The Obama Thread (Merged x6)

[Equinox]

As Muhammad Ali once said..

Black is beautiful..

I still cant beleive in this age, posters like Soulless, would actually think that the color of a person's skin would directly be linked to his brain..

 

[sinewave]

To everyone who says he can't win because of lack of experience, how much experience did Bush have before running for the Presidency? He ran a few companies into the ground and then was governor for a little while. that's it. He had no experience within the federal government at all. Obama is easily smarter and more in touch with the average person than Bush is. He's got the minority vote, which could be huge. He'd probably get a huge chunk of the "security mom" vote just because the polls show that they're sick of Bush, and he'd get the progressive and a lot of the moderate votes. I'd vote for him over Clinton, McCain, Giulliani, Biden, Kerry, Edwards and maybe even Gore and Clark.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

It blows my mind that there are many people who actually think there's a worse choice than Bush, and the reason the choice is worse is that the candidate might have a lot of melanin in his skin or might not have a penis.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

"too much melanin" = Barak

"might not have a penis" = Hillary

 

[comicgirl]

"too much melanin" = Barak

"might not have a penis" = Hillary

well, Duyba has less melanin and a penis (in Laura's purse). Eureka! THAT'S why he's president.

 

[jaguarr]

To everyone who says he can't win because of lack of experience, how much experience did Bush have before running for the Presidency? He ran a few companies into the ground and then was governor for a little while. that's it. He had no experience within the federal government at all. Obama is easily smarter and more in touch with the average person than Bush is. He's got the minority vote, which could be huge. He'd probably get a huge chunk of the "security mom" vote just because the polls show that they're sick of Bush, and he'd get the progressive and a lot of the moderate votes. I'd vote for him over Clinton, McCain, Giulliani, Biden, Kerry, Edwards and maybe even Gore and Clark.

Very good point. I'd vote for him over all those others, too. Washington needs new blood and too many of those people are a part of the problem rather than the solution as far as I'm concerned (McCain and Hillary first and foremost).

jag

 

[blind_fury]

So what's he done? Gave a good speach at the DNC, is that it?

What did Dubya accomplish before he became president?

Oh that's right, he was nominated because he was related to George Bush Sr.

 

[blind_fury]

I don't want a black man running my country. Or a woman. Or anyone other than a pure blooded White man.

Call me old fashion, racist, a biggot, call me whatever, I couldn't care less.

I can't wait until the majority of America is made of minorities. lolz!

 

[Ben Urich]

I don't want a black man running my country. Or a woman. Or anyone other than a pure blooded White man.

Call me old fashion, racist, a biggot, call me whatever, I couldn't care less.

I hope you die a slow, painful death.

 

[Truthteller]

The problem with Obama from what I've seen so far is his lack of originality. I'm not sure why so many folks seem to favor him as President. I've heard him give a few speeches, one at the last Democrat convention, and it was just more of the same old thing. Pandering bleeding heart liberalism. And for me, that just isn't going to do it.

To support a candidate, I need to hear more from him than he cares for the poor and downtrodden. Those things are a given. For me a leader needs to show that he can make hard decisions that go beyond just feeling sorry about a situation and throwing money at it. I have not seen that from Obama yet. We need more than a good personality and an attractive face. But I am not closed to him. Maybe he will come through with a little grit and toughness, and if so I will consider him more highly.

 

[jaguarr]

To support a candidate, I need to hear more from him than he cares for the poor and downtrodden. Those things are a given. For me a leader needs to show that he can make hard decisions that go beyond just feeling sorry about a situation and throwing money at it. I have not seen that from Obama yet. We need more than a good personality and an attractive face. But I am not closed to him. Maybe he will come through with a little grit and toughness, and if so I will consider him more highly.

In this day and age, those things are NOT a given, which is why Obama is really getting some attention at the moment. Otherwise, I get where you're coming from and agree in some ways.

jag

 

[Truthteller]

In this day and age, those things are NOT a given, which is why Obama is really getting some attention at the moment. Otherwise, I get where you're coming from and agree in some ways.

jag

Granted, for some they are not. Of course I meant from my perspective. So, I might say Obama is half way there - I need to see him take the next step.

