem to decide en mass what to think of a movie prior to even seeing it.

Months ago, the Fountain was already decided by their little cabal to be "Pretentious drivel", no doubt.

If Citizen Kane came out tomorrow, it would no doubt be booed by the Venice Film Festival.

I think we're getting to a point where people are looking for specific reasons to hate everything, just to achieve some level of "intelligent" film geek reknown.

I fear it'll cripple the film industry.

 

[Cinemaman]

I hate today's film industry.

The critics seem to decide en mass what to think of a movie prior to even seeing it.

Months ago, the Fountain was already decided by their little cabal to be "Pretentious drivel", no doubt.

If Citizen Kane came out tomorrow, it would no doubt be booed by the Venice Film Festival.

I think we're getting to a point where people are looking for specific reasons to hate everything, just to achieve some level of "intelligent" film geek reknown.

I fear it'll cripple the film industry.

Truth is truth, even if it is sad truth

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I hate today's film industry.

The critics seem to decide en mass what to think of a movie prior to even seeing it.

Months ago, the Fountain was already decided by their little cabal to be "Pretentious drivel", no doubt.

If Citizen Kane came out tomorrow, it would no doubt be booed by the Venice Film Festival.

I think we're getting to a point where people are looking for specific reasons to hate everything, just to achieve some level of "intelligent" film geek reknown.

I fear it'll cripple the film industry.

If Kane came out tomorrow I would boo it. Thing is about pretty dated. t: