The NEW OFFICIAL Green Arrow Thread!

[sinewave]

Way I see it, which seems a stronger way of seeing it since the release of GA:YO, is that he was a skirt chaser in his youth when he was arrogant, selfish and out for a thrill that he could afford with his money. He did what he wanted, and he didnt care who he hurt or who he pissed off. Then YO happened (I think we should take that as the official origin story, no more pot smokers with a row boat, no more falling over the side - YO really drives home how he became a hunter and why he saw that he needed to continue to be so). Ollie returns to the mainland a better person, but thrust back into a semblance of his previous life (still has the money, still has the rep - but can't go being who GA is, that kinda thing doesnt fly in the city) and so always tows the line between who is is now, and who he was. And sometimes that line gets blurred. He sees society for what it is now and becomes a liberal enforcer. But there is still the temptation of what higher society can give him, so he slips back into the old ways every now and then - throwing money at something or using what god gave him and people's assumption of what person he is to nail what he wants. The man still has desires.

yep. old habits die hard, but he's a much more noble and thoughtful person due to his experiences on the island. i'm enjoying the story.

 

[BrianWilly]

Wedding Planner preview.

Looks a bit better than I expected.

 

[CaptainCanada]

That beard is just all wrong.

Otherwise, it looks cute.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh goody, the domestic bliss that will inevitably ruin Black Canary's character begins.

 

[Manic]

I like this Black Canary better than Winnick's.

 

[The Caped Knight]

Wedding Planner preview.

Looks a bit better than I expected.

GA acts like JLU's smart mouth version of GA .

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I like this Black Canary better than Winnick's.

That's like saying you prefer the common cold to syphilis.

 

[Varient]

Wedding Planner preview.

Looks a bit better than I expected.

I agree.
even though the geek in me cringed at the point when the laptop left via the window,....

 

[Manic]

That's like saying you prefer the common cold to syphilis.

I miss Gail Simone's Black Canary. Also Chuck Dixon's.

I agree.
even though the geek in me cringed at the point when the laptop left via the window,....

I'm more surprised that Ollie knew how to use the damn thing. Aren't he and Dinah supposed to be borderline computer-illiterate?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Dinah's gotta have at least a basic operational knowledge of computers if she's been working with Oracle for years.

 

[Manic]

But Dinah was the one in the preview that refused to use a computer.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I hadn't looked at the preview before. That scene doesn't really make any sense to me. Dinah's whining about how much work planning a wedding is, then Ollie suggests using a computer like anyone born after 1920 would, then Dinah whines about the irony of Babs' being the one who gave her the wedding planner book, then Ollie shows her how easy planning the wedding would be on a computer, then Dinah throws the bloody computer out the window. Somebody explain to me how that chain of events makes sense.

 

[Anubis]

After the second Crisis, Black Canary is back to being the original Black Canary who came over from Earth 2 after her husband died and started getting freaky with the bowman of Earth 1.

 

[Darthphere]

I hadn't looked at the preview before. That scene doesn't really make any sense to me. Dinah's whining about how much work planning a wedding is, then Ollie suggests using a computer like anyone born after 1920 would, then Dinah whines about the irony of Babs' being the one who gave her the wedding planner book, then Ollie shows her how easy planning the wedding would be on a computer, then Dinah throws the bloody computer out the window. Somebody explain to me how that chain of events makes sense.

J. Torres sucks as a writer?

 

[Anubis]

She's suffering from an untreated yeast infection that has spread to her brain?

 

[Darthphere]

It's not a toomah!

 

[Anubis]

It's a sweet Roll.

 

[Darthphere]

This is ******ed. Get Mr. Terrific on the phone and he'll have this ***** done in 30 seconds.

 

[Anubis]

Mr. T is too busy being waist deep in robo p***y to bother solving this problem.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Robo ***** tastes like motor oil.

 

[Anubis]

But it smells of Fresh Salmon

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Robo-salmon.

 

[Miss Webb]

Strange males.

At least the abusive angle to their relationship is gone. Or it should be.

 

[Tropico]

Yes, throwing someone's NEW laptop out of a window when they're trying to help is not abusive. Thanks God!!

 

[BrianWilly]

Well, at least she's abusing him.

On a related note, I asked Gail Simone about what she thought of this on another board and here's her pretty candid reply.

Urgh, this is complicated. My initial reaction was definitely, "oh, god, no." But for DC, I think it's sort of a 50/50 thing. I think it helps Green Arrow and damages Black Canary. I don't think that's intentional, it's just the way the cards fall in my view. No one's trying to damage EITHER character, I just think, you have an asskicking motorcycle mama, one of the truly great female rebels in mainstream comics, I kind of like her as free as possible. I like a Dinah Lance who can walk out the door with the change in her pockets and end up in Mongolia. Being married ties her down in several different ways.

At the same time, I think it adds some new dimensions to Ollie, so it's sort of a wash for me. I can see some cool things coming from his struggle to be part of a couple like this. I think he benefits from having people close to him around him, as a character. I'm hopeful great stories will come out of it.