Homecoming The Next Spider-Man - - - - - Part 14

[Jay Beezy]

I can admit that Isaac isn't the greatest of actors, but he's pretty decent and I think he will suit the role quite well (he's not my number one pick, though).
How many Dylan supporters will do the same and agree that their choice isn't a great actor?

How about Dylan has acted the necessary traits for Spider-Man in his work with more conviction than the other contenders?

 

[Jay Beezy]

It's call a Non-Disclosure Agreement.

Indeed.

 

[Pecola1]

Wait now.

So Billy can campaign for something he won't get and it'll be deemed as pathetic. Dylan can campaign for something he won't get and it's deemed as good and that he should get it?

I'm referencing to all the times where he claimed he wanted to be Spider-Man, too before we officially got this deal.

I think it is differentts o ay your favorite superhero is spider-man and you would want to be him, than to start a campaign to try to get yourself chosen as a spider-man actor.
Everyone has a favorite superhero that they would want to be, or even act as. However, starting a campaign for yourself may be deemed pathetic because you are telling marvel that in your opinion you would be the best actor, but instead of your fans starting a campaign you start it yourself and get your fans to jump on board.
Get it? One is stating your fav superhero that you would love to act as, the other is saying that you would be good for the role, even if you are the first person to think of it, and you start a campaign for yourself because your fans wont start one for you.

I personally don't think either is that pathetic, but it is CLEAR that one is WAY more pathetic than the other.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

See, this is the more important part. Why hasn't he done it *after* like Billy is doing?

what are you trying to say here?

 

[Mumei]

Wait now.

So Billy can campaign for something he won't get and it'll be deemed as pathetic. Dylan can campaign for something he won't get and it's deemed as good and that he should get it?

I'm referencing to all the times where he claimed he wanted to be Spider-Man, too before we officially got this deal.

... That's not campaigning for a role. That's just answering a question about a dream role when the role isn't even on the horizon. Even if it were, no one derided Freddie Highmore for saying he would be interested when he is unlikely to get it. It's not the expression of interest that Unger's getting flack for, but in taking an active public role in trying to get it, and in trying to get a Twitter trend started around it. I suppose it's the difference between grass-roots organizing and astroturf organizing.

Not that there's anything wrong with campaigning for a role; I just think that if you're going to try to get a role by actively pursuing it, do like Kate Winslet:

When they turned it down, 22-year-old Winslet campaigned heavily for the role. She sent Cameron daily notes from England, which led Cameron to invite her to Hollywood for auditions. As with DiCaprio, casting director Mali Finn originally brought her to Cameron's attention. When looking for a Rose, Cameron described the character as "an Audrey Hepburn type" and was initially uncertain about casting Winslet even after her screen test impressed him.[8] After she screen tested with DiCaprio, Winslet was so thoroughly impressed with him, that she whispered to Cameron, "He's great. Even if you don't pick me, pick him." Winslet sent Cameron a single rose with a card signed "From Your Rose" and lobbied him by phone. "You don't understand!" she pleaded one day when she reached him by mobile phone in his Humvee. "I am Rose! I don't know why you're even seeing anyone else!" Her persistence, as well as her talent, eventually convinced him to cast her in the role.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic_(1997_film)#cite_note-www.ew.com-9

She didn't fit his vision of an Audrey Hepburn type, and even after her screen test he wasn't sure. But her persistence paid off. But what he's doing? It comes across as lame.

 

[Jay Beezy]

what are you trying to say here?

His behavior has oddly changed from before to after the deal, among other things now stating his dream role is Marty McFly. It raises questions.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

His behavior has oddly changed from before to after the deal, among other things now stating his dream role is Marty McFly. It raises questions.

yes.

a. if we are to believe the redditleaker, then since the beginning of march, o'brien is spiderman and his questions in regards to the character are just the same as paul rudd and benedict cumberbatch. so, that's that and we just wait and anticipate the official announcement.

b. perhaps o'brien auditioned, but didn't get it, either marvel told him or didn't tell him but he didn't have his hopes up so he didn't want to talk about it. that would still mean he lied at paleyfest & whatever else, but it could have just been because he felt embarrassed and didn't want to talk about it & his manager knew, so didn't want people pestering him about spiderman. this is a bit iffy because he answered marty mcfly for his dream role, but maybe he did that on purpose because everyone expected him to just say spiderman.

c. o'brien has been telling the truth all along, and there's very slim chances of him getting the role. however, it is still strange that he said marty mccfly is his dream role.

with a, I want to be on board 100% but if I have my hopes up this high, it'll be that much worse if it all turns out to be b.s.

with b, i think he would've answered marty mcfly because he may've been aware of the spidey casting talk (which would mean he lied about never hearing the job) and just didn't and doesn't want his name plastered with spiderman anymore, possibly because he feels his chances are over and he's just too old even though he's still very damn young.

with c, this would just have to mean despite his telling of his love of spiderman, no one ever technically asked him what his all time most wished for dream role would be (before it was denominations of favorite superhero, if you could be a superhero, etc), and that's marty mcfly.