 

[sinewave]

The problem with Obama from what I've seen so far is his lack of originality. I'm not sure why so many folks seem to favor him as President. I've heard him give a few speeches, one at the last Democrat convention, and it was just more of the same old thing. Pandering bleeding heart liberalism. And for me, that just isn't going to do it.

To support a candidate, I need to hear more from him than he cares for the poor and downtrodden. Those things are a given. For me a leader needs to show that he can make hard decisions that go beyond just feeling sorry about a situation and throwing money at it. I have not seen that from Obama yet. We need more than a good personality and an attractive face. But I am not closed to him. Maybe he will come through with a little grit and toughness, and if so I will consider him more highly.

i personally can't take another 4-8 years of "grit and toughness". i'd prefer a uniter to a divider. you get more done that way.

 

[BT18]

Truthteller, you aren't going to vote for any democrat, since you've obviously got the truthiness sloganeering playbook down pact like the good dittohead you are, so up yours.

And earlier in this thread I said Obama should wait, but actually I've changed my mind. Abraham Lincoln's national experience consisted of a 2 year term in the US House and losing the Illinois senate race 2 years before he ran for president.

I've thought of Wesley Clark as somebody who could be our Eisenhower. I've thought of Barbara Boxer as somebody who could be our Reagan. But motherf*(ker why not somebody who could be our Lincoln ?

and again, the microscopic sliver of racists who the GOP doesn't already have the rubber stamp vote of would be far outweighed by record breaking turnout of minority voters, much less all the other people Obama appeals to as much if not more like the youth.

 

[KingOfDreams]

edit: never mind

 

[terry78]

Truthteller, you aren't going to vote for any democrat, since you've obviously got the truthiness sloganeering playbook down pact like the good dittohead you are, so up yours.

And earlier in this thread I said Obama should wait, but actually I've changed my mind. Abraham Lincoln's national experience consisted of a 2 year term in the US House and losing the Illinois senate race 2 years before he ran for president.

I've thought of Wesley Clark as somebody who could be our Eisenhower. I've thought of Barbara Boxer as somebody who could be our Reagan. But motherf*(ker why not somebody who could be our Lincoln ?

and again, the microscopic sliver of racists who the GOP doesn't already have the rubber stamp vote of would be far outweighed by record breaking turnout of minority voters, much less all the other people Obama appeals to as much if not more like the youth.

There's more of them than you think. A lot of older people in the south will go against Obama on principle alone, and some younger ones. And not to just pigeonhole the south as my roots are there, but I know what's realistic and what's not.

 

[Fred_Fury]

OMGOMGOMG BARACK OBAMA!!! The Democrats big white hype might run for president!!!

who cares?

 

[comicgirl]

Obama is too smart to bank his capital now. Its just news of the week.

This is not a stupid man

 

[cryptic name]

If Obama did run, all those people that don't vote would immediately jump up to vote, because half of them would vote just to see a different type of guy in office, and the other half would vote just to keep the same guy out.

i don't vote and this guy running wouldn't change that. it doesn't matter who or what party wins these elections.

 

[terry78]

i don't vote and this guy running wouldn't change that. it doesn't matter who or what party wins these elections.

Those idealistic types that are pissed about this regime we have now would more than likely change their tune and vote. Their mindset would be "a black guy running? I know the good 'ol boys club would hate that, so I'm gonna vote for him just to spite them." And he's a Dem to boot, and not a repub like Alan Keyes, so that's a double whammy.

 

[comicgirl]

Those idealistic types that are pissed about this regime we have now would more than likely change their tune and vote. Their mindset would be "a black guy running? I know the good 'ol boys club would hate that, so I'm gonna vote for him just to spite them." And he's a Dem to boot, and not a repub like Alan Keyes, so that's a double whammy.

Alan Keyes is a tool. If there's a God, he'll never hold public office.

 

[sinewave]

OMGOMGOMG BARACK OBAMA!!! The Democrats big white hype might run for president!!!

who cares?

more intelligent reparte from everyone's favorite skid mark.

 

[sinewave]

Alan Keyes is a tool. If there's a God, he'll never hold public office.

agreed.

 

[Dorian Gray]

BARACK OBAMA!!!

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

I hear that he`s just being praised because he`s a fresh face and not much else.When it comes down to bare facts,i doubt he would win.