Justice League The Justice League Casting Thread

[Changeling]

Rockstar- Justice isn't that great of a story, I don't think it'd translate that well on the big screen. That story doesn't compare to the Avengers story. Gina Carano is also a very very bad choice, we need a respectable actress. Bradley Cooper as flash isn't bad, but we def can do much better. Jon Hamm I support for sure, not a fan of your Superman choice. I'm so glad you aren't in charge at wb lol sorry we agree on certain things but the idea of separating Henry cavill's superman from the justice league movie makes no ****ing sense, I don't know why anyone would support that idea, there's no reason to seperate those universes, it just makes things way more complicated than they Should be. Your reasons make no sense from a financial standpoint, if mos is a hit there is NO reason why he shouldnt be in justice league. wtf would anyone think that, after avengers made a billion dollars after introucing their characters beforehand. Im sorry but your ideas are not marketable at all, your ideal movie I don't think would make much money and that's what wb is about, making money

 

[Rockstar]

You don't understand the financial aspect at all.

And what characters has JL introduced beforehand?

Man of Steel isn't even out yet. You can't gage it's supposed financial success yet and what it could bring to JL.

JL is targeted for 2015. They aren't introducing the cast in solo films beforehand. It isn't the Avengers model.


I'll copy my reply from the other thread, it's relevant here:

The problem is you guys are assuming the WB/DC plan for these characters will fold out like Marvel when clearly no evidence exists that this is the case.


Justice League will very likely be a self-contained franchise driven by the studio, especially given by the fact that they're rushing it for a 2015 release.


In fact, I'm willing to bet this question will be raised today at the Man of Steel panel with Snyder and Cavill.... whether Man of Steel will be tied to Justice League (willing to bet Man of Steel will be a self-contained franchise).


Don't forget Snyder's previous response:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uEgIONT2vo


The odds aren't really in the favor of a 'shared universe.' WB, in it's current state, isn't even set up to pull it off logistically. It's not Marvel Studios.

Nolan was really the only chance of pulling the franchises together under one direction, and that's over now.

Rockstar- Justice isn't that great of a story, I don't think it'd translate that well on the big screen.

I never said anything about translating the story, but just keeping the essense of the Ross artwork and interpretation.

It's very much the antithesis of the grounded, and gritty approach used in BB-TDKR and Man of Steel, so it makes the separation more defined.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

If they're really doing a JL movie, Henry Cavill will have to play Superman. If MoS is a success, they arent gonna have ANOTHER actor play him, especially since the MoS sequel will likely be coming out within a year or two of JL. No way they have two actors playing the same iconic character more or less simultaneously.

And there will be other characters introduced, either in their own movies or as cameos, before JL. You dont invest that kind of money (300 million +) in a movie without testing the waters first.

 

[Rockstar]

And back in reality it's confirmed they're aiming to release Justice League in 2015 and there's no DC films planned until then.

There's not gonna be any solo films. The evidence is mounting that JL will be self-contained.

If they're really doing a JL movie, Henry Cavill will have to play Superman. If MoS is a success, they arent gonna have ANOTHER actor play him, especially since the MoS sequel will likely be coming out within a year or two of JL. No way they have two actors playing the same iconic character more or less simultaneously. .

They aren't going to wait around till next summer to see how MoS does. If they want JL out by 2015, the movement begins now.

And there will be other characters introduced, either in their own movies or as cameos, before JL. You dont invest that kind of money (300 million +) in a movie without testing the waters first .

Test the waters like they did before releasing Green Lantern and almost doing Justice League:Mortal.

 

[Majik1387]

There's not evidence making it seem self-contained, only it being number one priority.

 

[shauner111]

You're saying it like it's confirmed. It isn't. They're aiming for a 2015 release just like they "confirmed" Nolans involvement in both the Batman reboot and JL. They like to talk. It may come out later than that.


Also i still stand by the idea of just using Cavill after MOS. 2 Supermans make no sense. Until Snyder announces that his Superman is seperate, i will believe Cavills doing it.


Even if they don't have their solo films beforehand, it's still not confirmed. Plans change frequently with WB and we may see a couple of those movies first.

 

[Rockstar]

I'll give you that plans do change from time to time. Nolan leaving was a huge change.


But trying to shoehorn the Man of Steel franchise into Justice League could be a mess without Christopher Nolan involved.

Check out the Man of Steel comic-con footage. It's very Nolan-esque.



Before Chris walked off the Justice League project, I could believe Man of Steel could be shoehorned in with his direction... but now?

It could be very problematic.

 

[TheWatcher]

Yes it's Nolan-esque, but the story is about an alien. Not a man in a suit. It can fit better than Nolans Batman.

