The Horror Thread - Part 2

[GENERAL RAAM582]

A Nightmare on Elm Street 5: The Dream Child 7.0
Friday the 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan 5.5
Freddy's Dead: The Final Nightmare 6.5

 

[NDX]

Gonna back to back the first 2 Halloweens today, then watch 3 tomorrow (or after midnight, really).

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

I think I'll begin the Hatchet Trilogy once my Freddy/Jason marathon is over.

 

[NDX]

I need to get that third one on BD soon. Hopefully before the month is out. Same with Maniac.

 

[redhawk23]

I feel like I've seen the whole movie twice now from the trailers alone. Also, I can't buy Moretz as a social outcast.

I absolutely do not understand such comments. In any way. Seriously. Its completely ridiculous.

 

[DarKush]

Had a little horror marathon yesterday.

I Spit On Your Grave 2: I liked it. It was very brutal. Not for the faint-hearted. If you saw the ISOYG remake, this movie is in the same vein but it is not a sequel. It's a new tale of torture and revenge. The lead actress was pretty good. I hope she gets more roles.

The Collection: I didn't care for The Collector, but I liked this sequel much better. I liked the story set up, of the team hunting the Collector. And it also had the hot Shannon Kane in it. I'm still on a big fan of the Collector as a character. He doesn't have a personality.

Vacancy 2: I liked this film a lot more than I thought I would. I didn't think it was a bad prequel at all. Unfortunately I couldn't remember enough about the first Vacancy to get all the little nods I'm sure Vacancy 2 was doing.

Final Destination 5: For some reason it took me a long time to get into this movie. I would watch it and fall asleep, and that happened a couple times so I just put it away. Finally I pulled it back out and watched it and I don't get what was boring me the first few times. It wound up being pretty good. It's my second favorite film in the franchise now, with the first film still remaining on top.

 

[Heretic]

Love the concept trailer for the proposed Final Destination 6. Was NOT expecting the franchise to go in that direction and I hope the studio backs it.

 

[the last son]

So, I Spit on Your Grave 2 was pretty good. I was thinking of watching it, but didn't know if it was worth it. Enjoyed the remake. Never saw the original.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Tonight's film is The Monster Squad, IMO a very underrated 80's classic monster movie.

 

[Heretic]

I really, really didn't like I Spit On Your Grave 2. I posted a long review of it...but the biggest flaw is that it's lazy. The first one had a mentally challenged/slow bad guy as the first to rape the girl...so this one did as well. The first one had her repeating quotes the bad guys used and twisting their methods of punishment around when it came time for her revenge...so this one did as well. Come on guys...we know an innocent girl must be victimized in some way, and she must then get revenge (not too different from The Crow franchise). EVERYTHING ELSE can be unique to that movie. It's just unforgivably lazy. They should think outside the box a bit next time.

I also had a problem with the casting and handling of her profession. Not only did I think she did a lousy job during the revenge act of the film, I didn't buy her as a model who had it all to make it except money. The actress is just a hair over 5 foot tall...she isn't going to be a fashion model in NYC. Plus, in order to get her in the situation, they had to really jump through hoops. Neither her nor her successful model friend can find an inexpensive model photographer? That's odd...because I COULD and I'm a guy and not even remotely a model. And the guy she calls is rude, evasive when she asks questions and then hangs up on her asking for only a cell phone head shot? Okay...well...that guy isn't a pro and even I would know that...it isnt like he showed her a single picture he'd ever taken. I don't know of any model who would actually travel alone to meet him. That may be small stuff to most...but I think that if you're going to hinge your movie on a profession, you need to have someone on set who understands the profession and can make the film seem to exist in the real world.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

Love the concept trailer for the proposed Final Destination 6. Was NOT expecting the franchise to go in that direction and I hope the studio backs it.

Didn't know about this until just now. I love that idea, and it'd be better than trying to hash out another mediocre sequel. FD5 was pretty good though.

 

[NDX]

I absolutely do not understand such comments. In any way. Seriously. Its completely ridiculous.

I don't see her as someone who would be the victim of bullying, taking me out of the film. It stems from personal experiences and what I've seen working in and out of schools the last 6 years. I know it's very possible, but what I've seen and lived makes it hard for me to believe when it comes to this film.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

No matter how you look or what crowd you hang out with you can still be bullied and picked on by other kids, even if your super popular. I don't think the Carrie remake will touch the original in any way it's just not possible, but it may be like the Evil Dead remake and be pretty good while still doing its own thing.

 

[Thundarr]

Not really a horror movie, but I just bought Disney's The Adventures Of Ichabod Crane & Mr. Toad. I used to find the animated Sleepy Hollow kinda scary as a kid. Nowadays I just love the nostalgic fun.

