the new - improved - most cliché/unrealistic things done in movies thread

[ultimatefan]

This was a thread that went on for a long time, was a lot of fun, and I thought it´d be fun to bring it back - i the old one´s still around, it can be merged I guess, I tried to find it but didn´t.

- The movie villain, supposedly an evil genius, never has a password that´s a combination of numbers and letters, like all Internet pages about password security will reccommend, instead it´s always a word with personal meaning for the villain that the hero finds out just looking around, after a couple failed attempts.

- No phone rings more than two or three times before it´s answered or the phoning person decides the one being called isn´t home.

- In dramas, handicap people are fearless and noble and surpass impossible obstacles for their dreams.

- In comedies, they´re major league a-holes who shamelessly take advantage of people´s compassion and use their condition as a license to act like jerks.

- Mousey girls who know kung fu always beat the crap out of six-foot, two hundred-pound, well-trained men.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

if a hero is going to win a fight then the fight is always fair, doesn't matter if it's 1 vs 30 you only attack one at a time

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

I'v kinda always hated how alot of the time pretty people are usually the good guys, unattractive, older, sometimes physically deformed people are the bad guys. The penguin in Batman Returns, Blofeld, The Joker In The Dark Knight, Two Face, Red Skull, Darth Vader, Emperor Palpatine becomes physically deformed when he is revealed as evil. And countless other films in all forms of media. It's a pretty horrible message being banged into peoples heads.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

- In dramas, handicap people are fearless and noble and surpass impossible obstacles for their dreams.

Em, hope i am not sounding too pc police here, but couldn't you just say was what a lot of movie protagonists are portrayed as, and that's why the movie is about them?
In actual fact, I guess that there is probably more chance of a person with a handicap finding that kind of strength, as they have to, or else they will fall prey to life.
Like Lou Ferrigno, who was born with a hearing defect, think he only has 30% hearing in one ear or something, so he dedicated himself to weight training and became...the hulk!

edit: but, you know what, I guess what you mean is, you hardly ever see a handicapped person who is an utter s*** in a movie.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

I'v kinda always hated how alot of the time pretty people are usually the good guys, unattractive, older, sometimes physically deformed people are the bad guys. The penguin in Batman Returns, Blofeld, The Joker In The Dark Knight, Two Face, Red Skull, Darth Vader, Emperor Palpatine becomes physically deformed when he is revealed as evil. And countless other films in all forms of media. It's a pretty horrible message being banged into peoples heads.

that's interesting you say that, 'cause in the op he was basically saying that all handicapped people are portrayed as noble, fearless people.
and i guess it is true that you do not see handicapped people in movies who are utter s***s.
Unless....like in your example, they are transformed into super-villans or whatever.

edit: So i guess what this could say is...there are not very many deformed or handicapped folk in movies who are middle ground ass****s, they are either portrayed as saints, or are portrayed as totally evil. I am struggling to think of a handicapped person from a movie who would fit into the middle ground there.

 

[Kane52630]

End Thread.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

where is that from?

 

[redhawk23]

There are some situations where basically anyone involved in them in real life, even like a priest or something, would irrefutably dropp and F-bomb, it would just happen, but due to PG-13 constraints in a movie, they don't.

also the son surviving at the end of War of the Worlds. seriously.

 

[redhawk23]

kane that is the greatest gif ever.

 

[Mace Dolex]

If you've inherited werewolf genes in your body system you suddenly become a pro in high school basketball - TEEN WOLF

You can take any number of beatings in boxing and never die from it - ROCKY

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Kick-Ass :

The Use of myspace.

 

[Rocketman]

The Classic Nolan "Not Exactly":

Batman: "You'd leave a man's life to chance?"
Harvey Dent: "Not exactly."

Joker: "The good cop, bad cop routine?"
Gordon: "Not exactly."

Miles: "Mr. Cobb has a job offer he'd like to discuss with you."
Ariadne: "You mean like a work placement?"
Cobb: "Not exactly."

 

[chamber-music]

Interviewer "Mr Nolan is that a honest answer?"
Nolan "Not exactly"

 

[DarkSovereignty]

that man just loves playing coy.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

I'v kinda always hated how alot of the time pretty people are usually the good guys, unattractive, older, sometimes physically deformed people are the bad guys. The penguin in Batman Returns, Blofeld, The Joker In The Dark Knight, Two Face, Red Skull, Darth Vader, Emperor Palpatine becomes physically deformed when he is revealed as evil. And countless other films in all forms of media. It's a pretty horrible message being banged into peoples heads.

