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On the Friday The 13th Thread, it was announced that Corey Feldman has expressed interest in reprising his role of Tommy Jarvis in another sequel to the original timeline. I believe there was confusion on who owns the rights to the property (Paramount, New Line Cinema, or Platinum Dunes) which was keeping the project in Development Hell. I don't know if anything has been resolved with that or if it's still in the planning stages or what.

I've said this before and I'll say it again, I'd love to see a "Survivors United" Friday The 13th movie, with the actors from Parts 2 through 5 (or possibly 2 through 7 if you want to include some of the Zombie Jason movies) all reprising their roles from those films. They're all in group therapy together because they all have shared a similar experience with surviving the attacks by a hockey masked killer. They return to Crystal Lake in order to confront their demons. But when they get there, Jason is waiting.
That would be awesome. As long as they don't do a prequel I'll be happy. If it does go into Jasons past I'm hoping its just hinted at and then we can make up our own minds.

I didn't even mind the remake that much. I loved the first 10 mins but then it turned into the same old thing. So much more could have been done with a Jason hunter and it just didn't turn out to be anything.

I've always heard that the sequal for that remake was going to be set in the winter. I would have loved to have seen Jason killing in the snow.
 
That would be awesome. As long as they don't do a prequel I'll be happy. If it does go into Jasons past I'm hoping its just hinted at and then we can make up our own minds.

I didn't even mind the remake that much. I loved the first 10 mins but then it turned into the same old thing. So much more could have been done with a Jason hunter and it just didn't turn out to be anything.

I've always heard that the sequal for that remake was going to be set in the winter. I would have loved to have seen Jason killing in the snow.

I don't really see how they could do a prequel, unless they were to do a movie about Jason growing up all alone in the woods. The novelization of Friday The 13th Part 2 explored that aspect of Jason's past a little bit. Turns out that the rash of fires was from Jason squatting in the cabins while living alone in the woods. He built a fire in the fireplace to keep warm, but didn't keep control of it very well and burned the place down a few times. But an entire movie about that isn't going to be very interesting to watch. For one thing, Jason doesn't speak. It'll be 90 minutes with virtually no dialogue. For another, Jason didn't start killing until he took revenge on Alice Hardy for killing his mother. So a 90 minute prequel to a slasher film with no slashing? No thank you.

I suppose they could do a movie adaptation of the Friday The 13th comic "Pamela's Tale" story arc. When Pamela Voorhees picks up Annie in the first movie, she tells Annie about her life. Her marriage to Elias Voorhees (who was an abusive drunk), her escape from him (which included chopping him up with an axe and blowing up their trailer), her moving to the town of Crystal Lake, settling down, giving birth to Jason, etc. In the comic, Jason always had a penchant for violence (he used to torture and kill small animals). Then Pamela gets a job cooking at Camp Crystal Lake and brings Jason along. It ends with Jason drowning, Pamela going apes**t nuts, then murdering the two counselors from the teaser opening of the first movie (who, in the comic, were the two who were supposed to be watching Jason when he drowned). The story ends with Pamela pulling up to the camp in her jeep and Alice comes running out of the cabin expecting to find Steve Christy. I suppose that could work, but again it would be a slasher film with very little if any actual slashing.

I kinda like the idea of Jason killing in the snow too. There was a couple of issues of the Friday The 13th comics that took place in the winter time. But I can understand why the studios would be reluctant to make such a movie. For one thing, shooting winter scenes requires one of two things. Actually shooting during the winter time, or shooting on a sound stage in fake snow. I suppose they could cover an actual summer camp in fake snow as well, I'm just not sure which of these is most most cost effective. Real snow would likely be most cost effective, but it's also most unpredictable. You could be scheduled to shoot a scene that takes place after the snow has let up, but you find yourself in the middle of a virtual blizzard. You might be scheduled to shoot a scene that takes place during a snow storm, and there's not a cloud in the sky. Also, with take after take of people running through the snow and getting chopped up, it'll be very time consuming and expensive to cover up the actors' tracks and the fake blood spatter each and every time. Setting the movies during the summer is quicker, cheaper, and easier. And often times that's what the bottom line is in deciding on a movie script to green light.
 
Interestingly enough, I finished working at a summer camp the previous week, and found my desire for another Friday film recharged (esp. since we watched the reboot at camp the one night.) I agree that a change in seasons would be nice and would have some interesting visuals (blood on the snow, for instance; they could do Rorschach-ing with it for an extra visual and thematic punch,) but, I cannot help but feel that Fall would be a good season, as well. The images of death and decay would complement everything: Jason's suspended animation, the death of the councilors, the perceived 'moral decay' in their actions, and so on.
 