 

[Urich Leeds]

Concerning O'Brien, I don't believe he's been cast. That said, I do believe He has auditioned and/or been reached out to. And not just because of his behavior at Paleyfest, but because he has all the intangibles needed for a great Spidey actor.

Marvel would be fools not to give him a shot. Even in a capacity like Evans, who is brought in (almost as a safe option) if they can't quite find what they want elsewhere, later in the process, since Dylan does have some considerable downside, like his age. In Evans's case, it was having already played a Marvel superhero.

 

[Jay Beezy]

yes.

a. if we are to believe the redditleaker, then since the beginning of march, o'brien is spiderman and his questions in regards to the character are just the same as paul rudd and benedict cumberbatch. so, that's that and we just wait and anticipate the official announcement.

b. perhaps o'brien auditioned, but didn't get it, either marvel told him or didn't tell him but he didn't have his hopes up so he didn't want to talk about it. that would still mean he lied at paleyfest & whatever else, but it could have just been because he felt embarrassed and didn't want to talk about it & his manager knew, so didn't want people pestering him about spiderman. this is a bit iffy because he answered marty mcfly for his dream role, but maybe he did that on purpose because everyone expected him to just say spiderman.

c. o'brien has been telling the truth all along, and there's very slim chances of him getting the role. however, it is still strange that he said marty mccfly is his dream role.

with a, I want to be on board 100% but if I have my hopes up this high, it'll be that much worse if it all turns out to be b.s.

with b, i think he would've answered marty mcfly because he may've been aware of the spidey casting talk (which would mean he lied about never hearing the job) and just didn't and doesn't want his name plastered with spiderman anymore, possibly because he feels his chances are over and he's just too old even though he's still very damn young.

with c, this would just have to mean despite his telling of his love of spiderman, no one ever technically asked him what his all time most wished for dream role would be (before it was denominations of favorite superhero, if you could be a superhero, etc), and that's marty mcfly.

With scenario b, if he were embarrassed to talk about it, I don't buy that he'd give those Buzzfeed comments. On top of that, Davis' Avengers remark along with Tyler's knee tap after his audition remark would have been in rather poor taste, pouring salt on the wound.

And as far as the Marty McFly comments go, when he answered that, it wasn't a particularly quick response to the dream role question, as if he had to think of a different answer because he couldn't say Spider-Man without it snowballing into additional Spider-Man questions.

 

[dony2012]

Wait now.

So Billy can campaign for something he won't get and it'll be deemed as pathetic. Dylan can campaign for something he won't get and it's deemed as good and that he should get it?

I'm referencing to all the times where he claimed he wanted to be Spider-Man, too before we officially got this deal.

But Dylan NEVER campaigned himself for the role, he only said Spidey was his favorite superhero and he said it when Andrew Garfield was still Spider-Man so it was never about him saying he wants the role.

Concerning O'Brien, I don't believe he's been cast. That said, I do believe He has auditioned and/or been reached out to. And not just because of his behavior at Paleyfest, but because he has all the intangibles needed for a great Spidey actor.

Marvel would be fools not to give him a shot. Even in a capacity like Evans, who is brought in (almost as a safe option) if they can't quite find what they want elsewhere, later in the process, since Dylan does have some considerable downside, like his age. In Evans's case, it was having already played a Marvel superhero.

He wasn't, no one got the role yet, but he COULD get it, and I very hope he will, if he won't get it so be it but he's just so perfect for the role it'll be such a miss opportunity.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Concerning O'Brien, I don't believe he's been cast. That said, I do believe has auditioned. And not just do to his behavior at Paleyfest, but because he has all the intangibles needed for a great Spidey actor.

all the intangibles needed?

Marvel would be fools not to give him a shot. Even in a capacity like Evans, who is brought in (almost as a safe option) if they can't quite find what they want elsewhere, since Dylan does have some considerable downside, like his age.

so you think that regardless of what redditleaker has said, o'brien has definitely auditioned. and marvel are just analyzing their candidates. does it come to screen tests after that? in fact, what exactly is the difference between screen tests and auditions?

With scenario b, if he were embarrassed to talk about it, I don't buy that he'd give those Buzzfeed comments. On top of that, Davis' Avengers remark along with Tyler's knee tap after his audition remark would have been in rather poor taste, pouring salt on the wound.

tyler's knee tap? buzzfeed comments?

