The most questionable RottenTomato critic ratings

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  1. MessiahDecoy123 Psychological Anarchist

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    The Fountain - 51% (I can't be the only person who likes this movie)
    Blade - 55% (c'mon, it's pretty good for an action movie)
    Amazing Spider-man - 74% (should be at least 10 points higher)
     
  2. DarthSkywalker May the Force Be With You (P) (he/him)

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    While I like all three movies, especially the first one (I am a much bigger fan of Blade 2), I don't get your point. TASM should be 10 points higher why? Because you liked it? Why then not 100%? Also how does that change the reviewers scores?
     
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    Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines - 70%

    It shouldn't even be in the fresh region. The action is ridiculously over-the-top, it's inconsistent with James Cameron's previous movies, and it fails to do much with its characters.
     
  4. MessiahDecoy123 Psychological Anarchist

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    I give ASM a 94% but I understand that most people won't like it as much as me. But I feel it deserves a mid-eighties (like the user rating).

    I mean Batman Begins has a 61% top critic rating. Are you saying a fan of the movie shouldn't point out that they feel the movie might deserve at least 20 points more?
     
  5. chaseter Esteemed Member

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    I knew this was a thread about Spider-Man before even coming in here.
     
  6. MessiahDecoy123 Psychological Anarchist

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    I love Iron Man but I think the 94% rating is too high.

    It's very good but it doesn't deserve the second highest CBM rating.
     
  7. MessiahDecoy123 Psychological Anarchist

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    Yeah, I openly admit ASM was the inspiration for this thread but the thread is not limited to ASM.

    There's plenty of movies with questionable RT scores.
     
  8. DarthSkywalker May the Force Be With You (P) (he/him)

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    I think you are missing the point. The RT rating you are using doesn't judge how bad or good a film is. It judges the amount of critics who liked it and didn't, based on those allowed to submit to the site. No matter how much I like a film, it doesn't change that some didn't for whatever reason. That is what the RT reflects on a micro level.

    I would say there is no such thing as a questionable RT score. RT scores are not based on any sort of objective criteria.
     
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  9. MessiahDecoy123 Psychological Anarchist

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    I'd say some RT scores are more questionable than others.

    Just because a collective score is based on the subjective doesn't mean it should be completely out of touch with generally accepted artistic merit.

    Should we even care how critics feel about movies if they're always out of touch with a genre?

    At the very least we can learn how reliable or unreliable these scores can be for most movies. I happen to think most critic ratings are fair and a good litmus test of how respected a film will be over time but a few scores are just way "off".
     
  10. DarthSkywalker May the Force Be With You (P) (he/him)

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    How do you judge what equals "Generally accepted artistic merit"? Take TASM for example. What fans feel in TASM forum doesn't really reflection a general consensus. Nor does an online poll which will be sought out by fanboys and haters alike. See IMDB. And really, nor does one individual opinion on a film deserving a higher or lower RT rating.

    And I think it is less about critics being out of touch with a genre and more with fans of said genre ignoring general film appreciations outside of the genre. Spidey is a 10/10 a perfect movie. The Avengers is the best film ever. etc.
     
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    "Generally accepted artistic merit" is when most people agree that a film has above average storytelling methods that allows the themes and characters to achieve new heights within the genre using the format skillfully and creatively.

    Movies like Drive, The Godfather and Pulp Fiction come to mind.

    You could say top critics giving Batman Forever a 70% and Batman (89) a 57% would be a sign that fanboys are ignorant of "general film appreciations" outside of the genre but I'd say the opposite. Such ratings shows a lack of appreciation (from the critics standpoint) for what makes the genre timeless and respectable to begin with.
     
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    The Amazing Spider-Man should be below 72%, like 55%.
     
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    :highfive:
     
  16. MessiahDecoy123 Psychological Anarchist

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    What would you rate Spider-man and Spider-man 2?
     
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    Meh, The Amazing Spider-Man got the score it deserves because it has some problems and didn't have enough new things, TAS-M 2 probably going to get a higher score, and maybe even surpass the Raimi's ones don't worry.

    I think Spider-Man 1 and 2 deserve their ratings, judging from the time they came and all they deeserve to be in the 90s, i would say that Spider-man 3 should be in the 50s or 60s%, it had a bad script but it was very well directed. While X-Men: Last Stand shouldn0t have 57%, it was bad, in fact the ratings of Spider-Man 3 and X-Men: Last Stand should change place :D

    Prometheus should also be higher than 73%, when i stoped trying to find answers in the film for Alien and began to actually see that what we saw was just a portion of the Alien universe i began to understand how good it was.

    But whatever, this is just my opinion, i bet most didn't think the same as me for the movies i mentioned, but everybody has their opinions of different films.
     
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    The RT score is not a point they sit and decide over. The score is how many % of the critics gave it a good review compared to how many give it a bad one.
     
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    I'm not questioning some kind of decision to give a certain score.

    I'm questioning the credibility of the scoring system in specific cases.
     
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    This thread is questionable. :facepalm:
     
  21. Laderlappen Fat, drunk, and stupid

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    So some critics didnt like a movie as much as you did, so their opinion isnt credible?
     
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    I don't see what's wrong with pointing out the RT scores you disagree with the most then stating why?

    Maybe if TDKR or The Hobbit fall below 83% people might "grasp" the threads purpose. lol.
     
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    No but if the critic rating is too low or too high it does show cracks in the scoring system which I feel is reasonable and accurate much of the time.

    I just want to see how many movies people suggest that I agree with. :dry:
     
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    I don't care for RT ratings.

    Batman '89
    71% / 57 %

    Changeling
    62 % / 45 %

    What if The Hobbit actually deserves a low rating.
     
  25. Gianakin_ SW Prequels Defender

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    Oh, MessiahDecoy started this thread. How surprising. Still licking wounds after doing crazy predictions for TASM I see.:up:
     
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