" After a few other fairly familiar questions, Snyder is asked about the possibility of Justice League and Superman/Batman. "We know that Superman is the jewel in the DC crown and what we're really trying to do is get his house in order - and then, who knows what's possible?"

Quote from CC

 

[combocaz]

Well Cavill may very well end up in the JLA movie if MoS does really well but snyder hasnt confirmed or denied it. So its very much up to how well MoS will do in the box office which may mean if MoS bombs then jla may be put on the shelf for the time being and another fail for DC. Im really hoping MoS kills the box office.

Will Superman get into a Batman movie or Justice League at some point? Snyder says that Superman is the jewel in the DC crown and they are just making sure to keep the house in order. But after that who knows what’s possible.

 

[combocaz]

Tyler Hoechlin - Batman

 

[Rockstar]

Yes it's Nolan-esque, but the story is about an alien. Not a man in a suit. It can fit better than Nolans Batman.

" After a few other fairly familiar questions, Snyder is asked about the possibility of Justice League and Superman/Batman. "We know that Superman is the jewel in the DC crown and what we're really trying to do is get his house in order - and then, who knows what's possible?"

Quote from CC

He was just dodging the question and turning it back to Man of Steel.

It wasn't any type of answer.

Tyler Hoechlin - Batman

No.


And stop watching Teen Wolf.

 

[TheWatcher]

There is no evidence supporting either theory. We get it. Get back to casting.

Oh God I sound like an admin.

 

[Rockstar]

If they intend for it to connect from Man of Steel, they're really screwing themselves by not having the MoS writers doing the script.

MoS sets up some major storylines; the world's fear of someone superpowered, the Govt VS superpowered beings, and the approach is very grounded through the lense of what if this happened today in our real world.

Justice League would really need to maintain that and build on it if they want it to stem from MoS.

The loss of Chris Nolan from the JL project is troublesome though. MoS is very much his style, in writing, story, characterization and approach.

JL can't be like Green Lantern in tone and approach and still connect with MoS without it being a complete mess.


If they want a connection, they really need to keep the same creative team on both projects.

 

[solidsnake86]

If they intend for it to connect from Man of Steel, they're really screwing themselves by not having the MoS writers doing the script.

MoS sets up some major storylines; the world's fear of someone superpowered, the Govt VS superpowered beings, and the approach is very grounded through the lense of what if this happened today in our real world.

Justice League would really need to maintain that and build on it if they want it to stem from MoS.

The loss of Chris Nolan from the JL project is troublesome though. MoS is very much his style, in writing, story, characterization and approach.

JL can't be like Green Lantern in tone and approach and still connect with MoS without it being a complete mess.



If they want a connection, they really need to keep the same creative team on both projects.

Your being ridiculous, do you honestly think the writer of JL hasnt had access to the man of steel script or watched the nolan films.

The avengers didnt even necessarily need those easter eggs in the individual films in order to succeed. Which, looking at the box office will tell you, a lot more people showed up to that film than any of the solo films. In fact all those cameo's were nothing more than fan service.

You gave a story point yourself that a writer could build upon, the gov't vs superpowered beings. WB is high on this realistic approach right now, I don't see how that would be any different when it comes to JL.

 

[Rockstar]

WB is set on it?

More like Chris Nolan was set on it.

WB gave us Green Lantern.

Without Chris or anyone from MoS involved in JL, there's no reason to assume the approach, tone and style will be consistent and connecting.

 

[solidsnake86]

There is also no reason to say that it wont be, see how that works?

Look no further than the Green Arrow tv show for the "realistic" take. Hollywood has plenty of capable writers. Hell marvel goes through them like a person changes there clothes.

You just have this fixation with it not being possible without Nolan's involvement, when really, anyone has the ability to look at his work, and for lack of a better term, copy it.

You also have no way of knowing whether WB wants to get Goyer or Snyder involved. I could see Snyder jumping at the chance to direct justice league if offered.

 

[Rockstar]

If they wanted Goyer involved in developing the script, he would have been. Instead they went with Will Beall.

Logically, Goyer would have to be attached on the treatment from the start to develop the approach and conceptualize it, as he did for MoS with Chris.

Look no further than the Green Arrow tv show for the "realistic" take. Hollywood has plenty of capable writers. Hell marvel goes through them like a person changes there clothes.

"Arrow" has nothing to do with anyone at the Warners Film Division. It doesn't prove anything about the studio's preferences.

 

[Sub-Zero]

If they intend for it to connect from Man of Steel, they're really screwing themselves by not having the MoS writers doing the script.

