The Fran Points Program!

[KALEL114]

We are all on MEE's rear.

 

[squeekness]

I appreciate all...rears.

really? I could post some picks of some guys if you like.

 

[Iglius]

Ah, very subtle.




But I mean, c'mon, you don't know giggity?


It's...y'know...giggity...

 

[Showtime]

really? I could post some picks of some guys if you like.

That deserves a Fran Point.

 

[Showtime]

Ah, very subtle.

Mean Girls was just on a bit ago.

 

[squeekness]

That deserves a Fran Point.

I'll take one.

 

[Logan's Runt]

LOL, LR's rear is probably sexier than mine anyhow.

If I get one more point, he can see both our rears at the same time.

 

[Fran]

I'm discussing this possibility with my sponsors.

 

[squeekness]

If I get one more point, he can see both our rears at the same time.

LOL, I did post a couple of quotes for consideration at Fran's behest, but with your sense of humor, you will no doubt pass me quickly.

 

[Showtime]

I'm discussing this possibility with my sponsors.

Fran. Both rears at the same time. :heart:

 

[Fran]

I'm gonna submit more points tomorrow. Too tired.

 

[squeekness]

Fran. Both rears at the same time. :heart:

 

[Logan's Runt]

I'm the one on the left.

 

[Showtime]

 

[jimmy]

I want Fran points!

 

[The Original Bamfer]

Jimmy! JIMMAH! Have we ever interacted here?

 

[Ash J. Williams]

I want to win fran points!

And I want my chainsaw back.

 

[jimmy]

Jimmy! JIMMAH! Have we ever interacted here?

Hardly.

 

[The Amazing Lee]

I want to win Fran points.

 

[Fran]

Squeekness gets 4 more points.

 

[squeekness]

Squeekness gets 4 more points.

 

[squeekness]

Fran suggested I post my quotes here for consideration so he doesn't have to hunt them down. Since I am not terribly funny, it'll just be serious stuff I guess. Wilhielm kept me busy in the Chrsitianity thread all day. Highlights on my end:

In the Book of Job, God actually returned everything to Job twice over as a reward for his faith, but while I get your point, Wilhelm, I don't agree with it. You perceive God as some power hungry monster, a cat playing with us as mice, but I don't. I just don't see what he would get out of it. What purpose does it serve? I think there is some larger plan going on out there that we are simply too small to percieve. We can't make sense of it because we only see one small fraction of it.

I don't quite agree with the eternal punishment either, it would be more cost effective to simply blink you out of existance if he were such a cruel God. I think there may be some kind of cleansing trial, I don't know. Maybe we are reborn until we get it right, again I don't know.

I really think that most people fear punishment so this idea of a big bad fearsome God was established by humans to get the weaker folks to conform. Like a God boogy man or something. I think Jesus came later to try and correct that view, offering us this idea that you can be forgiven for your transgressions if you try to correct your own behavior. It's all about trying to be better about how you treat other people.

Jesus had many things to say. I've always been struck by the way he lashed out at the Jewish leaders for how they treated people. The people had asked for Laws and so God gave them. And then what happened? People who only desired power used those laws to subjugate the people. They expanded on them, going to such detail that it was practically a crime to get out of bed on the sabbath.

I beleive it was these same people who really pounded home this idea that God was wrathful and petty and would zap you for the least silliest thing. They did this as a means to oppress the people and control them. If you sin you had to make a sacrifice at the temple and that leads to the question of who directly benefitted from that? The temple got a share of each sacrifice. The Jewish leaders who made the most rules were the wealthy. This was a real problem. The ordinary joe just trying to make his way was probably made to feel that no matter what he did it would never be good enough so why bother trying? If you are only going to be excluded there was no reward for trying to do better.

I think this was why Jesus spent so much time with the marginalized, telling stories about how happy God felt when his lost sheep returned home. He wanted them to know that everyone was important, no matter how small, and that God would be gracious to them all. I think he wanted to dispell this idea that God was some kind of intolerant monster.

I think some folks hold on to this idea of this impossibly mean God that enjoys toying with us. It has a purpose -- if one clings to this belief then things get a whole lot easier. It's easier to quit. "Well, I'm never going to be good enough anyhow so why bother? Besides, he's just a big fat meanie anyways, so screw him." This paves the way for the idea that He doesn't even exist at all. This way of thinking removes the obligation or the urge to do better. It removes the need for making an effort.

My challenge is this -- If no one can exactly 100% prove which view of God is correct (buddy God or big fat meanie God) why then is it so hard for the meanie God folks to even consider the idea that God might be more compassionate and gracious than they think? Maybe the truth really lies somewhere in between.

There is some truth in this, in speaking to God from the heart. Some folks think that it is disprespectful to argue with God. I disagree. If you believe enough to shout and curse at him, then he is happy with that. You are acknowledging him and his existance. Once you get the anger and the emotion out and quiet your mind, it is easier then to try and work out your differences. Through prayer, not neccessarily Bible study, one may be able to reach some sort of peace with God.

*shrugs* Maybe not. Maybe he likes to call people home. Maybe there's a reason why we only get a certain span of years. Maybe it's to make room for new people since all of us are unique and special. I just don't know.

 

[Mee]

We are all on MEE's rear.

*farts*








...I couldn't resist.

 

[KALEL114]

Welcome back. And cut back on the garlic!

 

[squeekness]

*farts*


...I couldn't resist.

Tee hee.