The Infinite Crisis Thread (SPOILERS)

[Sarge 2.0]

You want to see the pissant little Robin that nobody liked take down Deathstroke, the baddest badass to ever engage in badassery? What is the world coming to?

What if someone liked Jason Todd? He actually added shades of grey to a formerly unintersting character. I'd like to see him take on Deathstroke in his current state (teh uber badass), maybe not take him down.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

That, I could go for. I'd like to see Deathstroke admit that he's not half bad, then savagely beat the living crap out of him.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

That, I could go for. I'd like to see Deathstroke admit that he's not half bad, then savagely beat the living crap out of him.

I think it'd be pretty funny if Todd ended up having regenerative abilitites. We don't even know if he's even capable of dying yet.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

If that were the case, the battle would just go on forever or until they both got bored. Slade's immortal.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

I know. That's why it would be funny.

 

[Lackey]

off topic... so I take it Corp, you didn't like Smallville today?

 

[Dr.Fear]

You want to see the pissant little Robin that nobody liked take down Deathstroke, the baddest badass to ever engage in badassery? What is the world coming to?

meh his badassery is getting boring. time to get owned. byw do you think jason has some sort of enhancement? im really surprised this dude has lasted this long.

 

[Supergirl]

Oh the Psycho Pirate is a very creepy guy. And he was the only one to remember the multi verse from the last Crisis.

No he wasn't...

Lots of heroes remember the Crisis, but not the specifics. PP isn't even the only one to remember the specifics though.

Harbinger, Pariah and I think the Spectre all remembered everything (H and P for sure did). Donna Troy now remembers it (See Return of Donna Troy #4). It's safe to say, E2 Supes, E2 Lois, E3 Alex and EP Superboy all remember it

 

[jaydawg]

Jason Todd did die though. Ollie met him in Heaven during Kevin Smith's Quiver run.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

off topic... so I take it Corp, you didn't like Smallville today?

Not so much, no. It would've been really nice if the actor who played Aquaman didn't give such an excrutiatingly trite, surfer-dude performance. I couldn't stand his constantly saying "bro." I'm not much of a fan of Tom Welling's portrayal of Clark Kent either, but damn, I was wishing from the moment that "AC" (blurgh) opened his mouth that Clark would beat the living crap out of him. No such luck, though. I doubt I'll bother watching Smallville anymore until the season finale, when the next thing that actually progresses the status quo a tiny bit will occur. "Professor Milton Fine" was, however, quite cool. I'll admit that much.

meh his badassery is getting boring. time to get owned. byw do you think jason has some sort of enhancement? im really surprised this dude has lasted this long.

I'm not. Winick likes him. The same Winick who somehow thought it was believable for Batman and a half-crippled Nightwing to defeat Amazo. Clearly, the rules of logic hold no sway in his world.

 

[Bat-Mantis]

Jason Todd did die though. Ollie met him in Heaven during Kevin Smith's Quiver run.

But it was a passing scene and it can be overlooked and thus wiped from continuity... sort of like that whole Max Lord Cyborg thing. I mean, we just got a visual reference of Jason swinging around in heaven, then Ollie mentions him, right? If it was an important event in Quiver, it would be different. DC can just say, "eh. Hypertime or something" and make like it didn't happen.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Barry Allen also showed up in Heaven in Quiver and claimed no knowledge of "Wally's Speed Force." You can explain that with a bit of fan-*******, I suppose, but it still seems like Kevin Smith just screwed up a little.

 

[Lackey]

Barry Allen also showed up in Heaven in Quiver and claimed no knowledge of "Wally's Speed Force." You can explain that with a bit of fan-*******, I suppose, but it still seems like Kevin Smith just screwed up a little.

yeah it's really easy to explain it... there's no definitive version of Heaven in the DCU. This was Ollie's Heaven.

It should be pointed out that there's no definitive version of Heaven in the MU either... I'm sure the next time a writer decides to use Heaven in a Marvel story, Heaven and God won't look exactly like they did in Waid's FF.

 

[jaydawg]

Barry Allen also showed up in Heaven in Quiver and claimed no knowledge of "Wally's Speed Force." You can explain that with a bit of fan-*******, I suppose, but it still seems like Kevin Smith just screwed up a little.

