The Horror Thread - Part 1

[the last son]

That's what I figured. Looks like it needs to be 30 minutes long max.

 

[nite-owl]

I honestly don't understand the appeal of The Slenderman.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

I honestly don't understand the appeal of The Slenderman.

Slenderman was appealing to me way back when it first came about. The first season of Marble Hornets was confusing but pretty creepy. The early photoshops we're neat and it felt like a cool urban legend. But it's blown up and become a bit oversaturated. Although I liked the first Slender game, there's far too many being made now, and no telling how many Slenderman series are currently on YouTube. The idea has dried up quite a bit in my mind.

 

[redhawk23]

it's a great trailer. the problem is stretching it out into a movie. if you watch it, i would highly recommend watching it with a group of friends. don't be the sole victim.

Wait which "trailer" are you talking about? Because if you're referring to the trailer from Grindhouse I'm pretty sure that was unrelated.

 

[66 Face]

Went to a midnight show of Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 last night. Damn is that a bizarre movie. There are some obvious moments of parody and such but really the movie is legitimately disturbing at times.

Also, I really hope Tobe Hooper received some kind of royalty from whatever money House of 1000 Corpses made. The influence of the first TCM film was always obvious, but quite honestly Zombie's film is pretty much a direct ripoff of TCM2 by way of the Natural Born Killer's editing bay. This is made even more obvious by the presence of Bill Mosely in both films.

I think he would actually admit that TCM2 was a father to 1000 Corpses. I think there's some Spider Baby in there too. All of these movies have their roots.

Hammer's version of The Mummy comes out in OCT on Bly Ray. Check that out and see how many films "borrowed" from that movie. The list is a mile long, from Return of the Living Dead 2 to Sleepy Hollow.

 

[the last son]

Wait which "trailer" are you talking about? Because if you're referring to the trailer from Grindhouse I'm pretty sure that was unrelated.

He was talking Thankskilling trailer.

 

[Ant-manic]

Wait which "trailer" are you talking about? Because if you're referring to the trailer from Grindhouse I'm pretty sure that was unrelated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPlg9U5YbY4


and here's the trailer to part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-u5baokRi0&feature=player_detailpage

 

[Heretic]

There's a kickstarter going around to finance a movie co-directed by a 13 year old girl.

Keep in mind...her father is the other director...and he's been doing little indie films that no one cared about for years...so more than likely this is just a sneaky way for him to get attention and funds for an idea that he came up with and is in total control over. But...if a gimmick works, it works. I am almost always a supporter of new talent getting some work done and out there.

I must admit that I'm not terribly excited by the idea...a slasher movie that is an homage to 80's slashers. I've seen about 10 of those already this year. I want NEW ideas that help transition Horror into a new direction.

But...the video hyping the kickstarter is pretty cute.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1103446968/carver-a-horror-film-by-13-year-old-emily-diprimio

 

[NDX]

That just sounds like fun. Good luck to them.

 

[redhawk23]

I think he would actually admit that TCM2 was a father to 1000 Corpses. I think there's some Spider Baby in there too. All of these movies have their roots.

Hammer's version of The Mummy comes out in OCT on Bly Ray. Check that out and see how many films "borrowed" from that movie. The list is a mile long, from Return of the Living Dead 2 to Sleepy Hollow.

There's having roots and then there's making a complete ripoff.

 

[66 Face]

There's having roots and then there's making a complete ripoff.

While true I hate the double standard when it comes to Rob Zombie. Zombie does it and he's ripping people off.

Then everyone goes gaga for Stoker. I liked it better when it was Shadow of a Doubt.

 

[Heretic]

I thought it was pretty clear that Stoker was a re-imagining of Shadow of a Doubt.

It's difficult to grasp the intent of the film makers when watching a movie. Both House of a Thousand Corpses and Stoker seem like films done in honor of old movies. For some reason other films sometimes just come off as unimaginative rip-offs.

 

[66 Face]

I thought it was pretty clear that Stoker was a re-imagining of Shadow of a Doubt.

It's difficult to grasp the intent of the film makers when watching a movie. Both House of a Thousand Corpses and Stoker seem like films done in honor of old movies. For some reason other films sometimes just come off as unimaginative rip-offs.

It is. I was just pointing out how some people are allowed to re-imagine and others aren't.

Stoker and Psycho, the remake, show its really hard to follow a master like Hitch. I would have liked to have seen Psycho handled like the Maniac remake... a POV style of Norman Bates.

 

[Figs]

While true I hate the double standard when it comes to Rob Zombie. Zombie does it and he's ripping people off.

Then everyone goes gaga for Stoker. I liked it better when it was Shadow of a Doubt.

As far as I'm concerned, if the filmmaker lets it be known that this or that movie heavily inspired their film, that's not a rip off to me. I only consider it a rip off if someone's movie cleary took a lot of things from another movie but the filmmaker denies it or doesn't bring that up.

Some people are quick to jump on filmmakers, claiming that they're ripping off this or that. I'm sure there have been numerous movies in the history of film that have been inspired by others, but it seems only recent filmmakers get fingers pointed at them.

 

[redhawk23]

While true I hate the double standard when it comes to Rob Zombie. Zombie does it and he's ripping people off.

