The Last of Us The Last Of Us 2

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I just finished it a few minutes ago. I think it was a good game, maybe even great but there were some problems in it. I won't spoil anything but it could have used with maybe a better side story than what we got. I know what they were going for with it but they did not endear me to that particular plot like they could have. I am guessing an inevitable sequel will pick it up and give some closure to it.

And my one major gripe in the story is
Alice. I get why they made you indirectly responsible for her death but in general I think that the "kill the dog" trope should itself die. No other dogs were necessary to kill in the game and could be avoided. As if Mel's death was not terrible enough on her own. It was more than enough to make the point. Killing innocent animals just bothers me. Even the horses were bad but at least those were unavoidable in advancing the story.
 
I don't get why people separate violence against animals from everything else. The game is certainly cheaply manipulative, but animals is a special case for some reason.
 
Because animals are not people. People can make decisions and choices about what they do. The vast majority of player-involved death of people in the game are people who put themselves in that position. No one gives an animal a choice to go into a dangerous situation.
 
Teelie said:
Because animals are not people. People can make decisions and choices about what they do. The vast majority of player-involved death of people in the game are people who put themselves in that position. No one gives an animal a choice to go into a dangerous situation.
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It doesn't matter if you're hungry or need to protect your or someone else's life.
 
In response to the debate some pages back if Joel's choice poses a question of morality:

I think some are taking the word "vaccine" too literally. I believe it's just a short-hand for "a cure that works by preventing future infections in a healthy person". And that's exactly what the mutated cordyceps does for Ellie (also I remind you this is still a fictional infection even though it's inspired by a real one). It's quite possible that any number of things could go wrong with this plan because the Fireflies aren't exactly the strongest most well run organization. But what if in the world of the Last of Us they are the best option left? Seemingly the only choice if humanity is to have a shred of hope.

Joel saves Ellie for emotional reasons, although he doesn't believe in a cure either. Even so, I believe that there was a real possibility for a cure. And maybe the Fireflies really were the best bet to make that happen, as bad as they were. There wasn't much hope, but Joel traded that little spark of hope for a daughter. My point is, it is morally questionable if Joel did the right thing. People saying that "the cure would be almost impossible to mass-produce and distribute" are missing the point imo. For humans living in such a desperate situation, even a one-in-a-million chance to end it all could mean everything. And who knows, maybe those human's who have adapted to this living environment could be tough and resourceful enough to pull it off
 
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I finally finished this, took me a couple of weeks... really liked it, I would give it a 9/10.

I didn't read any spoilers before playing, but because of all the "controversy" online I just knew Joel would die. Yeah it sucks that his death was so early on in the game, but it made sense because of what he did. (Imo) Maybe that's one thing I would've changed, give us some more time with Joel before killing him off. The Lev storyline or Abby's "buff" appearance didn't bother me at all, but apparently that was a big deal to some people...

I hated that you were "forced" to play as Abby at first, but after a while I started to like her. (And that was the point I guess) I might actually prefer the Abby part of the game...

in that final fight at the end, I didn't even want to try to kill Abby... so I was glad Ellie let her go. It would've been nice if they gave you a choice. Like "you've seen Abby's side of the story, do you really still want to kill her?" And then it's just up to the player how the story ends.

I definitely wouldn't mind playing as Abby again in part 3.

Teelie said:
Because animals are not people. People can make decisions and choices about what they do. The vast majority of player-involved death of people in the game are people who put themselves in that position. No one gives an animal a choice to go into a dangerous situation.
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It's weird but I also felt bad about killing those dogs. (even though they're not even real) Killing people in the game, not so much :oldrazz:
 
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I finished the game yesterday. I think it was even better than the first game. The story was great and it wasn't what I expected. Gameplay didn't feel much different but I really liked the news things like crawling and hiding in grass. It made the stealth gameplay more fun. The game felt maybe a bit too long. It took me around 44 hours.

I didn't like Abby at first but my opinion changed and it was interesting to see the events from another perspective. I'm not sure if I liked the ending.
 
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Its not surprising but good for Sony that Ghost of Tsushima and this one got a lot of nominations.
 
So, I finally bought this on Black Friday and I can’t seem to play more than five minutes without it crashing and displaying error CE-34878-0.

@askplaystation told me to...

0) have software/game up to date
1) re-dl the content
2) re build database
3) initialize database

...and nothing had made it better. The PS support merely told me to “restore licenses” and that didn’t do anything either.

I can play Ghost or Spider-Man, with zero issues. And then this game will utterly crash and crash and crash. I want to punch a wall.

For reference; I have the Nathan Drake PS4 Bundle edition, original HD (never has had issues ever or currently with other games), and only use an external for games I don’t play anymore.

Can anyone help?
 
As I've said in previous post, I'm very late to this, just really started it this month since buying in December and slowly making my way through it, but HUGELY impressed by it in virtually every sense. I'm notoriously 'bad' at games anyway, in terms of speed / progression, but I think I've barely scratched the surface here, in terms of 'depth' and story. I thought the first one was dark & emotional, but this is one is on another level.
 
I'm still waiting for it to go on sale. But I'm not in a hurry to play it. Those clickers are stressful for me.
 
I actually found myself having more trouble with the human enemies in TLOU2 than the clickers simply because there seemed to be more human enemies than infected overall, but the
Rat King
was the most intense boss fight in either TLOU game.
 
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