The MATRIX Appreciation Thread

[Green Goblin 1964]

I think the matrix films had some brilliantly planned out and scripted themes that a lot of writing uses but it used them in different ways. However the story becomes so driven by the themes without anything really appealing to the outside public in it other than sci-fi thrills and well-incorporated special effects. Yes there is a lot BEHIND the story, but nowadays the style used to present these themes can seem crude and outdated. Whether you like the Matrix comes down to whether you like to really dwelve into your stories and you don't need appealing characters to do so, or whether you constantly need something vibrant to keep yourself interested. It's opinion, basically, so stop having flame wars and just get over yourselves.

Flame wars?

We didn't even finish Round 1!

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[StrainedEyes]

The fist one was awesome. The second was meh. The third was bleh.

Seriously, I wanted to see Neo eff up the machines really good, and he didn't. The whole climax that the first movie alluded to never happened. Seriously, I want to know what the crap they were thinking when they wrote Matrix Revolutions.

The movies weren't about "effing" the machines up.

The only problem I have with 2 and 3 is that Neo, Trinity and Morpheus end up getting put on the back burner. Way too much time is spent on that general and Zion.
I think there is a really brilliant 3 hour movie hiddden somewhere within Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions. Edit out one hour of extra characters and some plot themes, mainly revolving around Zion. And you have an epic movie focused on Neo, Trinity and Morpheus's journey. Which is what it really should have been.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I love all the Matrix movies...that is right, ALL 3!!!

The Matrix - Phenominal...best Sci-Fi movie since the 80's.

The Matrix Reloaded - A great sequel that adds to the lore of the Matrix well, and takes a more artistic approach in the story development as opposed to commercializing it.

The Matrix Revolutions- Fantastic conclusion.

I like Reloaded and Revolutions together almost as much as the first Matrix. Smith is one of my favorite movie villains ever.

Great movies

 

[bullets]

yeah the sequels werent what people expected but there were some really good action sequences

 

[DeaDheaD]

I would have appreciated a decent finish

 

[Green Goblin 1964]

I love all the Matrix movies...that is right, ALL 3!!!

The Matrix - Phenominal...best Sci-Fi movie since the 80's.

The Matrix Reloaded - A great sequel that adds to the lore of the Matrix well, and takes a more artistic approach in the story development as opposed to commercializing it.

The Matrix Revolutions- Fantastic conclusion.

I like Reloaded and Revolutions together almost as much as the first Matrix. Smith is one of my favorite movie villains ever.

Great movies

Me too, all 3 were SOOO AWESOME!

Just one lil complaint is...Neo's eyes get screwed :/

But other than that really GREAT Franchise WOOO!

 

[Spider-Fan]

Me too, all 3 were SOOO AWESOME!

Just one lil complaint is...Neo's eyes get screwed :/

But other than that really GREAT Franchise WOOO!

Neo's eyes getting damaged was neccessary. I thought it worked well.

My one complaint about the last two is Morpheus held his own against that Agent way too well. Other than that, awesome

 

[dark_b]

IMO the matrix trilogy has one of the deepest storyes ever.
but i understand if you dont like it.

i suggest that people should go on a matrix forum and spend like 2 hours and read some threads. if you stil think the same then OK.
but it sometimes pisses me off when i see those classic american people who got used to brainless movies from bay and then they say stuff like: it was all about special effects and kung fu.

 

[Sam Fisher]

Matrix: Totally awasome. Looks horrible on the PSP though

Matrix Reloaded: Too much action, not enough story.

Matrix Revolutions: Kinda liked it.

The Animatrix: Have the DVD. Never got around to watching it though.

 

[ord0g]

The Matrix absolutely blew me away when I saw it back in 2000. I had no idea about the movie until a friend gave it to me and told me to check it out...and man, I was not disappointed. Since then I've probably watched it (the first one) about 30 odd times and it never gets boring for me. I loved how the Wachowski's incorporated a lot from anime, especially Ghost in the Shell.

 

[Sentinel X]

To people saying this film will be forgotten...its concidered a classic by a lot of people ...plus its revolutionary filming techniques have been used over and over again in action films, I can list about 20 films from the top of my head that have used "the matrix" technique.

I LOVED this first one a lot, the sequels are awesome!. The first is just amazing, its smart and has action...I think animatrix was also AMAZING
This is def up there in my top 5 fav films of all time



i just rewatched 2 and 3 recently and its really cool. Esp if its back to back!

