The Offical thread to Vent if need be.

[Super_Ludacris]

I cant believe how much people like that FOTW

 

[Jack O Lantern]

The reason Martha reacted the way she did was because Clark allowed himself to get into that situation in the first place.

If a girl was taken advantage of due to alcohol, then the parents would be angry that the girl put herself in a situation that resulted in her getting drunk. Clark should have avoided the situation in the first place, and she was right in that. It still doesn't make him any less a victim.

She said something along the lines of "Having we taught you how sacred marriage", Martha knew Clark was doing what he really wanted to do and that was running of with Alicia

 

[Migu-EL]

I think Tom Welling to Morgan Freeman is comparable with a Norm from the fifth demison and a FES

Yeah but the genearal Idea of Mxy was still there. He still used his magic to play tricks on people and Clark. . Smallville just choose to make him more of a realistic looking character. His apperance can look different because he's not a main character of the show. Now with saying that's the equvilent to having Morgan Freeman play Clark and The Rock play Lex that's just extreme because those two are the main characters of the show. Eveyone knows Clark/Superman suppose to seem like a strong young man not a fraile senior citizen who at any minute appears as if he's gonna suffer a heart attack. Your also not suppose to have Clark appear physically weaker then Lex. So I believe I'm justified in saying your comparison is a bit extreme.

 

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Okay I see your a Batman fan so lets go this way you would be okay with it if every Batman movie was based from the 1960's series and Batman and Robin. Where all the suits had rubber nipples and glow in the dark out fits and ice skates in there boots????? Why do you think people caused such an up roar about that movie. I mean I am not saying they have to be perfect but if you are going to use a person with history like that do it right. Iget what your saying about Myx. all I am saying they need to show more respect or do some research atleast.

I understand your frustration partially. It's like I said it could have been explained a little better. I think in truth they were gonna have him return and maybe they were gonna explain where he really came from.
But like I said, my take on the situation was like in some comics he went back in time to mess with Clark...
As for Batman, no I wouldn't but if you have the special edition dvds of the first 4 Batman films you see it explained by guys in the industry that the first movie was based on the Bob Kane run, the second an hommage to the comics in the 90's, the third one based on the fifties and the 4th one on the sixties. And of course Begins based on the Frank Miller/Jeph Loeb run.
You may like some versions more than others but like they said, they are all valid.
For many ppl Batman was what you saw in comics and on tv in the 60's so they prefer Adam West and the show, for ppl like me who grew up reading comics in the late 80's and early 90's the Burton movies captured our Batman and Keaton will always be the man and today's fans rally around Begins. Which doesn't mean they don't like the other versions (I personally enjoyed them on some level with exception of Batman and Robin).
And Superman is the same. Believe it or not alot of ppl prefer George Reeves portrayal to Chris's portrayal. But so many of us grew up with those 4 films that our emotional connection to Chris and those movies are so strong that is the definitive (an attachment that Singer and the new movie tried to explore with today's audience).
But that doesn't mean that we don't consider valid other Super shows/movies. I didn't like Dean Cain's portrayal as Superman but I watched and enjoyed Lois and Clark like so many fans.
I loved Superboy and Gerard Christopher's portrayal even though it didn't made me believe as much as Chris.
Smallville made me a fan of Superman again after years of terrible comic book writing and Tom Welling made me believe again.
Now the movie came out and even though I can't say I liked it (but it had more to do with issues like casting, suit, premise, etc than how the characters were presented), again it's as valid as the other super-entries in the franchise.
First and foremost you have to remember that comics and movies are different mediums. If you want it exactly like that you better stick to comics, you won't find a completly faithful superhero movie, not even Spidey. They all change things depending on the kind of story they want to tell within their mithology.
P.S. - I dig your avatar. I was a big fan of hers as well...