 

[redhawk23]

I don't see her as someone who would be the victim of bullying, taking me out of the film. It stems from personal experiences and what I've seen working in and out of schools the last 6 years. I know it's very possible, but what I've seen and lived makes it hard for me to believe when it comes to this film.

I don't find her any more or less 'attactive' than Sissy Spacek, nor most of the unpopular or bullied students I went to school with.

The religious extremism of the character's family is a major source of derision in the various iterations of the story as well.

 

[Kane52630]

31 Days of Horror Marathon

Day 1: The Frighteners - 7.5/10
Day 2: Maniac Cop - 7/10
Day 3: All the Boys Love Mandy Lane - 5.5/10
Day 4: Frankenstein and the Monster from Hell - 7/10
Day 5: Prince of Darkness - 8/10
Day 6: From Beyond - 7.5/10​

 

[TheDreamMaster]

Watched Friday the 13th (2009) after hating it when it was released. Honestly, not as bad as I remember. 6/10 for sure, because Jason was pretty badass, but most of the characters, save the brother and sister were awful people.

So, even with me being a F13 fan, have they ever actually told us how Jason is alive. I know how he was resurrected in part 6, I know JgtH tried to sell us the Necronomicon, and Jason X gave him regenerative powers. But considering human Jason, we know he supposedly drowned, and then showed up 20 years later after his mom died. The remake seems to infer he resurrected somehow when his mom died, but it doesn't really go into it and set the time period up a lot differently, so I can't really use that one toward the old series. Any ideas?

 

[Thundarr]

Watched Friday the 13th (2009) after hating it when it was released. Honestly, not as bad as I remember. 6/10 for sure, because Jason was pretty badass, but most of the characters, save the brother and sister were awful people.

So, even with me being a F13 fan, have they ever actually told us how Jason is alive. I know how he was resurrected in part 6, I know JgtH tried to sell us the Necronomicon, and Jason X gave him regenerative powers. But considering human Jason, we know he supposedly drowned, and then showed up 20 years later after his mom died. The remake seems to infer he resurrected somehow when his mom died, but it doesn't really go into it and set the time period up a lot differently, so I can't really use that one toward the old series. Any ideas?

In the novelisation of Friday The 13th Part 2, Jason was born with regenerative powers. He was actually a normal looking child, but when he drowned the worms & insects burrowed under his flesh and caused his face to become deformed.

It's not my preferred explanation, but that's what I've read.

 

[BH/HHH]

Watched Friday the 13th (2009) after hating it when it was released. Honestly, not as bad as I remember. 6/10 for sure, because Jason was pretty badass, but most of the characters, save the brother and sister were awful people.

So, even with me being a F13 fan, have they ever actually told us how Jason is alive. I know how he was resurrected in part 6, I know JgtH tried to sell us the Necronomicon, and Jason X gave him regenerative powers. But considering human Jason, we know he supposedly drowned, and then showed up 20 years later after his mom died. The remake seems to infer he resurrected somehow when his mom died, but it doesn't really go into it and set the time period up a lot differently, so I can't really use that one toward the old series. Any ideas?

Well in the remake/reboot/requel which I love, it's clear he survived, you just have to assume he washed up on shore later or something but he's clearly there when Mrs Voorhees us decapitated.

In the original series, it's never really explained outside of Paul's old folks tale at the Camp fire where Jason is mentioned as a legend and Ginny saying at the bar what if he did survive etc. The explanation is pretty much what happened in the reboot but instead if Jason drowning in 1980 like the reboot in the original series he drowned in 1957 and supposedly survived in the woods fir all those years until seeing his Mother beheaded in 1980. Why Jason's body had never been recovered from the lake or why Jason never returned to the Camp is anybody's guess. It's kind of half assed but I guess we don't mind ha ha.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

Well in the remake/reboot/requel which I love, it's clear he survived, you just have to assume he washed up on shore later or something but he's clearly there when Mrs Voorhees us decapitated.

In the original series, it's never really explained outside of Paul's old folks tale at the Camp fire where Jason is mentioned as a legend and Ginny saying at the bar what if he did survive etc. The explanation is pretty much what happened in the reboot but instead if Jason drowning in 1980 like the reboot in the original series he drowned in 1957 and supposedly survived in the woods fir all those years until seeing his Mother beheaded in 1980. Why Jason's body had never been recovered from the lake or why Jason never returned to the Camp is anybody's guess. It's kind of half assed but I guess we don't mind ha ha.