MoS sets up some major storylines; the world's fear of someone superpowered, the Govt VS superpowered beings, and the approach is very grounded through the lense of what if this happened today in our real world.

Justice League would really need to maintain that and build on it if they want it to stem from MoS.

The loss of Chris Nolan from the JL project is troublesome though. MoS is very much his style, in writing, story, characterization and approach.

JL can't be like Green Lantern in tone and approach and still connect with MoS without it being a complete mess.


If they want a connection, they really need to keep the same creative team on both projects.

how? he didn't write mos. david goyer did, and nolan pitched it to wb for him, then jona nolan did a few rewrites before handing the script over to snyder. nolan's a good facilitator of these movies. he was a fan of donner superman, and used that methodology for the dark knight trilogy, so it's fitting that he's godfathering the project. he's even gone on record saying its snyder's project, and he's just there to help.

plus it doesn't really matter about solo movie creative teams being on board jl. avengers didn't do that and they had much success. put the project into the right hands and they'll do it justice(no pun intended ).

here's my fancast. nothing to write home about, or original, but would be cool if it happened:

superman: henry cavill
batman:josh brolin if bale doesn't do it.
wonder woman: taylor cole
flash:ryan gosling
green lantern:joshua jackson
aquaman:charlie hunnam
martian manhunter: cgi with the voice of lance henriksen

 

[Rockstar]

Goyer conceptualized the style and approach for MoS with Nolan's guidance, they developed it together

Snyder even had several meeting with Nolan and his wife during the pre-production stages on how to handle this project.


This is why the film looks and feels less like a typical Snyder film and more like Batman Begins.

WB said from day one of this project that Christopher Nolan would 'mentor' the director's approach, and it shows.

 

[protocida]

This thread took a nosedive, huh?

Anyway, my take on the cast.

Henry Cavill as Superman/Clark Kent.

Michael Fassbender as Batman/Bruce Wayne.

Olga Kurylenko as Wonder Woman/Diana.

Chris Pine as Flash/Barry Allen.

Ryan Reynolds (if sequel) or Bradley Cooper (if reboot) as Green Lantern Hal Jordan.

 

[sethypants]

If they intend for it to connect from Man of Steel, they're really screwing themselves by not having the MoS writers doing the script.

MoS sets up some major storylines; the world's fear of someone superpowered, the Govt VS superpowered beings, and the approach is very grounded through the lense of what if this happened today in our real world.

Justice League would really need to maintain that and build on it if they want it to stem from MoS.

The loss of Chris Nolan from the JL project is troublesome though. MoS is very much his style, in writing, story, characterization and approach.

JL can't be like Green Lantern in tone and approach and still connect with MoS without it being a complete mess.


If they want a connection, they really need to keep the same creative team on both projects.

Thats bull actually. Joss Whedon was not incharge of the screenplay except for Avengers.
They're not screwing themselves as long as they get a good writer like Will Beall to set a tone that would fit into the universe it would be fine.
Obviously if they want to have the film lead into Justice League they would have to make sure it fits the canon in Man of Steel. I don't believe in the in Nolans we trust mentality. Sure it might make WB a little more hesitant about going forth but judging from the reactions of MOS and Green Arrow, its giving WB alot of confidence on the upcoming projects.
Kevin Feige was the only one involved in being the same creative team for avengers and you can tell he had very little input in all the films because all of the films looks so different tonally. Captain America, Thor and Ironman are all vastly different in their tone. Each of the film's director set a specific tone for that film.

And sure why not, give Christopher Nolans all the credit and give Zack Snyder no credit at all.

 

[sethypants]

This thread took a nosedive, huh?

Anyway, my take on the cast.

Henry Cavill as Superman/Clark Kent.

Michael Fassbender as Batman/Bruce Wayne.

Olga Kurylenko as Wonder Woman/Diana.

Chris Pine as Flash/Barry Allen.

Ryan Reynolds (if sequel) or Bradley Cooper (if reboot) as Green Lantern Hal Jordan.

Just certain few individuals leading the thread into chaos.

 

[TheWatcher]

AHEMRockstarAHEM

 

[batman44]

Lol!!

 

[Rockstar]

Marvel Studios is structured completely differently than Warner Bros. You can't compare this to them.

MS had a lot of internal connection between their projects and Kevin Feige.


The relationship between Man of Steel and this Justice League project is nowhere close to that. It should be, but it's not. They are two completely separate projects with different creative teams thus far.

It's still early in the game, but the setup isn't promising Unless they gave Beall orders to specifically write Cavill's Superman (in that specific world) and have contact with the MoS creative team, JL will have a different Superman.