The Incredible Hulk CGI Thread

[BMM]

I think the CGI is one of the pitfalls of this movie. I'm watching Hulk (2003) on SciFi HD, and while Hulk doesn't look as cool as he does in The Incredible Hulk, what's there is more believable and realistic looking--the lighting, textures, and interactions between the CGI and real life environments are just better. I like Rhythm & Hues, but I wish ILM was still working on the Hulk franchise. I think they would do a better job, as some of the sequences in The Incredible Hulk look slightly better than something found in a video game animatic.

 

[marty mcfly]

I think the CGI is one of the pitfalls of this movie. I'm watching Hulk (2003) on SciFi HD, and while Hulk doesn't look as cool as he does in The Incredible Hulk, what's there is more believable and realistic looking--the lighting, textures, and interactions between the CGI and real life environments are just better. I like Rhythm & Hues, but I wish ILM was still working on the Hulk franchise. I think they would do a better job, as some of the sequences in The Incredible Hulk look slightly better than something found in a video game animatic.

couldn't agree more. TIH hulk is SO much better looking in terms of design, and while i think the cave scene is CGI perfection, the rest of the movie isn't consistent. we have like 3 or 4 different hulk faces. the chair scene with SSterns was probably the weakest of all the scenes. it had great moments, but as a whole it had the weakest CGI.

If ILM had done this movie it would have been leagues better. R&H did a great job though, and i bet with another 10 million dollars and another 6 months to work on it, it would have been 100%

here's to TIH2


edit: also, I was watching Hulk03 the other day, and even though he didn't say anything, his "hulk smash" was better. he just looked better, again because ILM is the superior fx house.

 

[CGHulk]

Just putting this out there, if ILM had been able to have worked on this film they would of improved upon their last effort by making the Hulk photoreal. They would of used Louis Leterrier new design. But Rhythm and Hues is cheaper and finacially less risky for a reboot film. ILM is more expensive than R+H is. You get what you pay for.

 

[chaos123x]

The new design of the Hulk is way cooler and more comic like.
But the new Hulk looked less real not because of his design, but because Rhythm and Hues are not as good as ILM with CGI. He looks plastic in some scenes.

The 2003 Hulk's design had problems, the color green was a bit to bright, and the hulk was a little to childlike.

But ILM did some awesome stuff with it, translucent flesh, moving muscles, layers of skin veins, dirt and layers. They also used banas face in the design (not just a added scar or mole). He looked more like a real living and breathing Hulk, not plastic looking CGI.

Overall ILM is just a better FX house, I wish they used them for this film instead.

Maybe the next movie they will re-hire ILM or maybe if they want cheaper but just almost as good go with WETA.

 

[Kirmit]

Why are people assuming ILM would do a better job? R&H had alot less time to work on the movie than ILM did on the first one and they had more cgi than the first, I'm not bashing ILM but people should take these two factors into consideration.

 

[Anubis Raptor]

Personally, I dont like talking about CGI in great movies. I like to believe that the characters are real. Knowing how the CGI images were created takes away credibility.

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~The Puniness~

 

[nocomics]

The only major issue I had with AL's Hulk was his size and he was a tad too bright,but looked good otherwise. IH was more size proportianant,but he was too dark green imo..They need to find some happy boundry..IH looked a little unproportianant in muscle mass with his size,he just looked odd at times..
I agree that IH looked out of place in some scenes,and would benefit from a better CGI company or more time to devote to it...Some of the CGI in IH looked again off or not really believable,but not terrible.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

I think they should have found a way to go in a new direction. I don't know, a combo of CGI/makeup maybe for a more realistic look. I know budget concerns probably wouldn't have permitted a totally new concept to go underway though.

 

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Personally, I dont like talking about CGI in great movies. I like to believe that the characters are real. Knowing how the CGI images were created takes away credibility.

Yeah, same. Everytime I watch ROTS, I never think of Yoda in terms of a CGI creation, he's just Yoda.

 

[The Shape]

Why are people assuming ILM would do a better job? R&H had alot less time to work on the movie than ILM did on the first one and they had more cgi than the first, I'm not bashing ILM but people should take these two factors into consideration.

But 5 years have passed now. If ILM was that advanced for the first Hulk movie, I'm sure they could have done ana amazing job on this one, even with shorter time. The process probably doesn't take as long as it used to.

And the time limit is still no excuse. If you feel R&H was given too short of a time frame, blame that on the filmmakers and the studio for not putting enough time and effort into the project.

 

[The Shape]

Yeah, same. Everytime I watch ROTS, I never think of Yoda in terms of a CGI creation, he's just Yoda.

He was a puppet, and he was better that way. I didn't think it was possible for a CGI model to look more fake than a puppet but it happened.

 

[Kirmit]

But 5 years have passed now. If ILM was that advanced for the first Hulk movie, I'm sure they could have done ana amazing job on this one, even with shorter time. The process probably doesn't take as long as it used to.

And the time limit is still no excuse. If you feel R&H was given too short of a time frame, blame that on the filmmakers and the studio for not putting enough time and effort into the project.

I have actually openly said Marvel did not give R&H enough time and do blame them for the less than perfect shots but really I was happy with most of it.

 

[ANTOINE X]

This is my manip of the hulk. I think its the right way

 

[Obi-Ron]

I would have loved seeing those iconic colors. The muted green/gray look from the movie is growing on me, though.

 

[GoblinWhirlwind]

He was a puppet, and he was better that way. I didn't think it was possible for a CGI model to look more fake than a puppet but it happened.

Yoda looked great as a puppet... back then. I know it was a great achievement and all, but it just doesn't hold up. I get much more feeling from him when he's CGI.

 

[ANTOINE X]

I also like the pale green color of the movie although the skin was way too glossy to me. Hulk is a big monster but his skin is still human like.

 

[Brian Braddock]

I also like the pale green color of the movie although the skin was way too glossy to me. Hulk is a big monster but his skin is still human like.

Definately preferred the shade of green used by R&H as opposed to the brighter one used my ILM.

Design wise, one thing I can't help thinking is that while ILM did basically their own take on the Hulk (borrowing various aspects from differnt incarnations), R&H basically used the savage Hulk as their inspiration.

From a personal standpoint, that puts R&H over ILM in by book, as the savage Hulk is my all-time favorite incarnation. It's simply iconic.

What the movie Hulk wouldve looked like had ILM adopted that mantra is anyones guess but I do know for sure that it wouldve been awesome.

 

[ANTOINE X]

Definately preferred the shade of green used by R&H as opposed to the brighter one used my ILM.

Design wise, one thing I can't help thinking is that while ILM did basically their own take on the Hulk (borrowing various aspects from differnt incarnations), R&H basically used the savage Hulk as their inspiration.

From a personal standpoint, that puts R&H over ILM in by book, as the savage Hulk is my all-time favorite incarnation. It's simply iconic.

What the movie Hulk wouldve looked like had ILM adopted that mantra is anyones guess but I do know for sure that it wouldve been awesome.

Well trying to look 100% comic book could be a trap. You have to be close of the comics as possible but not too close. If you talk about looking like the comics, for sure hulk 2008 wins hands down but if you talk about been realistic I would say in term of skin fx Hulk 2003 wins. If you check the part where he's in the desert some time I couldn't tell if it was real or not. The way they did the sand texture on his skin is tough to beat.

One thing I didnt'like in Hulk 2003 but especially in Hulk 2008 are the feet. Yes I know Hulk has big feet but weren't they too big? At some time it look like they were bigger than his body. Comics is comics. They can play with the proportion it doesn't matter, they can also do big eyes for spider-man. In the movie you have to be careful about that. If you check my manips the feet are big but not exaggerated like in the movie. So I would say you have to inspirer your self from the comics but not too much.

 

[GoblinWhirlwind]

I wish ILM would render one of TIH's stills with their CGI, so we could see how it looks.

From my calculations, it seems like everyone would be satisfied with the new Hulk's appearance if only he had Hulk 03's cgi.

 

[nocomics]

I wish ILM would render one of TIH's stills with their CGI, so we could see how it looks.

From my calculations, it seems like everyone would be satisfied with the new Hulk's appearance if only he had Hulk 03's cgi.

aye,

Like the poster said above u want to get close to comics u can,but u have to be carefull of not being over the top...I think IH feet looked off,and his skin like one poster said was way too glossy. It did'nt have the realism of skin imo,and that kindof hurt him...
I know everyone loved the rock cliff scene,but I found it to be fake looking imo..and a ripoff of king kong scene though nothing wrong with that I guess,was a great scene...

 

[Sarg92]

aye,

Like the poster said above u want to get close to comics u can,but u have to be carefull of not being over the top...I think IH feet looked off,and his skin like one poster said was way too glossy. It did'nt have the realism of skin imo,and that kindof hurt him...
I know everyone loved the rock cliff scene,but I found it to be fake looking imo..and a ripoff of king kong scene though nothing wrong with that I guess,was a great scene...

It wasn't a rip-off to King Kong. It was a big homage to Hulk:Gray

 

[Comicfan]

aye,

Like the poster said above u want to get close to comics u can,but u have to be carefull of not being over the top...I think IH feet looked off,and his skin like one poster said was way too glossy. It did'nt have the realism of skin imo,and that kindof hurt him...
I know everyone loved the rock cliff scene,but I found it to be fake looking imo..and a ripoff of king kong scene though nothing wrong with that I guess,was a great scene...

yeah, Hulk looked like he was oiled out, and not soaking from the water

 

[Syncos]

This is my manip of the hulk. I think its the right way

His feet are too tiny. They wouldn't support his weight.

 

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Not to mention his hands. They're always huge.

 

[Anubis Raptor]

His feet are too tiny. They wouldn't support his weight.

Agreed. Hulk's hands and feet are exceptionally huge proportionate to his body.