"The Living Daylights" Is...Awesome.

[Agentsands77]

Or maybe there's some things you haven't noticed yet.

If you'd point them out to me, I'd be more than happy to take a look.

Seven movies and you can only think of three moments?

I can think of many more.

LIVE AND LET DIE, when he's with Rosie Carver. "You wouldn't kill me... not after what we've done..." "I certainly wouldn't have killed you before." And I believe he's willing to kill her. He's also fairly nasty throughout the rest of the film, and VERY manipulating.

THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN. His meeting with Lazaar. "Speak now, or forever hold your peace/piece." His confronting Andrea Anders, where he slaps her up and treats her really brutally. And then there's the very cold climactic shoot-out with Scaramanga.

THE SPY WHO LOVED ME. When he's going to meet Fekkesh, he swings the girl into the path of the bullet, then knocks the thug off the building after he's already told the information. Later, his brutality with Stromberg is quite shocking.

FOR YOUR EYES ONLY. He pushes Locque off the cliff, as mentioned before. Quite brutal.

He softens for OCTOPUSSY and A VIEW TO A KILL.

 

[Catman]

If you'd point them out to me, I'd be more than happy to take a look.

I'm just speaking in general. I'm sure there's stuff you overlooked. We all do till we've read something so many times that we notice everything we were supposed to notice. As far as Brosnan is concerned, like you said, none of the Bonds are 100% faithful to the character in the book but they all have certain elements. Also, you have to remember that Brosnan is the Bond of the `90s. Times change, man. And, Flemings novels have stuff that wouldn't fly today. Like chapter 5 of Live and Let Die is called ****** Heaven.

I can think of many more.

LIVE AND LET DIE, when he's with Rosie Carver. "You wouldn't kill me... not after what we've done..." "I certainly wouldn't have killed you before." And I believe he's willing to kill her. He's also fairly nasty throughout the rest of the film, and VERY manipulating.

THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN. His meeting with Lazaar. "Speak now, or forever hold your peace/piece." His confronting Andrea Anders, where he slaps her up and treats her really brutally. And then there's the very cold climactic shoot-out with Scaramanga.

THE SPY WHO LOVED ME. When he's going to meet Fekkesh, he swings the girl into the path of the bullet, then knocks the thug off the building after he's already told the information. Later, his brutality with Stromberg is quite shocking.

FOR YOUR EYES ONLY. He pushes Locque off the cliff, as mentioned before. Quite brutal.

He softens for OCTOPUSSY and A VIEW TO A KILL.

Now, lets look at all the silly stuff he's done. He snowboarded to Beach Boys music. When he flipped a car it made a stupid noise. Everything in Moonraker. Hiding the plane inside a fake horses ass. Smiling at Naomi in TSWLM during the chase scene. Did I mention everything in Moonraker? In AVTAK he slept with May Day yet cooked for Stacey then put her to sleep. Was I the only one who felt like smacking him? Or maybe he just forgot his viagra that day And, what about his fight scenes? What was up with the judo chop? Couldn't he just punch someone in the face or kick them in the balls? He just had to do the judo chop.

 

[Agentsands77]

As far as Brosnan is concerned, like you said, none of the Bonds are 100% faithful to the character in the book but they all have certain elements.

Sure, but I think Brosnan's further removed than most of the other Bonds.

Also, you have to remember that Brosnan is the Bond of the `90s. Times change, man. And, Flemings novels have stuff that wouldn't fly today. Like chapter 5 of Live and Let Die is called ****** Heaven.

Sure, but hell, Craig was able to get a lot of Fleming Bond attitude in there without causing people to throw their arms up in outrage.

Now, lets look at all the silly stuff he's done.

I'm not denying Moore's Bond was anything more than a mostly-lighthearted superhero with a strong comic bent to his films. But you said you didn't buy him as a coldblooded killer. I said I did, and so I defended that aspect of the character. Otherwise, Moore is clearly the most farcical Bond of the franchise.

 

[Catman]

you didn't buy him as a coldblooded killer.

I still don't, dude. He had one serious film and a couple of moments here and there but for the most part he was this happy-go-lucky guy. Which was fine at the time. We all hate Moonraker, but adjusted to inflation its the 7th highest grossing Bond film. The general public loved that stuff. I have nothing against Moore. The Spy Who Loved Me is one of my favorite Bond films. I just don't buy the guy as a cold-blooded killer. He was the funny Bond.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

His real qualifications? Maybe that he's the man's cousin and discussed the character. I have a theory that the reason Connery is so AWESOME in the role is because he actually met Fleming and had a chance to ask questions.

Connery's Bond has less to do with Ian Fleming than it does with Terrence Young. A lot of people who worked on Dr No even believed Connery was just doing an impression of Young the whole time.