Then everyone goes gaga for Stoker. I liked it better when it was Shadow of a Doubt.

My problem with House of 1000 Corpses, having now seen TCM2 is that it does nothing to take the concept in another direction, it pretty much just occupies the same space.

The Devils Rejects is another question though. That film actually plays on Denis Hoppers TCM2 character's archetype, of the determined policeman tracking down the crazed killers of a loved one, but takes it lot further and in a different direction. In and odd way it actually comments on the current events of 2005 with the war on terror and America's mood in general.

The ending of that film is one of my favorites.

 

[Heretic]

Just watched The Stranger Within, a movie where Estella Warren and Sarah Butler apparently are going to fight over William Baldwin...so clearly this is a work of fantasy fiction.

The movie has mostly received press from Horror sites, but it only barely qualifies as kinda-sorta-maybe in the category. Warren plays a famous actress who gets abducted (briefly) and raped by a masked man. An anonymous tip leads to her rescue about 3 minutes later, but the event leaves her mentally damaged (though they never catch the guy and he never makes another appearance in the film outside of her imagination). Her psychiatrist husband (Baldwin) takes her on vacation where they meet Butler, whose boyfriend just died after falling off a cliff. It goes nowhere for an hour and a half and then it twists itself into knots trying to explain a big reveal.

My biggest gripe is that...there are scenes that are clearly TRYING to be scary...they think this is a Horror movie. But 95% of those scenes are dreams or hallucinations. There is nothing actually scary happening in the film. There's even the good old, "something scary happens but it was just a dream...the girl wakes up and something else scary happens, but that's just a dream too" scene. The script is awful...the things it has them doing and saying are pretty cringe-worthy. The acting pretty much reflects that.

I tend to rank movies on a weird scale. Yes, quality matters...but a movie that was bad, but fun might be ranked really high alongside movies that were actually great films (Sharknado isn't too many spots below Upstream Color). Meanwhile, a movie might be technically decent, but leave a bad taste in my mouth (like, say...Man of Steel) and I'll rank that below a film that was just bad or boring. Since I'll forget that I even watched this by tomorrow, it'll likely end up just above my really, really bad films of the year.

 

[Ant-manic]

My problem with House of 1000 Corpses, having now seen TCM2 is that it does nothing to take the concept in another direction, it pretty much just occupies the same space.

The Devils Rejects is another question though. That film actually plays on Denis Hoppers TCM2 character's archetype, of the determined policeman tracking down the crazed killers of a loved one, but takes it lot further and in a different direction. In and odd way it actually comments on the current events of 2005 with the war on terror and America's mood in general.

The ending of that film is one of my favorites.

i have no problem saying that Devil's Rejects was superior to House of 1000 Corpses. i definately enjoyed the character beats and story, better. it was undeniably a rob zombie film. but that's ok and dandy when he's not just forcing that style onto a more familiar movie i.e. Halloween.

 

[Donnie Darko]

I've still never seen House of 1000 Corpses. I own Devil's Rejects and think it's a hell of a ride. Like redhawk said, the ending is awesome.

 

[Ant-manic]

I've still never seen House of 1000 Corpses. I own Devil's Rejects and think it's a hell of a ride. Like redhawk said, the ending is awesome.

for me, it's the song that they chose for the shootout.

 

[redhawk23]

So whatever reason Saint Louis University's main cafeteria had an "80's Night" (Even though pretty much all of us were born post-'90). What this amounted to were some decently made pacman decorations and then covering all of the tables in drawing paper, crayons and miniature Rubix cubes. I took the opportunity to cover some tables in in horror characters.

 

[Thundarr]

It is now 1:00 am on Friday The 13th, and I am officially 30 minutes into my Friday The 13th movie marathon.

Happy Friday The 13th everyone!

Ki-ki-ki-ki . . . Ma-ma-ma-ma . . .

 

[Thundarr]

So whatever reason Saint Louis University's main cafeteria had an "80's Night" (Even though pretty much all of us were born post-'90). What this amounted to were some decently made pacman decorations and then covering all of the tables in drawing paper, crayons and miniature Rubix cubes. I took the opportunity to cover some tables in in horror characters.

Nice drawings.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

Gotta go pick up Crystal Lake Memories today. Cannot wait to watch everything on that documentary.

 

[Thundarr]

i have no problem saying that Devil's Rejects was superior to House of 1000 Corpses. i definately enjoyed the character beats and story, better. it was undeniably a rob zombie film. but that's ok and dandy when he's not just forcing that style onto a more familiar movie i.e. Halloween.

I've only seen Devil's Rejects, not House Of 1000 Corpses, so I don't know which is better. I thought DR was okay, but not great.

As for RZ's style not working for Halloween, I'm in 100,000% agreement. It might've been more suited to the remakes of Friday The 13th or Texas Chainsaw Massacre (you know, movies whose characters already HAD a white trash/ redneck upbringing). But not for characters like Michael Myers.

 

[redhawk23]

If the first half of his first Halloween film was just part of another movie, influenced by Halloween, but not leading into a forced Haloween remake, it would have been a pretty solid basis for a film.