Oh yeah, totally forgot about that moment. I was going what the hell when he said that. The scene with Jason is he's swinging by and Husk Ollie says "Is that Robin?" and old Ollie (whose mind is in Husk Ollie's body) says "One of them." I suppose you could say hypertime, but still, it would be nice to for it to be mentioned.

 

[Dr.Fear]

Not so much, no. It would've been really nice if the actor who played Aquaman didn't give such an excrutiatingly trite, surfer-dude performance. I couldn't stand his constantly saying "bro." I'm not much of a fan of Tom Welling's portrayal of Clark Kent either, but damn, I was wishing from the moment that "AC" (blurgh) opened his mouth that Clark would beat the living crap out of him. No such luck, though. I doubt I'll bother watching Smallville anymore until the season finale, when the next thing that actually progresses the status quo a tiny bit will occur. "Professor Milton Fine" was, however, quite cool. I'll admit that much.

I'm not. Winick likes him. The same Winick who somehow thought it was believable for Batman and a half-crippled Nightwing to defeat Amazo. Clearly, the rules of logic hold no sway in his world.

there will never be a good action scene in smallville all it is clark shoving someone into a wall or something.

 

[jaydawg]

At least most episodes dont have guys aspiring to be Paul Walker in them.

 

[Dr.Fear]

At least most episodes dont have guys aspiring to be Paul Walker in them.

..........ok


i stopped watching the show after season 2 and on and off again until i didnt watch it completely. the show was just redundant. youll think with loeb writing some eps, the show would be more interesting. plus tom wellington never cut it as clark kent. i wish the show was more like the book that came out last year about a kid who really has superman's powers i forgot the title.

anywho back on topic.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

yeah it's really easy to explain it... there's no definitive version of Heaven in the DCU. This was Ollie's Heaven.

That doesn't explain why Barry didn't know anything about the Speed Force, though. He merged with the Speed Force when he died, like all speedsters do, and went back in time to throw out the lightning bolt that activated Wally's powers (or his own, I'm not exactly sure).

I just choose to think that Barry was messing with Ollie about the Speed Force. Why, I have no idea, but that's my explanation. And the Speed Force and Heaven somehow intersect, enabling Barry to both be a part of the Speed Force and walk around Ollie's Heaven.

 

[Lackey]

That doesn't explain why Barry didn't know anything about the Speed Force, though. He merged with the Speed Force when he died, like all speedsters do, and went back in time to throw out the lightning bolt that activated Wally's powers (or his own, I'm not exactly sure).

I just choose to think that Barry was messing with Ollie about the Speed Force. Why, I have no idea, but that's my explanation. And the Speed Force and Heaven somehow intersect, enabling Barry to both be a part of the Speed Force and walk around Ollie's Heaven.

sure it explains it... when you're dealing with the afterlife, there are so, so many variables. It might not have been Barry at all or it might have been only an aspect of Barry.

Just look at ICBINTJL when they went to "hell" and ran into Tora...were they really in hell? was that really Tora? were they really making hamburgers?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't know about Tora and Hell, but I have to believe they really were making hamburgers. My whole sense of reality falls apart if they weren't.

 

[Manwithoutpeer]

I have some infinite related q's if anyone can help:

Did the Rann/Thanagar mini involve 1 or more of the GL's to any extent?
Who is Polaris and who's Rogue is he?
What are Bizarro's powers and origin?
What is the short version how COIE made it possible that these alternate heros exist?

 

[Anubis]

Kyle Rayner and Kilowog were in it. The reteraformed Thanagar.

 

[Supergirl]

I have some infinite related q's if anyone can help:

Did the Rann/Thanagar mini involve 1 or more of the GL's to any extent?
Who is Polaris and who's Rogue is he?
What are Bizarro's powers and origin?
What is the short version how COIE made it possible that these alternate heros exist?

Polaris is a GL rogue first, but recently appeared in Supes.
Bizarro has basically all the powers of Supes with two exceptions, instead of heat vision he has ice vision, and instead of arctic breath he has fire breath. I don't know his origin though
And can you rephrase that last one? I don't know what you're trying to ask

 

[regwec]

Bizarro also has spotlight vision instead of X-ray vision.

 

[jim lee's bat]

anyone think that they'll switch back to pre crisis characters

personally I do just based on Mark Waids comments about theyll be getting rid of all the darkness in the Universe and that Batman's been a jerk in recent years and they were gonna fix that sounds like the Earth 2 folks might take over