What I am doing is pointing out is that there is no endpoint here. There is no regulation that could have stopped Paddock without also disarming every citizen in the United States.
Paddock appeared to be mentally healthy and was also very wealthy. If Paddock were made legally unable to purchase guns, then who would be able to? Only the criminals and the oh-so-trustworthy and responsible police. Do you really want that?
The citizens have already been largely disarmed already. That is why it becomes ever more common for people to be trapped with no defense for ten twenty thirty minutes waiting for the a good guy with a gun to show up (in Vegas it took an hour for police to breach the door.) Contrast that with the way it was for the first 150 years of the nation, where the citizens were just as well armed as the military. Like I said earlier, if someone had tried this at the same church a hundred years ago he would have been taking fire from twenty guys with six-shooters instantly.
So yes, I agree that the system is broken, but that doesn't mean we should make things worse.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights#Right_to_keep_and_bear_armsHow the **** is not letting someone have a deadly weapon a violation of human rights?
Actually you do. The shooter in TX had one done at a hunting/sporting goods store and he somehow passed, even with his previous military conviction of domestic abuse and him having failed a background check to get a carry permit in TX earlier. Somewhere along the line, the correct info didn't get properly entered into NICS. The same thing happened with the Virginia Tech and Charleston shooters.
Even assuming it does work and that it would work just as well in the US, you would still have to consider the cost.We can literally look at other developed countries and see the statistics show gun control works. It works well. The USA is the only country that has this problem of mass shootings on an almost weekly basis.
Even assuming it does work and that it would work just as well in the US, you would still have to consider the cost.
When you violate a human right, there will be consequences. Right now the countries with the most gun control are also the ones experiencing massive surges of other crimes such as theft and rape. They also tend to have other human rights violations far worse than the US, like forced abortions and jail time for stating controversial opinions. Do you believe these issues are unrelated?
What? If someone is justly imprisoned, that means they have forfeighted certain rights by breaking the social contract. That is basic.Again, how is not allowing a person have a weapon a violation of their HUMAN rights? So, prisoners should keep firearm privileges? Getting cooky, dude.
Haha uhhhh...then debate it?Jesus H Cracker. This is an insane opinion.
Actually you do and it doesn't matter which state it is. Any gun sold by a licensed firearms dealer has to be done with a background check on the purchaser.You don't get checks to get rifles, or honestly stated the gun stores do not check. The only thing they have interest in licensing and permitting is handguns. And usually only certain people are screened with that. It's pretty scary what you can buy in this state if you have the cash firepower wise.
Even assuming it does work and that it would work just as well in the US, you would still have to consider the cost.
When you violate a human right, there will be consequences. Right now the countries with the most gun control are also the ones experiencing massive surges of other crimes such as theft and rape. They also tend to have other human rights violations far worse than the US, like forced abortions and jail time for stating controversial opinions. Do you believe these issues are unrelated?
Even assuming it does work and that it would work just as well in the US, you would still have to consider the cost.
When you violate a human right, there will be consequences. Right now the countries with the most gun control are also the ones experiencing massive surges of other crimes such as theft and rape. They also tend to have other human rights violations far worse than the US, like forced abortions and jail time for stating controversial opinions. Do you believe these issues are unrelated?
britain, japan etc don't have greater theft per capita than the US and given how extensive british national crime categorization is compared to what the fbi does I'm not sure you could make 1 to 1 comparison thereEven assuming it does work and that it would work just as well in the US, you would still have to consider the cost.
When you violate a human right, there will be consequences. Right now the countries with the most gun control are also the ones experiencing massive surges of other crimes such as theft and rape. They also tend to have other human rights violations far worse than the US, like forced abortions and jail time for stating controversial opinions. Do you believe these issues are unrelated?
Again, how is not allowing a person have a weapon a violation of their HUMAN rights? So, prisoners should keep firearm privileges? Getting cooky, dude.
Again, how is not allowing a person have a weapon a violation of their HUMAN rights? So, prisoners should keep firearm privileges? Getting cooky, dude.
I would have to agree with this and the idea that it is a privilege, not a right.
Prove it.other factors are what cause the phenomenon you describe. Not gun control.
Even assuming it does work and that it would work just as well in the US, you would still have to consider the cost.
When you violate a human right, there will be consequences. Right now the countries with the most gun control are also the ones experiencing massive surges of other crimes such as theft and rape. They also tend to have other human rights violations far worse than the US, like forced abortions and jail time for stating controversial opinions. Do you believe these issues are unrelated?
Earlier on the news I heard a former soldier sat he had to carry his weapon for weeks, with proper training, before he was allowed to put a bullet in it. Yet we have people arguing anyone should be able to buy, and use equivalent weapons, whether outright, or via modding.
I have NP with handguns, shotguns, or hunting rifles. However these shooters ate using semi automatics, recently one nodded to fully automatics. So I'm with you. Joe blow shouldn't be able to easily buy a military level gun that outclasses police officers by far. Without ever having to train with it (like our military has to), or without proper background checks.
I know, I said I didn't want to jump in the debate, lol.
Prove it.
Also, the only governing body comparable to the USA in size and structure is the EU, and yeah, those nations are having massive surges in basically every crime except gun violence. Gun violence also differs wildly between nations and cities in a similar way to how it fluctuates wildly between states and cities in the USA. As for the UK specifically, they have a surveillance state that makes the NSA look like nbd.
You think the police in Vegas use bump stocks and semis?However these shooters ate using semi automatics, recently one nodded to fully automatics. So I'm with you. Joe blow shouldn't be able to easily buy a military level gun that outclasses police officers by far.
Exactly.People who view the Second as an inalienable right to own a tool are misunderstanding it. As I said, none of our rights are that tangible. The Second is the right to self-defense.
...it was "just" homosexual marriage but now with Spacey we see the push for pedophilia to be normalized and of course it is barbaric to make someone wait until they are 18 to undergo a sex change operation. I remember when it was paranoia to say rights would ever be stripped past automatic. Now its bump stocks...tomorrow semi-autos themselves.
You think the police in Vegas use bump stocks and semis?
Also, it is interesting to see the slippery slope in action over my lifetime. The establishment used to make fun of people who saw it coming but here we are...it was "just" homosexual marriage but now with Spacey we see the push for pedophilia to be normalized and of course it is barbaric to make someone wait until they are 18 to undergo a sex change operation. I remember when it was paranoia to say rights would ever be stripped past automatic. Now its bump stocks...tomorrow semi-autos themselves.
If you can't see how the establishment does it, you haven't been paying attention.Exactly.
Criminals regularily use fully automatic weapons in the US, which means those that follow the law have a right to at least that level of self-defense.