 

[Jack O Lantern]

Yeah but the genearal Idea of Mxy was still there. He still used his magic to play tricks on people and Clark. . Smallville just choose to make him more of a realistic looking character. His apperance can look different because he's not a main character of the show. Now with saying that's the equvilent to having Morgan Freeman play Clark and The Rock play Lex that's just extreme because those two are the main characters of the show. Eveyone knows Clark/Superman suppose to seem like a strong young man not a fraile senior citizen who at any minute appears as if he's gonna suffer a heart attack. Your also not suppose to have Clark appear physically weaker then Lex. So I believe I'm justified in saying your comparison is a bit extreme.

Myx is supposed to be a 3ft norme that is annoying, in smallville he was a tall charming character with a hedious accent, to me that changing the character to much. If changing the physical apperance doesn't matter then Morgan Freeman would make a perfect Superman, he's nice and kind and as long as he has the same powers whats the beef, as for the Rock other than he being Samoan/Africa-American I don't see much difference in him and Lex

 

[avidreader]

I was thinking about this tweaking of the characters and I thought its really no different to a book that has been adapted into a screen play.

They often make changes from the books to make the characters and the plots more suitable for film.

What works for one medium doesnt necessarily work best for the other.

 

[Bruce_Wayne29]

They often make changes from the books to make the characters and the plots more suitable for film.

What works for one medium doesnt necessarily work best for the other.

Exactly.

 

[avidreader]

Exactly.

I just saw your previous post Bruce, well said.

 

[Migu-EL]

Myx is supposed to be a 3ft norme that is annoying, in smallville he was a tall charming character with a hedious accent, to me that changing the character to much. If changing the physical apperance doesn't matter then Morgan Freeman would make a perfect Superman, he's nice and kind and as long as he has the same powers whats the beef, as for the Rock other than he being Samoan/Africa-American I don't see much difference in him and Lex

The one big difference you fail to see is that unlike Mxy, Superman and Lex are the main characters in the story. To change Superman's appereance in a way is to change his powers. By making him a frail little old man then the publics perception of superman would be altered thus diminishing his physical aura given by the people. And I never said changing their physical apperance didn't matter. I said changing Mxy's physical apperance didn't matter because atleast to me Mxy was still annoying and mystical without being 3 ft tall.

Also I could care less if Superman or Lex were black, white, asian, hispanic, Indian, or middle eastern. As Long as Supermans Physical apperance looks stronger then lex and superman has all his powers then I have no beef.

 

[Jack O Lantern]

The one big difference you fail to see is that unlike Mxy, Superman and Lex are the main characters in the story. To change Superman's appereance in a way is to change his powers. By making him a frail little old man then the publics perception of superman would be altered thus diminishing his physical aura given by the people. And I never said changing their physical apperance didn't matter. I said changing Mxy's physical apperance didn't matter because atleast to me Mxy was still annoying and mystical without being 3 ft tall.

Also I could care less if Superman or Lex were black, white, asian, hispanic, Indian, or middle eastern. As Long as Supermans Physical apperance looks stronger then lex and superman has all his powers then I have no beef.

But he wasn't annoying, he was charming and his story made no sense. For starters if he can make people do what he tells them to do, why does he need money, if he wants something he cam just tell people to give it to him. At the end he made a bet with Lex to stay in country, why didn't he just tell Lex to not bother him again

 

[triplet]

But he wasn't annoying, he was charming and his story made no sense. For starters if he can make people do what he tells them to do, why does he need money, if he wants something he cam just tell people to give it to him. At the end he made a bet with Lex to stay in country, why didn't he just tell Lex to not bother him again

I thought that making bets was a play on Mxy in the comics and STAS...

He's always playing games, asking riddles and making bets, isn't he?

*shrug*

 

[AgentPat]

I thought that making bets was a play on Mxy in the comics and STAS...

He's always playing games, asking riddles and making bets, isn't he?