Interestingly enough, I finished working at a summer camp the previous week, and found my desire for another Friday film recharged (esp. since we watched the reboot at camp the one night.) I agree that a change in seasons would be nice and would have some interesting visuals (blood on the snow, for instance; they could do Rorschach-ing with it for an extra visual and thematic punch,) but, I cannot help but feel that Fall would be a good season, as well. The images of death and decay would complement everything: Jason's suspended animation, the death of the councilors, the perceived 'moral decay' in their actions, and so on.

On a somewhat related note, while the original films were all set during the summer months, they were all actually shot during the fall. I believe the shooting of Part 4 actually stretched into early winter (it's just hard to tell because it was shot in California or some similarly warm state that doesn't get snow in the winter). They always try and aim for a late spring shoot, especially when they're shooting at an actual summer camp (the 1980 original, Part 2, and Part 6 in particular), as it would give them summer like weather to shoot in, but the camp wouldn't be getting their first batch of kids until sometime in July. Then there would be the inevitable delays, forcing them to wait until after the camp is closed for the season. Then they'd try for an early September shoot (still summer like weather, but technically it's fall), get more delays, then wind up shooting in mid October (kinda appropriate for shooting a horror movie, being so close to Halloween and all, but tougher to make people believe you're at camp during the summer).
 
I was not aware of that; thanks for sharing Thundarr. :yay:

You can learn a lot by watching the featurettes on the Special Edition DVDs, and by watching the movies with the feature length commentary. And if you pay attention while watching the movies, you can catch little clues as to what time of year they were filmed. For example, especially in the first two, during the final confrontation between the shows survivor and the killer, whenever they talk you can see their breath.

And Betsy Palmer had said on a number of occasions that she woke up to go to work on the set only to discover it had snowed over night. While she thought it was strange that she was hired for her "motherly characteristics", yet had to wear several layers of flanel shirts and wool sweaters to make her look "more butch", she was thankful for that because she wasn't nearly as cold as many of her castmates.
 
Man, I forgot how amazing the original A Nightmare on Elm Street is. Especially that awesome score. :yay:

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That is one movie I was actually nervous to watch as a kid. The first Nightmare is such an enjoyable watch. Freddy when he was actually something to fear and not a stand up with goofy one-liners.
 
That is one movie I was actually nervous to watch as a kid. The first Nightmare is such an enjoyable watch. Freddy when he was actually something to fear and not a stand up with goofy one-liners.

Same here. I remember seeing the poster for Freddy's Revenge in the video store and being totally freaked out by the image of Freddy. I never watched any of them until sometime after Dream Warriors came out on video. I still say #1 & #2 are the best of the series. Many people dislike Freddy's Revenge, and count Dream Warriors as a better movie, but I like the fact that Freddy was still very scary in #2. In Dream Warriors is when he started making little quips and one liners with every kill. I found that was when he began being less scary, so while Part 3 has better effects and considerably less homoerotic undertones, Part 2 is the scarier movie IMO. Everything after Part 3 just goes downhill from then on, each movie being generally worse than the one before it.
 
I saw the movie Prank. It's a no-budget, badly acted, poorly scripted found footage horror about three (well, mostly two as one of them disappears for no reason midway through) kids who want to get revenge on a bully. However, I enjoy looking at Hannah Kasulka, so I watched it.
(spoilers, I'm not posting anything specific...but some people are fairly sensitive about even general things)

There's a twist...but I saw it coming from miles away, so I spent the entire film just waiting for the big reveal. It made for a torturous experience.

Also just watched The Demented...a new zombie (the rage type zombies that can run...and apparently are smart enough to jump over obstacles and open doors...yet not smart enough to climb or...open doors?) movie starring Sarah "I Spit on your Grave" Butler made by one of the producers of A Nightmare on Elm Street. This was awful. How hard is it to avoid writing completely unnatural dialogue (though, it seems like a few lines were flubbed and they just kept rolling). Also, I really think that they used the same "zombie crashes through a glass door" shot twice within 2 minutes (same zombie, same glass door, even shown to be the same hallway). The editing was TERRIBLE. There were several times where they seemingly forgot to edit the film correctly...so someone says something...they'll cut away...and then when they cut back the person says the same thing again (or for instance, a zombie sticks his arm through an opening where their should be glass in a door...they cut to our victims running...then the zombie puts his hand through the opening again...shattering the glass).

Sometimes it sucks to be a Horror fan. These are two of the worst films I've seen this year.
 
Same here. I remember seeing the poster for Freddy's Revenge in the video store and being totally freaked out by the image of Freddy. I never watched any of them until sometime after Dream Warriors came out on video. I still say #1 & #2 are the best of the series. Many people dislike Freddy's Revenge, and count Dream Warriors as a better movie, but I like the fact that Freddy was still very scary in #2. In Dream Warriors is when he started making little quips and one liners with every kill. I found that was when he began being less scary, so while Part 3 has better effects and considerably less homoerotic undertones, Part 2 is the scarier movie IMO. Everything after Part 3 just goes downhill from then on, each movie being generally worse than the one before it.

