The Horror Thread - Part 2

[StarLord]

The word at IMDB is he's writing the third reboot movie. Of course take that with a grain of salt to be factual. Especially with him credited for characters only at this stage and a release date of 2018, 5 years from now.

I wouldn't look to much into that, Lussier's been attached to direct it since 2009 but everything was halted after Zombie's H2 bombed.

 

[Astro13Zombie]

I got a chance to see watch "The lords of salem" the other day..
What an absolute steaming pile of ****.

It's not very often that I completely and utterly hate a movie like this.
I was excited about it before it was released in theaters.......
Not sure really what I was expecting of it....but that wasn't it.

It just seemed like it was building up and building up and then it was kind of a abrupt and disappointing ending.

I'm not one of those horror fans who have boarded the Rob Zombie hate bandwagon or anything.
House of 1000 corpses and the devils rejects are two of my favorite horror films from recent years.
I had problems with it,But I didn't hate his first Halloween(Can't say the same for the sequel )
It's just that this movie was awful.heh

There was a lot of stuff that seemed like it was just there to look "cool",whether it made sense or not

1/10

Also watched "Hitchcock"
Which I guess isn't really a horror movie,but It kind of fits in this thread(...right?)

I loved it.

 

[Heretic]

At the moment, Lord of Salem is my least favorite movie of 2013. It's absolute garbage. Sure, there are other really bad movies...but in my opinion, it is less offensive when some new director with first time actors and 20 bucks for a budget make a bad movie than it is when well known and financed talent make a crap film.

 

[Rocketman]

I don't care for Rob Zombie at all, honestly. He reminds me of Quentin Tarantino if he decided to make Horror movies (I also don't like Tarantino).

Eh, I just don't like this whole shtick anymore. Give me a good movie. Don't make a bad movie on purpose. Don't be cheesy and outrageous and say it's art, and if I think it sucks and say it's cheesy, don't say "You just didn't get it."

This goes for Zombie, Tarantino, and Robert Rodriguez. Just give me a good movie. Don't give me this "intentional amateurism" crap.

The only person - the only person - who gets away with this "style" for me is Sam Raimi, because although The Evil Dead Trilogy is cheesy and cheaply made, you can tell they're really trying. They're really trying to make great, funny movies, and they shine. The colossal amount of effort is clearly seen, and they actually changed the medium in my opinion. And they're damn good movies. There's passion there, and the audience feels it.

These guys nowadays, they get big, huge budgets and it's like they flush them down the toilet on purpose. Stop being stupid. You have amazing financial opportunities to make great films (budgets that any student could only dream of), and you make Machete Kills instead. It's kind of insulting.

 

[Thundarr]

Now it makes even less sense!

In the original movie, Jason jumping up out of the water and grabbing Alice wasn't meant to be a precurser to a string of sequels. It was supposed to be Alice having a nightmare after drifting off to sleep while in the canoe.

As for Jason finding Alice in Part 2, Alice was NOT at her home in California. She was still in the town of Crystal Lake. She decided to stay there to try and overcome her nightmares. So how did Jason find her? Crystal Lake isn't a very big town. Peek in enough windows, and sooner or later you're gonna find the house you're looking for. His calling her on the phone is the more confusing part. I prefer to interpret that as Alice's mom calling her back just as Jason cuts the phone lines. Makes more sense that way.

Like I wrote earlier, in the novelization of Friday The 13th Part 2, Jason did drown as a boy, but because he's some sort of regenerating freak (kinda like X-Men's Wolverine) he recovered. He just didn't recover in time to stop the worms and bugs from eating his face and leaving him deformed. Then all those fires that happened at Camp Crystal Lake? Those were the work of Jason. He wasn't trying to keep the place shut down, he was just trying to keep warm. The fires in the fireplace just got away from him is all. Everything else he learned through trial and error. And when he couldn't kill & eat small game, bugs & worms are pure protien.

And as to why Jason was never able to find his beloved mother? First she was hospitalized after Jason's apparent drowning due to a complete mental breakdown. When she was released, she just took off. No one knew where she went after that. At least that's been my understanding.

