The Dark Knight The Ideal Batman/Superman Sequel Timeline

........good idea

 

We've yet to see if SR will warrant a sequel. And if it does flop, then it probably takes the idea of a crossover with it. For 10 years or so anyway.

 

See, IMO, i want to see more batfilms before a World's Finest movie (not BVS = they shouldnt fight each other). I want to see a Begins 4-5-6 and have them possibly tie in the "No Man's Land" storyline and then have Lex come in and try and overtake the real estate in Gotham (since he's so obsessed with it - especially in the movies) and explain that thats how Bats and Sups team up. I think that really is the best way IMO.

 

I seriously doubt they make 5 sequels to Begins.

 

I seriously doubt a Superman/Batman movie. Idea doesn't move me much.


I rather just have a Batman movie.

 

I would prefer a Dark Knight Returns movie to wrap it all up. The film would of course be strategically released a few years after the final installment of Nolan's series.

 

No crossovers. Ever. I like Superman okay, but I like Batman much better, and frankly, Batman's world is sort of... unlike Superman's in almost every way. The fact that they exist in the same universe is sort of... a necessary evil. In the films, it doesn't have to ever happen. And it never should.

Just like AVP, a Batman/Superman movie would be a BAD, BAD, HORRIBLY DISASTROUSLY unfortunate thing.

 

There's simply no way you could realistically plan past 3 sequels.

In that fun fantasy world of imagination however, I would like to see pretty much what you wrote out; S/B film after the trilogies, a JLA film in the distant future, etc.

 

...that's the point.

In comics when you see them in the same universe, working together, it honestly seems completely natural. Granted this is the same universe where a bunch of 12 year olds and run around fighting crime, and a magical chimp can become the World's Third Greatest Detective, but that's comics for you.

Obviously, the 12 year olds running around fighting crime and the Detective Chimp would be laughable outside of comics. Probably. But, IMO at least, Superman, while much more of a fantasy than Batman, is not nearly ridicuous enough to not be able to work on film with Batman.

If you don't want to see it, fine. But, if a good director and script presents itself, the people who do want to see it shouldn't be denied a good movie, I'd say.

AVP wasn't bad due to the idea, but rather the execution. With a horrible director, writer, etc. what can you really expect? However, if a Superman/Batman movie was made, hell, if a AVP movie was made, with a talented director, and a credible writer and cast you would probably have : a good movie.

 

all good points that own all the opposite ones

 

They will keep making Batman films until the films stop making money - that is the simple truth here. It is clear the Batman Begins series will be a key to WB, this month will show us how reliable the Superman franchise is in todays world. I believe the Flash movie will also be a big franchise for WB (or atleast I hope so since he is my second favorite Superhero) and I am uncertain about Wonder Woman. There are some talks about GL Movie projects as well. I think as far as time lines go they will try to continue the

Batman (Summer 2005)
Superman (Summer 2006)
Wonder Woman (Summer 2007)
pattern with The Flash/GL/JL/etc fit in along with them.

IMO my best guess is that if Superman Returns does not do as well as hoped, Flash will end up being a 2009 project sharing the light the Superman Returns 2. If Superman does well I would expect it either in 2007 (with WW) or perhaps a fall release in '08.

 

Batman Begins(2005)
Superman Returns(2006)
The Flash(2007)
Wonder Woman(2007)
Batman Begins 2(2008)
Superman Returns 2(2009)
Batman Begins 3(2010)

I think since BB2 and BB3's stories will likely be tied fairly close, it makes sense for BB3 to come out maybe two years after BB2 rather than three.

 

Hello, CConn. Welcome back.

Well, there's always Lancelot Link.

Nah, but the world should be denied a bad one.

I disagree. I don't think an AVP movie can ever really be good. I loved the hint in Predator 2 that these two species had met, but I just don't think it's a good idea to put them both in one movie. Because you can't go anywhere after that. It destroys both franchises.

Same with Batman and Superman. This type of crossover works in comics and cartoons - (I loved the TAS "World's Finest" story) but I don't see it ever being good in the cinematic universes.

 

I side with CConn in this above fiasco.



Also, I think Bale will still be too young to do Beyond in 2021. Thats a good date for DKR. As much as I love Beyond and as much as I love DKR, they can't exist in the same continuity. There are just too many issues. Either one story or the other will have to be too different.

 

As far as DKR goes, I'd rather have them do it with Keaton and Nicholson before they get too old. Maybe they could do it after BB3 before they continue on with the series?

 

that would never work. DKR could not exist in the Burton film continuity, which is what people would assume this to be if they used those actors. The Joker that Nicholson played is dead.

Personally, I dont think DKR or Batman Beyond should be adapted into a film. See, they're both different takes on how the character's story could end, and it would feel kinda wrong to pick one over the other to put into a film. They should either wait until official DC continuity gives Bruce an ending and use that, or create their own.

 

No Batman vs. Superman movie, I rather have Batman movies and Superman movies separate.

 

Neither Nicholson nor Keaton should ever be involved with another Bat-movie.

I personally think DKR would make for a great end to the back story, however Batman Beyond would make it possible for future Bat-movies so I could see both working. Perhaps borrow the darkness of DKR with the protege angle of Beyond to create a nice center.

 

Turn DKR Robin basically into BB Batman - it could work.

 

They'd have to make a change from the original story is all. In DKR The Joker pretty much magically re-animates when Bruce becomes Batman again, which is supernatural. Since the comic has a supernatural element anyway, why not just have the Nicholson Joker come back from the dead when Bruce puts back on the cape and cowl?

 

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