Quips or not, Freddy has some extremely gruesome kills in Dream Warriors. The hypodermic needles and the marionette scenes in particular. At that point Freddy is still squarely the antagonist, the film being about the characters coming together to beat him.

What I hate about horror franchises is how they always morph into something where you are rooting for the killer.
 
You can learn a lot by watching the featurettes on the Special Edition DVDs, and by watching the movies with the feature length commentary. And if you pay attention while watching the movies, you can catch little clues as to what time of year they were filmed. For example, especially in the first two, during the final confrontation between the shows survivor and the killer, whenever they talk you can see their breath.

And Betsy Palmer had said on a number of occasions that she woke up to go to work on the set only to discover it had snowed over night. While she thought it was strange that she was hired for her "motherly characteristics", yet had to wear several layers of flanel shirts and wool sweaters to make her look "more butch", she was thankful for that because she wasn't nearly as cold as many of her castmates.
You might be the guy to ask. Have you ever heard what the original scripted ending to Ft13th part 3 was?

I've always heard that what we got and what was scripted were different.
 
You might be the guy to ask. Have you ever heard what the original scripted ending to Ft13th part 3 was?

I've always heard that what we got and what was scripted were different.

Yeah, it did have a different ending. Originally Chris was going to hear Rick calling for help from the house. She went running up to the house to help him and Jason bursts out of the door and chops her head off with a machete. They changed it because they though it would be better to have the traditional sole survivor again.
 
Seeing as I haven't really ever held down a job all I do is watch TV and films. I got to see Evil Dead when I was 22 or so simply because I watched every horror film Blockbuster had.
 
NOES has a terrific soundtrack. I love the film as well, :hrt: Nancy.
 
Obviously there are some "true" fans. Not everyone who listens to Mumford and Sons

I'm not a fan of Oasis but I do like what Liam Gallagher said about Mumford & Sons :funny:

"There's a lot of banjos. Everyone looks like they've got f******nits and eat lentil soup with their sleeves rolled up. They all look like they live on the Heath."

"Everyone's f****** Don McLean, far too many acoustic guitars, no style, they look like they shop at Oxfam."

"They look like f****** Amish people."
 
I agree. At least, assuming you're referring to the original. The remake? Not so much.
Funny enough, I remember getting very pumped when the original theme played over the opening title to the NOES remake, and then we never freakin' heard it again.
 
Funny enough, I remember getting very pumped when the original theme played over the opening title to the NOES remake, and then we never freakin' heard it again.

That's one of the many things about that movie that I have a problem with. The theme music was so epic in the original that not using it in the remake was a total sin.

Incidentally, I've just recently watched the documentary "Never Sleep Again" on You Tube, and I found it to be both very informative as well as very entertaining. If any of you have not seen it yet, I recommend giving it a look.
 
"Never Sleep Again" is a fantastic documentary. Highly recommended for Nightmare on Elm street fans. There's also a documentary about Heather Langenkamp , but I haven't watched it.
 
"Never Sleep Again" is a fantastic documentary. Highly recommended for Nightmare on Elm street fans. There's also a documentary about Heather Langenkamp , but I haven't watched it.

Another really interesting documentary on the horror genre is Masters Of Horror, hosted by Bruce Campbell. Both "Never Sleep Again" and "Masters Of Horror" are available to be watched on You Tube in their entirety (ie: not chopped up into 10 or 15 minute segments).
 
"Never Sleep Again" is a fantastic documentary. Highly recommended for Nightmare on Elm street fans. There's also a documentary about Heather Langenkamp , but I haven't watched it.
I'm watching it now. What the hell is up with Lezlie Deane?
 
In terms of documentaries on the genre as a whole, I highly recommend Mark Gatiss' 'A History of Horror' and 'Horror Europa.'
 
I have made a list of the best 400 movies in my personal taste of course and plan to upload it in YT but I am divided as to which franchise has better movies overall. F13th or Nightmare.
IMO the first 4 Ft13th's are downright awesome. The you have 6 and 7 that are still very good. Even 5 and 8 have their moments. 9 and 10 I flat out hate.

I wouldn't say that I'm not an Elm Street guy but I only really liked the first one. It was mentioned in an earlier post and they're right. At least part 2 tries to be scary. The kid might scream like a **** but Freddy was still cool. Dream Warriors is a great idea but Freddy got way to sappy in those movies.

Maybe the better battle is with Halloween. I think there are a strong 4 or 5 Halloween movies and that's not counting Season of the Witch.
 
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