The Hood's play shows up the fallacies and limitations of SHRA!

[Anubis]

T-Bolts is pretty good, if for no other reason than seeing D-listers get some spotlight by beating the crap outta some deputized super villains.

 

[PhotoJones]

It's basically a hit list for Z-list characters. That gets old to me after a while.

 

[Anubis]

Come on, seeing what that Condor guy did to Bullseye made the whole Ellis run worthwhile. Nothing like seeing a Greek-Alphabet-Lister beat the crap outta a supposedly A-List Villain. Plus, Songbird and Radioactive man's plight is interesting as well. I really would rather she had gotten a chance to join the Avengers though. It's time if you ask me.

 

[PhotoJones]

I liked Radioactive Man better when he wasn't a complete *****e, too.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Come on, seeing what that Condor guy did to Bullseye made the whole Ellis run worthwhile. Nothing like seeing a Greek-Alphabet-Lister beat the crap outta a supposedly A-List Villain. Plus, Songbird and Radioactive man's plight is interesting as well. I really would rather she had gotten a chance to join the Avengers though. It's time if you ask me.

That would be a nice gesture on Iron Man and Ms. Marvel's part. "Look, even reformed villains can do right and earn a place for themselves among the big guns. Join the Initiative willingly, get immediate amnesty for all of your past crimes, and start on the road to Avengerdom TODAY!"

 

[Anubis]

I liked Radioactive Man better when he wasn't a complete *****e, too.

Where was he a *****e?

 

[PhotoJones]

Where was he a *****e?

He's a giant dickbag now.

 

[Anubis]

No he's not.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

His new costume design is, though.

 

[PhotoJones]

No he's not.

Sure, he is. He was on the verge of becoming a full fledged hero until Ellis took over. Even in CW, he was proving himself to Reed, Tony and Hank. Now he's just another thug working for the government.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

He's counted among the "heroes" of the T-bolts, though. He, Songbird, Swordsman, and Moonstone appear to be held in a different regard from the likes of Venom, Norman, et al.

 

[Anubis]

No, he's not. He's in the same boat with Songbird, as they have shown. He does what he's told though, because he's there as a rep for his country. He's not beating the crap outta paralyzed super heroes like Swordsman is. (Who is really the only original T-Bolt that has lost all previous characterization pre CW. But I can't really fault Ellis for doing that to him, he was a *****e for years, now all of a sudden he's captain America cuz his sisters dead?) One extreme deserves another I suppose.

 

[PhotoJones]

He's counted among the "heroes" of the T-bolts, though. He, Songbird, Swordsman, and Moonstone appear to be held in a different regard from the likes of Venom, Norman, et al.

Have you read any of it, though? These "heroes" are ****ing viscious turds. I think I remember RM kicking some dude in the face while he was down.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Haha, straight out of the Ultimate Cap handbook. I'd expect no less of Ellis.

 

[PhotoJones]

Yeah, pretty much. I'll pass on that grass. I love Ellis, but that book isn't my cup of tea.

 

[Doc Destruction]

Storytelling by committee.

Never really works in comics.

52 begs to differ.

 

[PhotoJones]

Countdown doesn't, though.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

52 begs to differ.

52 stumbled for a while trying to find a coherent voice through all the dissonance.

 

[PhotoJones]

I've actually not read either one. I'm just repeating what the general consensus is.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

52's probably not worth it if you're not into the DC universe as a whole. Countdown's just not worth it in general.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Heroes for Hire is anything to write home about. Thunderbolts isn't that great, either. Those are the ones that stick out in my mind.

I think Thunderbolts has its moments. Venom friggin ate a man's hand!

 

[TheCorpulent1]

That's not Venom.

 

[PhotoJones]

No, it's not.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Gargan > Brock




Wait, I don't know why I said that. I'm sorry.

 

[PhotoJones]

Gargan > Brock




Wait, I don't know why I said that. I'm sorry.

Get the **** out, now.