The Gray Man (Gosling, Evans, Russos)

[Sawyer]

Remember when everyone got horny for cable knit sweaters because Evans wore one in Knives Out?

I pray that same thing doesn’t happen for this film with creeper mustaches.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Looks badass from that little clip they showed.

 

[TheFuture]

Remember when everyone got horny for cable knit sweaters because Evans wore one in Knives Out?

I pray that same thing doesn’t happen for this film with creeper mustaches.

A good tache is much harder to replicate than a sweater. :P

 

[Pennywise]

 

[Deck Rickard]

Chris Evans for alternate universe J. Jonah Jameson.

 

[Stringer]

That's a good looking cast.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Evans is working the hell out of that heel 'stache.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Deck Rickard]

Trailer, dammit! I need to see something more from this movie!

 

[samsnee]

Who knows if the story will be good but the Russos have shown they can handle action well so fingers crossed this is better than most Netflix original movies.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Cherry doesn’t inspire much confidence, but we’ll see.

 

[samsnee]

Was that an action movie? I didn’t see it but thought it was more of a drama.

 

[Deck Rickard]

I know it’s become a cool thing to **** on the Russo Brothers lately, but TWS, Civil War, Infinity War and Endgame are awesome action movies. I think they’ll do fine here if they came up with a good script.

 

[MadVillainy]

I know it’s become a cool thing to **** on the Russo Brothers lately, but TWS, Civil War, Infinity War and Endgame are awesome action movies. I think they’ll do fine here if they came up with a good script.

I have not noticed that at all. On here, Reddit, and Twitter (although I don't go on Twitter much)

 

[Deck Rickard]

I have not noticed that at all. On here, Reddit, and Twitter (although I don't go on Twitter much)

Really? I’ve seen a lot of posts in the Superhero Civil War thread lately talking about how Endgame and IW sucked. Maybe it’s only a few people and it seems like a lot though, I’m not sure.

 

[kguillou]

The Russos have struggled outside of Marvel thats why. I really liked Extraction, even though they technically didnt direct it.

 

[MadVillainy]

Really? I’ve seen a lot of posts in the Superhero Civil War thread lately talking about how Endgame and IW sucked. Maybe it’s only a few people and it seems like a lot though, I’m not sure.

Yeah that's just a few people and I don't think they're doing that in a pile on type way (aka "it's the cool thing to do") type way.

 

[MadVillainy]

The Russos have struggled outside of Marvel thats why. I really liked Extraction, even though they technically didnt direct it.

I would say Netflix worries me more than Russo Bros. Not that I'm worried about the movie at all

Netflix keeps giving carte blanche to directors and I feel a lot of directors have done their worst work with Netflix. Especially when it comes to big budget movies. I think it's the fact they don't give any notes is the issue

 

[kguillou]

I would say Netflix worries me more than Russo Bros. Not that I'm worried about the movie at all

Netflix keeps giving carte blanche to directors and I feel a lot of directors have done their worst work with Netflix. Especially when it comes to big budget movies. I think it's the fact they don't give any votes

That is true, isnt it? You know even though we often complain about studios interfering with directors' visions but...maybe this shows that there really something to be said about studio oversight sometimes.

 

[MadVillainy]

That is true, isnt it? You know even though we often complain about studios interfering with directors' visions but...maybe this shows that there really something to be said about studio oversight sometimes.

Scott Weinberg had a good tweet about it but he took it down. He said that while he was watching 6 Underground (namely the opening car chase) that maybe studio interference is a good thing. Because even as obnoxious as Bay can be, that 6 Underground scene is a different level of obnoxious. Jordan Vogt Roberts (director of Kong Skull Island) replied to Weinberg "Welcome to the gray area." And even before that tweet I always felt it was a gray area

Filmmakers aren't these infallible people who will never do anything wrong. Like any job sometimes they'll need oversight or someone proofreading their work. There are countless times studio interference helped a movie. We just don't hear about it often because the headline of "Studio exec saves movie" isn't as grabby.