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

Its is your friend http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_Mxyzptlk SV couldn't even spell the name right. This is who Mxyz. is; not the person we saw in SV the only thing SV got right was his powers. Why do you think at comic-con when when asked if anything from SV has been or will be used in the comics they said no. Even Waid (Man who wrote Birthright) said the only (or single) great thing to come out of SV was that they made the Kents young and not old and thats all he took.

 

[Bruce_Wayne29]

And yet SV is the only live action DC Comics production that IS actually supervised by DC. They have to aprove anything they do with characters from the mithology. If they don't have any problem with it why should we ?
I'm not sure if Waid said that exact thing or was taken out of context but even if he did, remember that nothing is a unanimity.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

All I am saying with SV is they get the name and the powers right but not the heart of the person or what made that person so great and well loved by others right. Thats there problem but as it has been said and stated this is their take on Superman and the DCU like The Batman is their take on Batman and the DCU so hey its whatever but SV doesn't get it right in fact its more then often when using other people from the DCU a miss then a hit.

 

[Bruce_Wayne29]

I just saw your previous post Bruce, well said.

Thanks, I thought you made a pretty good point as well...

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

And yet SV is the only live action DC Comics production that IS actually supervised by DC. They have to aprove anything they do with characters from the mithology. If they don't have any problem with it why should we ?
I'm not sure if Waid said that exact thing or was taken out of context but even if he did, remember that nothing is a unanimity.

The Batman has to do the same thing and yet that flys, All-Star Batman and Robin have to do it too and yet we have The Goddamn Batman, Superman and Batman movies have to do it as well (and yes they do) and they still go through the DC comics as well. As I am saying its an elseworld tell so hey anything goes but that was not Mxy. in SV that was SV verison of Mxy. not the Mxy. we all know.

As for Waids comment I do seem to remember the crowd clapping and some cheers afterwards I do have to check the audio again though.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

But I will give you this the movies do go through them more out of respect then they have to. Unlike Marvel where they have to go through Mavel before they can make it to the screen.

 

[Bruce_Wayne29]

DC's only cooperation to BB was giving comic books to Nolan. They didn't do anything on Superman Returns, they all trusted Singer. So I maintain what I said, SV is the only DC Comics live action production that is supervised by DC and actually had comic book writers in there such as Loeb and Verheiden.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

DC's only cooperation to BB was giving comic books to Nolan. They didn't do anything on Superman Returns, they all trusted Singer. So I maintain what I said, SV is the only DC Comics live action production that is supervised by DC and actually had comic book writers in there such as Loeb and Verheiden.

Loeb is no longer there and after his Sugirl run I lost some respect for him. Also BB and SR did go to them but as I said before it was more out of respect Singer and Nolan both asked for input and both asked them to come out to check things out. But as I said before they didn't have to but did out of respect.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

As I said before SV gets the name and powers right but not the heart of the heroes which in the first place made us want to see them come to life. Now thats not taking away from them I am just saying they could try harder.

Bart Allen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_Allen

Aquaman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquaman

Kara aka Supergirl: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supergirl

Perry white: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perry_White

My point is as I said this is an Elsworld tell so I don't expect them to be the people we all know and love but for them to atleast show some thing other then their name and power.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

Even more Zod: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zod

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

All I am saying is the main reason why people have problems with SV using these people is because they never show why we liked them they just use them for the name only. They should show why we loved these heroes thats all.

 

[Migu-EL]

But he wasn't annoying, he was charming and his story made no sense.

I guess that's your oppinion, but to me he was very annoying.


For starters if he can make people do what he tells them to do, why does he need money, if he wants something he cam just tell people to give it to him. At the end he made a bet with Lex to stay in country, why didn't he just tell Lex to not bother him again

It's was all part of the game. Just telling them to give him money is no fun, he'd rather toy with them and torture them a bit then ultimately get whatevr it is he wants. That's a sign of a true villian.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

Its is your friend http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_Mxyzptlk SV couldn't even spell the name right. .

Where was it spelled wrong on Smallville?