 

[MyDudeSpidey]

yes.

a. if we are to believe the redditleaker, then since the beginning of march, o'brien is spiderman and his questions in regards to the character are just the same as paul rudd and benedict cumberbatch. so, that's that and we just wait and anticipate the official announcement.

b. perhaps o'brien auditioned, but didn't get it, either marvel told him or didn't tell him but he didn't have his hopes up so he didn't want to talk about it. that would still mean he lied at paleyfest & whatever else, but it could have just been because he felt embarrassed and didn't want to talk about it & his manager knew, so didn't want people pestering him about spiderman. this is a bit iffy because he answered marty mcfly for his dream role, but maybe he did that on purpose because everyone expected him to just say spiderman.

c. o'brien has been telling the truth all along, and there's very slim chances of him getting the role. however, it is still strange that he said marty mccfly is his dream role.

with a, I want to be on board 100% but if I have my hopes up this high, it'll be that much worse if it all turns out to be b.s.

with b, i think he would've answered marty mcfly because he may've been aware of the spidey casting talk (which would mean he lied about never hearing the job) and just didn't and doesn't want his name plastered with spiderman anymore, possibly because he feels his chances are over and he's just too old even though he's still very damn young.

with c, this would just have to mean despite his telling of his love of spiderman, no one ever technically asked him what his all time most wished for dream role would be (before it was denominations of favorite superhero, if you could be a superhero, etc), and that's marty mcfly.

You have a point. But to somewhat clarify... Actors don't get told they didn't get the role, they find out with everybody else. A good example being Mark Ruffalo, he didn't know he booked the Hulk role until a black SUV drove up to his house.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

You have a point. But to somewhat clarify... Actors don't get told they didn't get the role, they find out with everybody else. A good example being Mark Ruffalo, he didn't know he booked the Hulk role until a black SUV drove up to his house.

OK, so just scratch the part of me saying perhaps marvel told him. the rest still applies.

 

[harryoscop]

 

[Urich Leeds]

all the intangibles needed?

The right look, right voice (actually a more important aspect than people think), and an ability to perfrom Spidey-esque humor and wit, as well as drama.

Also, he's proven he can be a standout in an ensemble. The primary example of that being Teen Wolf, where he's pretty much the star attraction despite not being THE lead actor; this being very important for MCU actors to have the talent to do.

Lastly, he proven he can be the lead (or A lead) of a franchise for multiple years (Both Teen Wolf and Maze Runner), meaning he's also shown he can handle the hectic year-to-year schedule this role would entail.

These are all invaluable qualities, but those latter two would definitely give him an advantage over the other contenders since, while they would have to learn those things and grow into it those roles, he has already done it and can come in without any growing pains.

 

[Jay Beezy]

tyler's knee tap? buzzfeed comments?

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jarettwieselman/dylan-obrien-not-playing-spider-man#.soDBD6MAJg

Still looking for that Paleyfest part where Tyler taps Dylan's knee after making an audition remark.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

what?

The right look, right voice (actually a more important aspect than people think), and an ability to perfrom Spidey-esque humor and wit, as well as drama.

Also, he's proven he can be a standout in an ensemble (Teen Wolf, where he's pretty much the star attraction despite not being THE lead actor), which is important for MCU actors to have the talent to do; and can be the lead of a franchise for multiple years (Both Teen Wolf and Maze Runner).

These latter two would definitely give him an advantage over the other contenders since, while they would have to learn that and grow into it, he has already done it and can come in without any growing pains.

yeah, I agree. well said. I didn't finish watching maze runner coz I wasn't liking the movie but I've seen what he's done in teen wolf and I think you're right.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jarettwieselman/dylan-obrien-not-playing-spider-man#.soDBD6MAJg

Still looking for that Paleyfest part where Tyler taps Dylan's knee after making an audition remark.

I believe sevenwebheads has a clip of it. I think the video is called "o'brien teased as spiderman"

 

[Dark Raven]

My votes on Dark Raven, she's so much funnier than anyone else.

Funny as in they mean to be funny? Or funny because they do things which are funny but they aren't doing it to be funny but are being serious? Your choices seem like the latter.
DR is purposefully funny.

Yeah, but he probably won't admit it.

He.

I know I have a rather female-sounding username (which comes from Raven Darkholme) and the subnick under it sounds rather girly too, but that refers to Gal Gadot, who is in my avatar. Oh, and the location sounds a bit girly as well. But I assure you I am male.

 

[harryoscop]

Please Marvel, give us something.

 

[Dark Raven]

Please Marvel, give us something.

What if they send over a cold pizza?

 

[Urich Leeds]

Please Marvel, give us something.

Just a few more weeks.

If screentesting is set to begin, we should know something VERY soon.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

He.

I know I have a rather female-sounding username (which comes from Raven Darkholme) and the subnick under it sounds rather girly too, but that refers to Gal Gadot, who is in my avatar. Oh, and the location sounds a bit girly as well. But I assure you I am male.

word, I was about to say, I had no idea you were a female.

 

[Dark Raven]

word, I was about to say, I had no idea you were a female.

I'm not.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

I'm not.

hence, I was about to say.

 

[harryoscop]

what?

Still no news.