 

[Ant-manic]

Both the Evil Dead and the remake had a tree rape a woman so the Blob doing so is not far off in concept. Whether it would be appropriate is of course another matter on how it's depicted.

'Slither' kind of counts. it has a sort-of-blob and non-consensual impregnation.

 

[Thundarr]

The last JC film I saw was Vampires, so I'm not too sure what his recent movies have been like.

My post was based on a more selfish fanboy level. Like one last hurrah for him or something, but only if he had the right story etc.

I think that might require a straight up sequel to Resurrection, and I'm trying to forget that that film was ever made. And there's really nowhere to go after H20 (one of the reasons Resurrection sucks so bad).

I watch JC's Halloween, Halloween II, and Halloween: H20 as a trilogy. I don't include Parts 4 through 6, partly because they're so poorly done in comparison. But also I highly doubt Laurie would have faked her death and left her daughter behind, which she apparently does if you consider H20 a sequel to CoMM.

 

[66 Face]

I just finished watching the remake of The Thing (2011) for the first time. I've been putting it off for almost two years, because Carpenter's The Thing is one of my favorite movies of all-time, no question.

However, you know what? This remake wasn't so bad, man. Mary Elizabeth Winstead really held her own. After assuming that this would be all boobs and blood and no substance (it is the 2000's after all), I'm pleasantly surprised that she mostly wore a turtleneck the whole time, she had virtually no make-up on, and the movie was basically just "selling" her cute face and not sex in general. There's nothing "hot" or "teen" going on here. She's just a cute, cute girl. Not once was my intelligence insulted.

And I'm impressed by that. Her character could've easily been written for a man without many script changes (literally one or two tweaks of dialogue), and she was very believable as a scientist. Dare I say it, she kind of channeled Jodie Foster as Clarice Starling for me.

Although the CGI was a bit disappointing and didn't have that charm of the original's effects, I found myself embracing the fact that this is the new norm for any movie... and I found myself accepting this movie.

I can't believe I'm typing this, but I'm happily putting this film on the shelf next to the original. I gladly welcome it with open arms, and I think in 10 years' time it might find an appreciation with a new audience.

Probably one of the better remakes I've ever seen (although it is a prequel).

I didn't hate it but it lost me as soon as it became a run of the mill monster movie. There was hardly any hiding or morphing for the entire 2nd half of the movie.

 

[Rocketman]

I didn't hate it but it lost me as soon as it became a run of the mill monster movie. There was hardly any hiding or morphing for the entire 2nd half of the movie.

Dude, that was like, the entire last 30 minutes.
If anything, it had more action and morphing than the original... it just happened to be CGI more than practical effects.

I watched both movies back to back, and Carpenter's is clearly - obviously - the superior masterpiece (I've seen it literally 30 times)... but the remake is an impressive "companion" in my opinion.

I actually wouldn't mind a third movie... Make this a trilogy. Make it 20 years from now, which I'm sure they'll do, since Summer 2033 will consist of Spider-Man 19 and Transformers 14.

 

[66 Face]

Dude, that was like, the entire last 30 minutes.
If anything, it had more action and morphing than the original... it just happened to be CGI more than practical effects.

I watched both movies back to back, and Carpenter's is clearly - obviously - the superior masterpiece (I've seen it literally 30 times)... but the remake is an impressive "companion" in my opinion.

I actually wouldn't mind a third movie... Make this a trilogy. Make it 20 years from now, which I'm sure they'll do, since Summer 2033 will consist of Spider-Man 19 and Transformers 14.

I saw it in the theater and haven't watched it since but it seemed like the alien spent at least a third of the movie as the alien. It also seemed like a lot of action without the suspense of the original. I remember liking the first half but then hating how it ended. I did like the very end though and how it tied to the original.

 

[Kane52630]

31 Days of Horror Marathon

Day 1: The Frighteners - 7.5/10
Day 2: Maniac Cop - 7/10
Day 3: All the Boys Love Mandy Lane - 5.5/10
Day 4: Frankenstein and the Monster from Hell - 7/10
Day 5: Prince of Darkness - 8/10
Day 6: From Beyond - 7.5/10
Day 7: Phantasm - 6.5/10​

 

[Heretic]

My Halloween Horror Marathon Day 7: The Amazing Adventures of the Living Corpse, a cartoon movie based on a comic book I've never heard of.