Film is a visual medium. An ugly outside is short-hand for an ugly inside.

It's not a concept movies invented anyway.

 

[Bunker]

 

[Visceral]

I'v kinda always hated how alot of the time pretty people are usually the good guys, unattractive, older, sometimes physically deformed people are the bad guys. The penguin in Batman Returns, Blofeld, The Joker In The Dark Knight, Two Face, Red Skull, Darth Vader, Emperor Palpatine becomes physically deformed when he is revealed as evil. And countless other films in all forms of media. It's a pretty horrible message being banged into peoples heads.

This reminds me of Unbreakable. hhmmmm.

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

Film is a visual medium. An ugly outside is short-hand for an ugly inside.

It's not a concept movies invented anyway.

No, M.Night Shyamalan came up with the concept in Unbreakable, before this, the concept was never even conceived. Then, like the villain, he fell down some steps and made Lady In The Water.

Spoiler

But really, religion has used it for thousands of years.
Go into a church and you will see angelic models, look at a painting and you will see the exact same thing. Heaven =Beautiful full of beautiful people Hell = People with unibrows and snearing faces.

Because people have a natural reaction to it, it's one of the cheapest and most used cliche's of any medium.

I think Xmen did a good job though. Ian Mckellen being old seems to serve more as a point of wisdom and intelligence than anything else. We have Cyclops a pretty much blind fellow, and chick who can't touch people like she has a disease and Captian Picard in a wheelchair, bald and old. Saying that though, them being diffrent is sort of the point, init?

 

[ultimatefan]

Em, hope i am not sounding too pc police here, but couldn't you just say was what a lot of movie protagonists are portrayed as, and that's why the movie is about them?
In actual fact, I guess that there is probably more chance of a person with a handicap finding that kind of strength, as they have to, or else they will fall prey to life.
Like Lou Ferrigno, who was born with a hearing defect, think he only has 30% hearing in one ear or something, so he dedicated himself to weight training and became...the hulk!

edit: but, you know what, I guess what you mean is, you hardly ever see a handicapped person who is an utter s*** in a movie.

I was talking about the contrast between handicapped people in dramas, where they tend to be idealized,and in comedies, where there´s a tendency to portray them as *****ebags who either shamelessly exploit their condition or get too easily offended.

 

[ultimatefan]

that's interesting you say that, 'cause in the op he was basically saying that all handicapped people are portrayed as noble, fearless people.
and i guess it is true that you do not see handicapped people in movies who are utter s***s.
Unless....like in your example, they are transformed into super-villans or whatever.

edit: So i guess what this could say is...there are not very many deformed or handicapped folk in movies who are middle ground ass****s, they are either portrayed as saints, or are portrayed as totally evil. I am struggling to think of a handicapped person from a movie who would fit into the middle ground there.

Yeah, it´s usually in comedies that you see hanicapped people as *****ebags.

As for the deformed villain thing, that´s a much older cliché than movies, Shakespeare´s plays had that, for instance.

 

[ultimatefan]

A guy and a girl who had just met suddenly jump on each other´s arms - not uncommonly after giving every sign of hating each other´s guts -, have passionate, clothes-ripping, furniture-breaking sex - even the most perverted woman I´ve ever met would NEVER ruin pretty clothes or mess up the whole bedroom for sex -, then they reach a mind-blowing, simultaneous orgasm in two minutes, never bother to use protection and don´t have problems with STDs or unwanted pregnancy afterwards.

 

[Mrh7448]

The use of soldiers/goons/thugs who use guns but can never actually seem to hit anything with them.

Cops in chases always crashing into each other while the protagonist always seems to avoid any possible obstacle.

 

[Eddie Dean]

The Classic Nolan "Not Exactly":

Batman: "You'd leave a man's life to chance?"
Harvey Dent: "Not exactly."

Joker: "The good cop, bad cop routine?"
Gordon: "Not exactly."

Miles: "Mr. Cobb has a job offer he'd like to discuss with you."
Ariadne: "You mean like a work placement?"
Cobb: "Not exactly."

Ha, I can't wait to see this in The Dark Knight Rises!

 

[Pink Ranger]

dbl post

 

[Pink Ranger]

Artists with no discernable source of income get to live in expensive lofts in New York City and wear designer clothes. The rent control must really be something.