Homecoming The Next Spider-Man - Part 7

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[Ghostcrow13]

And he looks older than Dylan in my opinion, like it's all well and good saying cast a 17-19 year old, but if they look their age, then when they're 25 they are going to look just as out of place at HS then say Dylan at 28.

Personally whilst Garfield showed it in in TASM2 a bit, in TASM he was 28 and I didn't really think he looked ridiculous being at High School, there are some old looking 17 18 year olds as it is.

I never heard people come out the theater and go the guy playing Peter looked too old. In fact I was shocked to learn how old he was at the time of casting

 

[harryoscop]

From 7 days ago:

I could totally buy this guy as a 16 year old.
I don't see how his age is an issue, he's like 4 years younger than Garfield when he was cast.

 

[Rodrigo90]

He can pass for 16. But not 15

 

[Ghostcrow13]

From 7 days ago:

I could totally buy this guy as a 16 year old.
I don't see how his age is an issue, he's like 4 years younger than Garfield when he was cast.

The argument is 'apparently' they want him in HS for all solo flicks (which is based on nothing), which doesn't make timeline sense, unless the second and third solo films will be set before or just after IW and don't follow the current kind of MCU trajectory of just setting the films when they are released which removes continuity problems especially with the TV shows.

Not to mention I've seen so many people complain about them taking Peter back to HS, which I'm fine with I like a younger Peter mixing with the Avengers. But for all 3 solo films and CW and IW, that's a bit much, not to mention who is watching a Spider-man film to see him in HS anyway.

 

[Rodrigo90]

That's why it's more appropriate of them to pick a younger actor. To keep him in high school, one place, to keep aligned with the rest of the continuity. That makes sense.

 

[Ghostcrow13]

He can pass for 16. But not 15

They don't even need to say his age really do they?

I mean in CW he could be 15, but if they never say it, no one will go that guy isn't 15, they will just go yeah that guy is young and in HS especially compared to all the 30 and 40 year olds in the rest of the cast.

For me I'd go 15 in CW, 16 solo, 17 IW, 18 second solo (2019), then he graduates and is in college

So at worst with Dylan you'd have a 26 year old playing 18. And he'd have been in HS for 2 solo films and during CW and IW. I don't really see any point in him being there any longer even in Harry Potter you saw less and less time with him actually in school and school like things.

 

[harryoscop]

The argument is 'apparently' they want him in HS for all solo flicks (which is based on nothing), which doesn't make timeline sense, unless the second and third solo films will be set before or just after IW and don't follow the current kind of MCU trajectory of just setting the films when they are released which removes continuity problems especially with the TV shows.

Not to mention I've seen so many people complain about them taking Peter back to HS, which I'm fine with I like a younger Peter mixing with the Avengers. But for all 3 solo films and CW and IW, that's a bit much, not to mention who is watching a Spider-man film to see him in HS anyway.

I think what a lot of people seem to forget is that the MCU has the real world timeline.
It wouldn't make sense for Peter to be in High-school for more than 4 years.. plus like you said, a lot of fans don't want to see the high-school setting anymore and rightfully so, because we've already had 2 movies set in high-school.
Garfield looked like an actual high-schooler in TASM1, only in TASM2 his age started to show.
That shouldn't be a problem for Dylan who is four years younger then Garfield was.

 

[SyntaxError]

Its not going to be Dylan. Yeah sure, he can pass for 16 (personally I don't see it; he looks 18 minimum) RIGHT NOW, but Marvel/Sony want stability in the franchise for a long period of time. Casting young allows them to do so, and Dylan won't look young for much longer.

 

[JOE]

Dylan is 23 right now. He has enough in him to get at least two solo films in high school, potentially 3 considering he looks a lot younger than his actual age. Even if they squeeze out 2, the third movie could be him in college where he'll be pushing 30 yet still look like a low 20 year old. I don't see the problem.

 

[Dark Raven]

I think what a lot of people seem to forget is that the MCU has the real world timeline.
It wouldn't make sense for Peter to be in High-school for more than 4 years.. plus like you said, a lot of fans don't want to see the high-school setting anymore and rightfully so, because we've already had 2 movies set in high-school.
Garfield looked like an actual high-schooler in TASM1, only in TASM2 his age started to show.
That shouldn't be a problem for Dylan who is four years younger then Garfield was.

It would if Peter is kept back in high school for constantly failing science class.

Just think: he can't pass science class and now he thinks he can make webshooters.

 

[Ghostcrow13]

Its not going to be Dylan. Yeah sure, he can pass for 16 (personally I don't see it; he looks 18 minimum) RIGHT NOW, but Marvel/Sony want stability in the franchise for a long period of time. Casting young allows them to do so, and Dylan won't look young for much longer.