Wow...this is just bad...I get through a few minutes, then have to take a break. The only reason I MIGHT finish this is to be able to say I watched a movie every day for my marathon. The voice acting is ATROCIOUS. The comedy is awful. So far I have nothing good to say about it.

EDIT: I gave up on it. That makes this, Aftershock (which I may finish because it's on instant streaming) and ABC's of Death the only films of the year I've been unwilling to finish (forgot to add another movie...something like Ax Giant: The Wrath of Paul Bunyan). I haven't decided if this means that they are automatically my worst films of the year picks or if they don't "count" since I didn't watch the entire thing.

 

[BH/HHH]

In the original movie, Jason jumping up out of the water and grabbing Alice wasn't meant to be a precurser to a string of sequels. It was supposed to be Alice having a nightmare after drifting off to sleep while in the canoe.

As for Jason finding Alice in Part 2, Alice was NOT at her home in California. She was still in the town of Crystal Lake. She decided to stay there to try and overcome her nightmares. So how did Jason find her? Crystal Lake isn't a very big town. Peek in enough windows, and sooner or later you're gonna find the house you're looking for. His calling her on the phone is the more confusing part. I prefer to interpret that as Alice's mom calling her back just as Jason cuts the phone lines. Makes more sense that way.

Like I wrote earlier, in the novelization of Friday The 13th Part 2, Jason did drown as a boy, but because he's some sort of regenerating freak (kinda like X-Men's Wolverine) he recovered. He just didn't recover in time to stop the worms and bugs from eating his face and leaving him deformed. Then all those fires that happened at Camp Crystal Lake? Those were the work of Jason. He wasn't trying to keep the place shut down, he was just trying to keep warm. The fires in the fireplace just got away from him is all. Everything else he learned through trial and error. And when he couldn't kill & eat small game, bugs & worms are pure protien.

And as to why Jason was never able to find his beloved mother? First she was hospitalized after Jason's apparent drowning due to a complete mental breakdown. When she was released, she just took off. No one knew where she went after that. At least that's been my understanding.

When we see Jason drown in the original Friday the 13th he's already deformed.

Also yeah you can say Crystal Lake is a small town but why didn't Jason go back into the town after surviving his drowning? Boy or not I'm sure he could walk.

Also the regeneration thing is something I thought had only came in later Friday sequels after the 6th one. Its never mentioned in the early films though (infact was Jason X the first to mention it?) and novelisations aren't considered canon.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Finally watched Return of the Living Dead last night, I forgot how fun and entertaining that film is.

So far my List I've gone through:
Return of the Living Dead
The Shining
Crystal Lake Memories (which took me 4 days to finish)
Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter
American Horror Story:Season 2
The Monster Squad
Nightmares in Red, White and Blue (Documentary)
Carrie
Rosemary's Baby
World War Z

I've got a long list left to go, for the next few days I'm tackling:
Curse of Chucky
Spaced Invaders (Not horror but Halloween related anyways)
The Legend of Sleep Hollow (Disney)
Maniac 2012 (remake)

 

[redhawk23]

At the moment, Lord of Salem is my least favorite movie of 2013. It's absolute garbage. Sure, there are other really bad movies...but in my opinion, it is less offensive when some new director with first time actors and 20 bucks for a budget make a bad movie than it is when well known and financed talent make a crap film.

That movie actually had a lot going for it, showed some interesting restraint, had an interesting dynamic between the lead and her friend....and then it just completely sputtered out in a half-assed montage.

Very disappointing.

 

[redhawk23]

DarkVengeance, have you seen the new Maniac before? If not, you're in for a treat.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

I have not seen it yet redhawk and I've been eagerly anticipating it for a while now due to it never came to any of my local theaters, I'm really excited.

 

[Astro13Zombie]

Finally watched Return of the Living Dead last night, I forgot how fun and entertaining that film is.

My favorite movie
"You think this is a ****in' costoom?!"

 

[Kane52630]

I actually enjoyed Return of the Living Dead 3 for what its worth.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

I may watch the 2nd and 3rd if I have time but right now my Halloween list keeps growing and growing I think I may have bit off more than I can chew so to speak.

 

[Astro13Zombie]

I actually enjoyed Return of the Living Dead 3 for what its worth.

I've never seen that one.
The cover alone makes me not want to watch it.
Looks like it belongs in the hellraiser series.

 

[GoblinScrier]

After I get off work today, can't wait to pick up my bluray boxset of Chucky (including the much anticipated Curse of Chucky)..I am so excited

As for a 31 days of horror, if I were to do it: this would be my viewing list if I was to do one a day since I am obsessed with horror, I usually watch more than 1 easily:

Halloween (John Carpenter’s)—NUFF SAID
Halloween 2 (1981 not the sequel to the remake by Rob Zombie) (the one time where I will include the first and sequel together since they take place on the same night and is just a true continuation of the same story…plus it’s a kickass sequel…my personal favorite in the genre)
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974)---BBQ never tasted so good…with Leatherface making it …love this and part 2 (1986)
Phantasm (1979)---low budget creepy effort that has a great cast with Angus Scrimm as a graverobbing mortician simply called THE TALL MAN.
Salem’s Lot (1979)—Great mini series that was written by Stephen King about vampires…James Mason is awesome!!!
Prince of Darkness (1987)—John Carpenter directed this underrated film about a group of students who find the Devil in an abandoned church and bringing about the end of the world…Donald Pleasence (Dr. Loomis from Halloween series) is a priest and Alice Cooper is a street schizo who turns violent 
The Omen (1976)---never a creepier name in the English language than Damien…
The Exorcist (1973)---Peasoup, the Devil, and Possession…
Psycho (1960)—Hitchcocks’s masterpiece that gave birth to the modern horror film…a boy’s best friend is his mother
George Romero’s Day of the Dead (1985)—3rd part of his “Living Dead” Saga (First was Night of the Living Dead, then Dawn of the Dead)---his masterpiece about scientists and military personnel dealing with the global threat of the undead
Friday the 13th (1980) (personal favorite is part VII: The New Blood) but the original is the one so many cling to so I can recommend it
Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) (personal favorite is part IV: The Dream Master) but like the original Friday the 13th , so many cling to this one as well…also one of the few times Freddy is truly scary and not as comedic as he would become.
Creepshow (1982)—Stephen King wrote it, George Romero directed it, and master of special Efx Tom Savini did the special effects for this 5 part anthology…brilliant!!! In fact it will be shown at midnight at the Baxter on October 12…I will be there 
I, Madman (1989)---low budget fare about a book obsessed woman who starts living her books as the killer escapes from fiction into reality…very underrated
Hellraiser (1987)---Clive Barker’s sadomasochistic nightmare about a puzzle box that unleashes demons on earth…first appearance of Pinhead (played 8 times by Doug Bradley)…this and part 2 are the best
Child’s Play (1988)---Chucky…ooh boy…creepy doll…gotta love his warped sense of humor…the first of 6 installments…personal favorite is part 2 and Bride of Chucky
Suspiria (1977)---Italian director Dario Argento’s masterpiece in my opinion about a ballerina student who goes to an academy in Europe only to find out a coven of witches are causing mayhem there…one of the best opening death sequences…
John Carpenter’s The Fog (1980)---An amazing cast (Adrienne Barbeau, Jamie Lee Curtis, Janet Leigh, and so many others) about a town that is haunted by ghosts who have come to avenge wrongs done to them.
Freddy vs. Jason (2003)---not really scary so much as just an incredible rollercoaster ride to see these 2 icons of terror beat the tar out of each other….saw it 9 times in the theater…NEVER get tired of it.
Hills Have Eyes (1977)---Wes Craven’s creepy experience of a family who is stranded in the desert while being stalked by cannibalistic inbred mutants. Dee Wallace and Michael Berryman (Pluto) star in this nasty little film.
Demons (1985)---Italian Director Lamberto Bava’s just flat out disgusting film about a theater that opens up in the middle of the city where after watching a movie about demons, they come out of the movie into our world and tear the flesh off the living…over the top efx (the Italians are known for their very bright red blood)…followed by a great sequel
Sleepaway Camp (1982)---Often called a ripoff of Friday the 13th, this first of a 4 part series of films deals with murders at a camp…perhaps one of the most memorable endings EVER…so shocking it has to be seen…
Scream (1996)---Wes Craven’s resurrected his career and the horror genre with this very well thought out film that pokes fun at the conventions of the horror genre…great cast…great references…the first of 4 films.
Revenge of Frankenstein (1958)—one of several films that British studio Hammer Films did with Peter Cushing as Dr. Frankenstein. This happens to be my personal favorite but any of them would work (Curse of Frankenstein, Frankenstein Created Women, Frankenstein Must Be Destroyed, Evil of Frankenstein, and Frankenstein and the Monster From Hell)
Night of the Demons (1988)—A great fun movie (the first of 3 movies plus a remake) where a Halloween party occurs at Hull House and demons are unleashed by hostess Angela…great low budget efx
Saw (2004)---Personal favorite is part 3 but this “torture porn” series kicked off a new type of sub-genre of horror about Jigsaw and his deadly machinations…live or die…make your choice!
Hatchet (2006)---A great retro slasher-quality that features the exploits of Bayou legend Victor Crowley. Jason Voorhees veteran Kane Hodder (played Jason 4 times more than anyone else) plays out the trilogy as Victor. Over the top kills.
Carrie (1976)---Sissy Spacek and Piper Laurie steal the show as mother and daughter…telekinesis gone wrong…don’t go to the prom after this. Adapted from Stephen King’s first book.
House of 1000 Corpses (2003)---A return to that gritty 70s vibe…Zombie knocked this one out of the park about some teen tourists who come across the Firefly family. Very disturbing.
Jaws (1975)---I debated putting this in horror but I guess its more horror/suspense but none the less, Peter Benchley’s novel about a shark that attacks Amity Island…that theme is forever locked in our mind when we get in the ocean. Richard Dreyfus, Roy Scheider, and Robert Shaw steal the show
Evil Dead (1981)---Favorite is part 2 but gotta respect most people’s choice to pick the first as the ultimate cabin in the woods movie…5 teens unwittingly unleash demons from reading the Necronomicon aka the Book of the Dead.