Idk why but fanboys have this image of studio execs of a bunch of guys rubbing their hands and laughing about how they're going to screw over a movie. And that filmmaker is always in the right. When that's not the case a vast majority of the time.

Filmmaking is a collaborative process. And that include the execs

 

[Filmfreak]

Will this come out in cinemas as well, like Red Notice? I hope so.

 

[kguillou]

Scott Weinberg had a good tweet about it but he took it down. He said that while he was watching 6 Underground (namely the opening car chase) that maybe studio interference is a good thing. Because even as obnoxious as Bay can be, that 6 Underground scene is a different level of obnoxious. Jordan Vogt Roberts (director of Kong Skull Island) replied to Weinberg "Welcome to the gray area." And even before that tweet I always felt it was a gray area

Filmmakers aren't these infallible people who will never do anything wrong. Like any job sometimes they'll need oversight or someone proofreading their work. There are countless times studio interference helped a movie. We just don't hear about it often because the headline of "Studio exec saves movie" isn't as grabby.

Idk why but fanboys have this image of studio execs of a bunch of guys rubbing their hands and laughing about how they're going to screw over a movie. And that filmmaker is always in the right. When that's not the case a vast majority of the time.

Filmmaking is a collaborative process. And that include the execs

I think nowadays because we as fans/ movie viewers are so privy to how the cake is baked because of the internet and social media and behind the scenes leaks we throw our hands up when we hear the studio "meddled" with a director's film. The Snyder Cut is probably the biggest most extreme version of it but i feel like we've seen a LOT of instances in the past decade of directors talking more and more openly (and frustratingly) about their filmmaking experience with the studios and that kind of vilifies the studio heads as these evil suits who wanna ruin the auteur's vision. And lets be honest, there are instances where the studio's interference does completely F up a movie. But like you said, they also often save them too.

I mean, look at Tenet. I feel like Tenet is a prime example of letting Nolan go too far and given too much freedom. He probably would have done well to adhere to one or two studio notes to make that movie more accessible and coherent.

 

[MadVillainy]

I think nowadays because we as fans/ movie viewers are so privy to how the cake is baked because of the internet and social media and behind the scenes leaks we throw our hands up when we hear the studio "meddled" with a director's film.

I will say one correction. Fans, including me, think we know how the cake is baked. It's just Monday morning QBing that we do on here.

Which I get but it's usually one sided that it gets silly

 

[Deck Rickard]

Scott Weinberg had a good tweet about it but he took it down. He said that while he was watching 6 Underground (namely the opening car chase) that maybe studio interference is a good thing. Because even as obnoxious as Bay can be, that 6 Underground scene is a different level of obnoxious. Jordan Vogt Roberts (director of Kong Skull Island) replied to Weinberg "Welcome to the gray area." And even before that tweet I always felt it was a gray area

Filmmakers aren't these infallible people who will never do anything wrong. Like any job sometimes they'll need oversight or someone proofreading their work. There are countless times studio interference helped a movie. We just don't hear about it often because the headline of "Studio exec saves movie" isn't as grabby.

Idk why but fanboys have this image of studio execs of a bunch of guys rubbing their hands and laughing about how they're going to screw over a movie. And that filmmaker is always in the right. When that's not the case a vast majority of the time.

Filmmaking is a collaborative process. And that include the execs

I agree with your point but… that opening car chase was great IMO. If I’m going to watch a Michael Bay movie, I want the Bayhem cranked up to 100. I had no interest in that Ambulance movie because it looked like it was trying too hard to be taken seriously. I want Bay to do stupid, loud, insane action movies like 6 Underground that are unapologetically high budget garbage. Just keep him away from Transformers and other established properties and just let him do his own nonsensical dreck.

 

[MadVillainy]

I like Bay a fair bit but that car chase was terrible. It just went on and on with nothing really happening.

Perfect Bayhem is still the Bad Boys II freeway chase to me