Yeah, I got that in the remake, since the remake seemed to imply the Mrs. Voorhees killings were of the counselors who let him drown, not just one and then start up again years later. But I always wondered about the original series, since I can't imagine he'd just live in the woods with his condition, and I can't imagine Pamela would just let his body stay at the body of the lake or whatever. Guess it never really mattered in the long, just always ends up on my mind watching Part 2.

 

[BH/HHH]

Yeah, I got that in the remake, since the remake seemed to imply the Mrs. Voorhees killings were of the counselors who let him drown, not just one and then start up again years later. But I always wondered about the original series, since I can't imagine he'd just live in the woods with his condition, and I can't imagine Pamela would just let his body stay at the body of the lake or whatever. Guess it never really mattered in the long, just always ends up on my mind watching Part 2.

Yeah that's one of the reasons Sean Cunningham and Tom Savini were so against a sequel as Friday the 13th had been set in reality and they felt bringing Jason back was too far fetched. Its funny because with the originals chair jumping ending it made sense to bring him back from a certain standpoint but it really did make no sense. I think that's why they gave the explanation like it was a legend so people could make their own minds up about how he returned. Tbh he's so unstoppable even up until the 4th one you could maybe say he's some sort of ghost or something. I guess at the time people weren't as bothered as they would be today about the explanation.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

Yeah that's one of the reasons Sean Cunningham and Tom Savini were so against a sequel as Friday the 13th had been set in reality and they felt bringing Jason back was too far fetched. Its funny because with the originals chair jumping ending it made sense to bring him back from a certain standpoint but it really did make no sense. I think that's why they gave the explanation like it was a legend so people could make their own minds up about how he returned. Tbh he's so unstoppable even up until the 4th one you could maybe say he's some sort of ghost or something. I guess at the time people weren't as bothered as they would be today about the explanation.

Yeah, gotta say, that's one thing I'll give to the remake for sure. Even then, the original surprised us with kid Jason, and then he was obviously an adult by the time he showed up, so I don't know how to explain it. Surely, given Mrs. Voorhees apparently lived in town, via JgtH, Jason would have tracked her down or something. I guess it isn't worth overthinking, but between the big three series, Jason has the most inconsistent origin (the others just get more convoluted depending on which films you follow).

 

[Heretic]

My Halloween Horror marathon Day 6: 100 Bloody Acres

The reviews for this (which I didn't read in advance) have been really good! Apparently this is a Horror Comedy, but I didn't know that going in...and didn't laugh. Unfortunately, I hated all of the characters. The main girl is cheating on her boyfriend the very first time we see her. The friend guy is just so unbearably rude, stupid etc that I was hoping someone would kill him immediately. Later, when the boyfriend finds out about the cheating, he can't stop talking about it...despite the fact that he is being held captive by men who intend to grind him up for fertilizer. Once freed, he attacks his friend instead of trying to escape. His friend had done acid earlier and spent the whole film giggling about being hunted, stabbed, slashed etc. In retrospect, I guess I was supposed to laugh at this stuff...and generally I CAN laugh at funny scenes in the middle of dramatic situations (One of my favorite films of the year, Resolution has several very funny scenes). But the characters in this movie just never took the danger seriously. They were tied up, gagged, and one of them was being held upside down with a chain about to be ground up to bits...and two of the three didn't care AT ALL that this was happening to them. That takes it out of the realm of Horror Comedy and straight into farce territory. If they can't take it seriously, why should I? Again...I eventually realized that I wasn't supposed to be worried for them...wasn't supposed to be frightened or emotionally invested at all. Maybe had I been viewing the movie expecting a nonsensical farce I'd have enjoyed it more, though I just didn't find the humor very funny...but I don't want to watch it again to find out.

 

[BH/HHH]

Yeah, gotta say, that's one thing I'll give to the remake for sure. Even then, the original surprised us with kid Jason, and then he was obviously an adult by the time he showed up, so I don't know how to explain it. Surely, given Mrs. Voorhees apparently lived in town, via JgtH, Jason would have tracked her down or something. I guess it isn't worth overthinking, but between the big three series, Jason has the most inconsistent origin (the others just get more convoluted depending on which films you follow).

Yeah that's pretty much it I guess suspend disbelief. I mean one explanation as to how he didn't find his Mother was maybe due to his shall we say problems but even then he managed to survive in the woods and find the camps etc and as an adult was able to track down Alice.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

Yeah that's pretty much it I guess suspend disbelief. I mean one explanation as to how he didn't find his Mother was maybe due to his shall we say problems but even then he managed to survive in the woods and find the camps etc and as an adult was able to track down Alice.

Now it makes even less sense!