 

[redhawk23]

I don't care for Rob Zombie at all, honestly. He reminds me of Quentin Tarantino if he decided to make Horror movies (I also don't like Tarantino).

Eh, I just don't like this whole shtick anymore. Give me a good movie. Don't make a bad movie on purpose. Don't be cheesy and outrageous and say it's art, and if I think it sucks and say it's cheesy, don't say "You just didn't get it."

This goes for Zombie, Tarantino, and Robert Rodriguez. Just give me a good movie. Don't give me this "intentional amateurism" crap.

The only person - the only person - who gets away with this "style" for me is Sam Raimi, because although The Evil Dead Trilogy is cheesy and cheaply made, you can tell they're really trying. They're really trying to make great, funny movies, and they shine. The colossal amount of effort is clearly seen, and they actually changed the medium in my opinion. And they're damn good movies. There's passion there, and the audience feels it.

These guys nowadays, they get big, huge budgets and it's like they flush them down the toilet on purpose. Stop being stupid. You have amazing financial opportunities to make great films (budgets that any student could only dream of), and you make Machete Kills instead. It's kind of insulting.

I wouldn't say Tarantino's film fall under the "forced amaturism" style, outisde of Death Proof. He is definitely influenced by the tropes and styles of those old cheapo films but he puts them to use with a lot of skill and high production values. Even with Death Proof he has a lot of skill on display in how the chase scenes are shot and edited. Too much skill really.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Zombie is nowhere near the level of Tarantino, Zombie isn't a good filmmaker period he simply got lucky with HOATC and TDR.

 

[hitmanyr2k]

The wife and I are going with Invasion of the Bodysnatchers '78 and The Blob ('88 remake with Kevin Dillon) tonight. I wish The Blob could get a re-release on bluray.