 

[Jimothy]

The second and third movies were not as good as they should have been, but they are enjoyable. The Matrix is a great sci-fi film that deserves all the praise it gets.

Most people don't like the Matrix because the internet told them not to.

 

[Sentinel X]

^^Most people love the movie, but on SHH a lot of people don't seem to like it as much as the general public. SHH posters seem to be bigger Terminator fans (which is still cool, cause T2 is just awesome )

 

[Jimothy]

^^Most people love the movie, but on SHH a lot of people don't seem to like it as much as the general public. SHH posters seem to be bigger Terminator fans (which is still cool, cause T2 is just awesome )

Wait, what does Terminator have to do with the Matrix?

 

[Sentinel X]

Nothing really, its just that they're both concidered the bigger and most influencial of sci-fi films and people here seem to like Terminator movies more.

 

[xwolverine2]

IMO the matrix trilogy has one of the deepest storyes ever.
but i understand if you dont like it.

Yes i think alot of people pass it off for being sci-fi special effects trash....

When in reality this is the movie i end up comparing to in terms of best sci-fi story...

Terminator was great, it just didnt have anywhere near the depth and mythology of the matrix.

 

[nocomics]

I enjoyed the Matrix films to a certain extent,as the lost a little lust with each film.

Matrix: introduced the masses to bullet-time effects. Tag along a good plot,and overall theme and uniqueness of the film. It was good.

Matrix Reloaded: Had good action sequences,evolution of neo,good visuals..downfall of the movie is the same. Building up Neo to this jesus/superman figure didnt really go well. They built is powers up to fast from matrix to Reloaded. Story was well, jumpy and confusing. Neo was made to be too confused,brawn no brains(aka superman).

Matrix Revolutions: Was a decent conclusion to the trilogy. Not much really to say it ended the trilogy well enough. I guess one issue was when neo/trinity were leaving and saying there goodbye's they didnt have trinity or morphious wish eachother well,but yet had trinity and one guy hug(forgot his freakin name). I hated that part for some reason, trinity and morphious was there from begining,and yet they didnt have a farewell talk,lame imo...O, last thing I also really didnt like the subway scene was weak and lame imo..

*overall was a decent trilogy. The middle movie of a tilogy is what makes or breaks it imo..It has to flow the story from first and connect it with the final one,and Reloaded just didnt really connect all 3 of them very well.

 

[xwolverine2]

Matrix: Totally awasome. Looks horrible on the PSP though

Matrix Reloaded: Too much action, not enough story.

Matrix Revolutions: Kinda liked it.

The Animatrix: Have the DVD. Never got around to watching it though.

The Animatrix was amazing....

it dealt more with different looks into different things inside the matrix...

 

[Jimothy]

Reloaded and Revolutions should have just been one movie, like they planned from the beginning.

 

[xwolverine2]

Reloaded and Revolutions should have just been one movie, like they planned from the beginning.

how would that make it any better?

it wouldve been horrible that way..... all the details gone...

it wouldve just been one fight scene after another... like ultraviolet

 

[blind_fury]

Anyone remember the first time seeing this in the movie theater in 1999?

The Matrix haters can go f--k themselves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WouklLX_zE

 

[CFE]

Anyone remember the first time seeing this in the movie theater in 1999?

The Matrix haters can go f--k themselves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WouklLX_zE

Yeah...you were sold the second you saw Neo "wake up"

It was unreal...I mean sure anime's already touched upon a lot of the aspects of the "Matrix" but damn ... bringing those bullet-time effects to life in the way they did was amazing.

And the story thread of the original was great as well. The story behind the sequels does feel a bit forced, but the first one is superb.

And while it got melo-dramatic and preachy a good chunk of the time, the Wachowski's obviously know how to write dialogue.

CFE

 

[Jimothy]

how would that make it any better?

it wouldve been horrible that way..... all the details gone...

it wouldve just been one fight scene after another... like ultraviolet

The two movies, Reloaded especially, suffer from a lot of unnecessary plot points and scenes that make the movies feel less cohesive. The action scenes you speak of were probably the way they were just to fill time.

The Waschowskis intended it to be one movie, and from previous experience original concepts are usually better than when writers are told to change it. For example, Raimi's original version of Spider-Man 3 would likely have been a better movie than the one we got.

 

[bullets]

yeah the matrix was so good the sequles maybe didnt have a chance up living up to the expectations because the first was such a mindtrip

 

[blind_fury]

Why do people hate this movie as if it raped their mother?

"The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it." - Morpheus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnQsIHdICJE