The Graysons are NOT coming to CW!

[Batman]

The sad part is, this could have absolutely no fans or interested parties, and it'll probably still end up on the air. Whereas that Mercy Reef pilot that had vague interest didn't even make it to television.

 

[Prison Mike]

Millar and Gough had nothing to do with the Bruce Wayne TV series. That was all Tim McCanlies idea that he pitched to Tollin-Robbins. Millar and Gough didnt enter the picture until they decided to scrap Batman and go with Superman.

Really? I was always under the impression they brought it up. Guess I was wrong.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The sad part is, this could have absolutely no fans or interested parties, and it'll probably still end up on the air. Whereas that Mercy Reef pilot that had vague interest didn't even make it to television.

Batman-related = ratings. Aquaman-related = ridicule. Unfortunate, but true.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

Although, if this expedites Smallville being taken off the air, I'm all for it.

other than blatant fanboy pettyness, what's the point of a sentiment like that? YOU personally dislike the show, therefor it doesnt deserve to be on the air? I don't get it. I loathe the majority of reality television and contrived garbage like the CSI shows, yet I dont think I'd ever be bothered enough by them to wish for them to be taken off the air. Enough people watch them so great for them.

The Grayson show has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Smallville. I dont get the need of some here to bring it into the conversation for the sake of belittling it simply because it shares the same Network? Not to mention most of the opinions I've read on the Graysons in Smallville forums seem to loathe the idea of such a show as much as everyone else here.

 

[The Guard]

I'm not a huge fan of SMALLVILLE, beyond a few key elements, and I want to see BRUCE WAYNE as much as any of you. I'm sure that at some point, a Bruce Wayne/Batman will show up on TV when this current franchise has run it's course, and SMALLVILLE is gone.

were talking CW here friend, excecution is not exactly their strong point.

I hear you. Which is why I say that it could work, but probably won't.

This is beyond ridiculous. The proposed timeline doesn't lend itself to revealing anything interesting that would foreshadow the character's heroic future.

That's simply not true.

What's he going to be doing?; leading the middle school revolt against Meat Loaf Wednesdays? Exchanging 'Do You Like Me?' notes with the popular girl in school? Tackling the daunting task of trying to understand his parents' appreciation of Vaudeville?

What does any character, especially a comic book character, do? They have adventures. Dick has issues, like anyone else does. His will likely involve globetrotting and solving mysteries and helping people and so forth.

They're going to make him a full-blown teenager and likely have him as a ready-made Robin, transferring the skills and discipline he largely garnered (or harnessed) from Bruce, place him into contrived situations and incorporate it into this dumbass CW teen format.

Dick Grayson has often been portrayed as very skilled before he met Bruce. He was a martial artist and acrobat, for goodness sake. I don't have a huge problem if Dick Grayson is a teenager on the show, as long as he's not in his twenties or something. It's a valid take on the character.

As far as the "contrived" nature of it goes, I have almost never seen an episodic TV show that didn't feature contrived situations in some fashion. For that matter, I've rarely seen a comic book that doesn't. The quality of those contrived situations should be the issue, not their existence.

You all really can't see how a show about an acrobatic psuedo detective, globetrotting family could be interesting? It probably WON'T be, but it COULD be.

 

[Phatman]

We really don't need a Pre Robin series. Now A NightWing one I'd be down for.

I wish CW would give us the JUSTICE spin off with Green Arrow, Black Canary, Aquaman, impulse, and Cyborg instead. Tom Welling could make cameos.

 

[RakuMon]

And, really... 'DJ'?

I'll watch the pilot, but I'm not happy in the least. There was just so much opprotunity for a Batman related TV series, and The CW chose this crap over anything substantially relevant to the character.

Yeah, I don't get how giving your protag initials is supposed to make him hip. First Arthur Curry is called "A.C." and now Dick Grayson is going to go by "D.J."?

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

I mean, really, CW...WHERE'S THE LOVE?

Why are they sooooooooooooo afraid of costumes and fully realized heroes? Must they aLL be depressed teenagers?

Like I said, The CW is the wrong network for a serious superhero show; it would inevitably turn into a soap and play up those teenage aspects, while playing down the comicbook aspects.

Fox is the best bet for a costumed Nightwing series.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

I'm not a huge fan of SMALLVILLE, beyond a few key elements, and I want to see BRUCE WAYNE as much as any of you.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXkWb49Eh8

 

[The Squirrel]

This is going to suck.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

Like I said, The CW is the wrong network for a serious superhero show; it would inevitably turn into a soap and play up those teenage aspects, while playing down the comicbook aspects.

Fox is the best bet for a costumed Nightwing series.

not sure I follow you on that one? Why Fox? becuase they put out a mediocre Terminator series? I agree CW isnt the answer mostly from a strictly budgetary standpoint as hero shows tend to cost big bucks, but I'm not sure Fox is much of an improvement from a creative standpoint, either as they often play to the lowest common denominator in a lot of their series. I'd love to see a CBS or NBC get a hold of one. Back in the 80's CBS put out some of the more classic superhero tv series of all time. With updated special effects, I'd love to see what they could do with a secondary character like Nightwing or even The Flash (this time without the styrofoam costume ).

 

[DarkSuperman]

Like I said, The CW is the wrong network for a serious superhero show; it would inevitably turn into a soap and play up those teenage aspects, while playing down the comicbook aspects.

Fox is the best bet for a costumed Nightwing series.

That's so very sad, its so obvious to everyone except them.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

This is going to suck.

Now, let's not be hasty. It's just really, really likely to suck.

 

[zerohour films]

Really? I was always under the impression they brought it up. Guess I was wrong.

I think the switch to a Superman centered show originated from an idea in a proposed episode of that Bruce Wayne series where he meets this oddball kid named Clark who's always getting in the way or was around the trouble he was investigating or something.

I remember reading some interview/article about Tim McCanlies saying the WB took the idea of Smallville from him and that he was given some kind of compensation after a legal fight with them. Not sure about the details, have to look it all back up.

That's for another thread though..

Grayson idea is just meh. I mean sure you could jazz it up and what have you, but really what's the point---to capitalize on Batman's recent success and boost a failling network??

Naturally Nightwing would have been a much more interesting show, and I think the success of GA on Smallville shows that people aren't opposed to costumes. But I imagine that the cost of that type of show would be much more.

Not to mention BOP wasn't that long ago and bombed. The studio thinking could be that the premise is too similar (although we know they would be vastly different) to risk it.

So instead of looking into the future of heroes, they are taking the Smallville formula which is proven and looking into the past of heroes.

Now wait for Watchmen to eventually come out and hopefully be a success and you might get more copycats wanting to explore what happens when a well known hero grows old, etc.

There are so many other characters out there that would be better just as they are or are well suited for TV. So it goes.

 

[Lobo]

When i first read this new this morning, the first thought was WTF

Seems like a bad idea to me. there are better characters to do pre-costume series about

 

[DarkSuperman]

Now, let's not be hasty. It's just really, really likely to suck.

LOL

When i first read this new this morning, the first thought was WTF

Seems like a bad idea to me. there are better characters to do pre-costume series about

Why does everything have to be pre costume with the CW? Do they not realize that we live in the age of the superhero? Costumes = Coolness.

Nobody wants to watch parker swing around in his daily bugle sweat suit. What makes them think we'd care to see a POWERLESS hero run around with no powers and no costume?

 

[The Squirrel]

So instead of looking into the future of heroes, they are taking the Smallville formula which is proven and looking into the past of heroes.

But it worked with Superman because he would still have superpowers and be able to fight crime. What is Dick going to do? Travel with the circus each week? He gets all his fight training from Batman. Are we going to spend seven seasons teaching him how to be a badass so by the time Batman comes along he doesn't need the training? Well then he should just go straight into being Nightwing.

 

[zerohour films]

But it worked with Superman because he would still have superpowers and be able to fight crime. What is Dick going to do? Travel with the circus each week? He gets all his fight training from Batman. Are we going to spend seven seasons teaching him how to be a badass so by the time Batman comes along he doesn't need the training? Well then he should just go straight into being Nightwing.

Agreed, didn't say it was a good idea. Just my thoughts on the studios line of thinking.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

not sure I follow you on that one? Why Fox? becuase they put out a mediocre Terminator series? I agree CW isnt the answer mostly from a strictly budgetary standpoint as hero shows tend to cost big bucks, but I'm not sure Fox is much of an improvement from a creative standpoint, either as they often play to the lowest common denominator in a lot of their series. I'd love to see a CBS or NBC get a hold of one. Back in the 80's CBS put out some of the more classic superhero tv series of all time. With updated special effects, I'd love to see what they could do with a secondary character like Nightwing or even The Flash (this time without the styrofoam costume ).

Well I'm just being realistic. WB sometimes airs some of it's properties on Fox. The OC was one of them too; even though that was a teen show.

Fox can definitely handle the type of series a DC show would need to be.

24 is a great example of an intelligent, action-driven (and very badass) series.

 

[batman strikes]

Like others have mentioned I would rather them develop a Nightwing show called Bludhaven, a Gotham Central show, or even a Pre-Batman show about Bruce Wayne travels around the world. I'm sure they are plenty of good stories you can tell with these concepts I just mentioned. I just can't see a show about live at the circus lasting very long.

 

[Gold Samurai]

This sounds as bad as Smallville

Aquaman- only was online

Birds of Prey- didn't even last a full season

so one successful attempt at turning a DC character into a 8n year running series out of three..........

so if "The Graysons" is successful could this lead to a Peter Parker series? I shudder to think

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I believe you'll find that it's one out of three if you count that up again.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

They actually aired the Aquaman pilot on Canadian TV as a 'TV movie'

 

[The Guard]

Maybe "DJ" is like a codename Dick will use when he's do-gooding or something...

 

[Sawyer]

The CW really screwed the pooch with this one. They think that, just because TDK was a huge success, they can put anything even slightly Batman-related on the air and viewers will flock to it. Well, guess what CW....