But what is stability, you saying someone in there early 20s wouldn't be able to give 10 years to a franchise.

Because RDJ will have done by the time of IW, Daniel Craig has for Bond. Hugh Jackman will be 16 next year. I don't see this cast a 15 year old and you can have him for 10 years logic

The only age bracket you might not have an actor for 10 years is someone in there 70s/80s, even then Christopher Lee and Tolkien films.

 

[Dark Raven]

And he looks older than Dylan in my opinion, like it's all well and good saying cast a 17-19 year old, but if they look their age, then when they're 25 they are going to look just as out of place at HS then say Dylan at 28.

Personally whilst Garfield showed it in in TASM2 a bit, in TASM he was 28 and I didn't really think he looked ridiculous being at High School, there are some old looking 17 18 year olds as it is.

I never heard people come out the theater and go the guy playing Peter looked too old. In fact I was shocked to learn how old he was at the time of casting

The problem with Garfield is that he was already playing characters who were out of high school in his other movies. In the Social Network, for example, he was a young entrepreneur who was already working. Even in Lions for Lambs, wasn't he a college student? So to now go back to playing a high school student was harder to find believable.

 

[Frodo]

The point isn't to keep the character in highschool for all the films. If the report is correct , then its to get an actor young enough to grow into the role over several years ala Radcliffe with the Potter films. El May said they're looking at Teen actors to play 15 years old. Teen actors could be anything from 17-19. Or they could even go 20 and 21.

The point is they don't want another Tobey Macguire/ Andrew Garfield situation in which the actors look in their 30s by the second film when they're suppose to be 18 and 19.
It makes business sense at least from Marvel/Disney's perspective. You getting a young less known actor, i.e. teen, you build his career up, he probably gets to be in non- Spiderman Disney and Sony related projects and ideally , you can have him for at least four films.

Now whether that's what they should do is another question. I'm sure their are alot of fans who want someone older because it means their choices have a shot at the role, but from the Disney point of view , its pretty consistent with what they've done with their young actors and youth based properties for years.

 

[Ghostcrow13]

Well it didn't work with Radcliffe in my opinion, the guy didn't start off great and I took that down to him being a child actor, I'm younger than him and I didn't think he was good in the early ones, then I thought he was decent in Prisoner of Azkaban and then he just became bad again.

Not to mention, the guy stopped growing at like 12. 18 maybe 17+ is fine by me. A 15,16 hear old is a big risk in my opinion.

 

[Web-Head]

What about Joel Courtney? The kid from Super 8. He just turned 19 at the end of January

 

[Airwings]

Asa Butterfield!!! Isaac Hempstead Wright!!! Dakota Goyo!!! Aramis Knight!!! Chandler Riggs!!! Nathan Gamble!!! Lucas Hedges!!!

Wild card: Lino Faicioli

and to you, John Locke: Liam James!!!

 

[Daedalus]

What about Joel Courtney? The kid from Super 8. He just turned 19 at the end of January

I remember liking him in Super 8, but I honestly don`t know if I`d like him as Peter. I can`t really explain it, I just don`t see him fitting that well. I have been wrong in the past though.

Wild card: Lino Faicioli

 

[Dark Raven]

I think that Marvel and Sony can't just think of casting Peter in isolation. If they get someone too young, then they will also have to find other actors of a similar age for Harry and MJ who are suitable. But if they cast in their early 20s, they can get better actors for each.

I think they could get a fantastic combination of Dylan O'Brien, Sarah Bolger and Cameron Monaghan who are all around the same age, look uncannily like their classic comic book counterparts and have perfect personalities to match.

 

[Val_Zod]

I think that Marvel and Sony can't just think of casting Peter in isolation. If they get someone too young, then they will also have to find other actors of a similar age for Harry and MJ who are suitable. But if they cast in their early 20s, they can get better actors for each.

I think they could get a fantastic combination of Dylan O'Brien, Sarah Bolger and Cameron Monaghan who are all around the same age, look uncannily like their classic comic book counterparts and have perfect personalities to match.

Exactly. It's hard enough finding one single good teen actor, it's another to have to look for good ones to play all the other supporting characters who are teenagers as well. Just cast early 20s and get 2 highschool Spiderman films, and move on from there. I'm all for long term, but if the actors aren't convincing in the role, due to inexperience, what's the point?

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

From 7 days ago:

I could totally buy this guy as a 16 year old.
I don't see how his age is an issue, he's like 4 years younger than Garfield when he was cast.

agreed. we need to get him

 

[dony2012]

agreed. we need to get him

We sure do.

 

[Airwings]

We sure do.

No, we need to cast.... (check my signature)

 

[dony2012]

no, we need to cast.... (check my signature)

NO.

Dylan O'Brien is the perfect choice for the role.