First Avenger The Official Captain America Critic's Review Thread - Part 1

[Surfer]

Why are you concerned about the word shortcomings when he used it to describe Iron Man, a film the vast majority enjoyed? If this guy thought Iron Man 1 had shortcomings then what the hell kind of movie does he want to see in summer?

Not trying to argue with you, just trying to point out that "Shortcomings" as a word is negative. So, chillax!

Surfer

 

[wobbly]

What if your an art student?

If you are crap at it just chuck a bucket of paint on the floor and hope the examiner is a Jackson Pollock fan

 

[Liam_H]

It has an average of 7.1/10 and it says 96% of people wanna see it. Judging by those two alone, I think it will make plenty of money to warrant a sequel. Also judging by the 7.1/10, I'm expecting the meter to move up around IM2 territory which isn't that bad. Plus, I LOVED IM2.

Just gotta say that user rating on who wants to see it doesn't really mean anything, its just window dressing until they get actual critics and user ratings up.

 

[ElMariachi]

If it is more of the same, it is bland.

You don't have to even like Nolan's Batman to understand why it gets praise. It avoids being like other similar films. Whether you consider that good or bad is up to you, but the critics eat that up.

I completely understanding just waiting to see your favorite hero on screen, no matter how "similar" it maybe. That doesn't mean the critics have to overlook that. By-the-numbers prequel is not a good thing.

More of the same of what? I don't recall seeing any other World War II action movies about a science fiction creation fighting Nazis that is tied to a cinematic universe culminating in one big movie.

And how was it by the numbers? These reviewers didn't even explain this in any of their reviews. The hero is a good guy that saves the day? That is considered by-the-numbers? Just further indication about what's wrong with Hollywood and people in general. Everything has to be dark, moody and have a twist. We just can't have a straight up adventure movie that is fun for everybody.

 

[weezerspider]

Just gotta say that user rating on who wants to see it doesn't really mean anything, its just window dressing until they get actual critics and user ratings up.

It means nothing about the quality of the movie, yes, but the fact that 96% of RT users WANT to see it, is at least a good sign for future box office numbers. That was my point.

 

[ElMariachi]

Edit, already posted

 

[Jennn]

Another screener (or two) just let out and again all the comments i'm seeing are positive! And even though i'm really pulling for a fresh rating, RT can suck it.

And again the Avengers trailer didn't play. Which i think is confusing more people than not at this point.

 

[weezerspider]

More of the same of what? I don't recall seeing any other World War II action movies about a science fiction creation fighting Nazis that is tied to a cinematic universe culminating in one big movie.

And how was it by the numbers? These reviewers didn't even explain this in any of their reviews. The hero is a good guy that saves the day? That is considered by-the-numbers? Just further indication about what's wrong with Hollywood and people in general. Everything has to be dark, moody and have a twist. We just can't have a straight up adventure movie that is fun for everybody.

No offense, but that is a pretty over-generalized statement. I mean 2009's Best Picture "The Hurt Locker" was about as lighthearted as a war film can be. It had no political commentary like many modern war films. It was strictly a story about a kind of goofy soldier saving the day in a few instances.

 

[Liam_H]

It means nothing about the quality of the movie, yes, but the fact that 96% of RT users WANT to see it, is at least a good sign for future box office numbers. That was my point.

Yea, I get that. But at the same time its pretty deceptive since wanting to see it, doesn't mean you actually will go out and see it. I mean Green Lantern had a 96% rating before opening and we know how well that worked out. I'm not saying this movie will perform that way but that I wish they just didn't have that function there in the first place.

 

[Punisher_MAX]

i hate the complaints that Cap is just too good of a guy and not tormented...SERIOUSLY?

 

[ElMariachi]

No offense, but that is a pretty over-generalized statement. I mean 2009's Best Picture "The Hurt Locker" was about as lighthearted as a war film can be. It had no political commentary like many modern war films. It was strictly a story about a kind of goofy soldier saving the day in a few instances.

I don't think it's an generalization. The Hurt Locker was a realistic war drama. I don't think you can make the same comparison to an unrealistic, summer superhero movie. These types of movies are supposed to clean, easy fun yet they are being held to Oscar standards by these critics. What exactly were critics looking to be included in this movie that wasn't there? They haven't specified therefore it leads me to believe they came into the film looking to shred it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

More of the same of what? I don't recall seeing any other World War II action movies about a science fiction creation fighting Nazis that is tied to a cinematic universe culminating in one big movie.

And how was it by the numbers? These reviewers didn't even explain this in any of their reviews. The hero is a good guy that saves the day? That is considered by-the-numbers? Just further indication about what's wrong with Hollywood and people in general. Everything has to be dark, moody and have a twist. We just can't have a straight up adventure movie that is fun for everybody.

An origin story is an origin story, if it follows the formula of other origin stories. The characters, who are usually broadly written, and setting are irrelevant if you are pretty much telling the same story again.

And no, not everything has to be dark and moody. Harry Potter is far from dark and moody. It is certainly emotional, but for 8 films it showed families will go and watch fun adventure films. Same for Nolan's Batman.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I don't think it's an generalization. The Hurt Locker was a realistic war drama. I don't think you can make the same comparison to an unrealistic, summer superhero movie. These types of movies are supposed to clean, easy fun yet they are being held to Oscar standards by these critics. What exactly were critics looking to be included in this movie that wasn't there? They haven't specified therefore it leads me to believe they came into the film looking to shred it.

That is what Harry Potter and Nolan's Batman is. What you want is for critics to look are cookie cutter films and think well ok, they didn't offend me in anyway and it wasn't completely incompetent, good score.

You want them to get a pass because they come out in the summer.

 

[Hurm...]

2 hours later and STILL none of the positive reviews from earlier have been posted. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Here we go .... was only a matter of time before this thread degenerated into Harry Potter and Nolan's batman.

 

[Suzanne78]

GET THESE M***********G HARRY POTTERS AND CHRISTOPHER NOLANS OUT OF MY CAP THREAD!!

/sljackson

 

[Punisher_MAX]

double post

 

[ElMariachi]

That is what Harry Potter and Nolan's Batman is. What you want is for critics to look are cookie cutter films and think well ok, they didn't offend me in anyway and it wasn't completely incompetent, good score.

You want them to get a pass because they come out in the summer.

How do you even know that Captain America is a cookie cutter movie? You haven't seen it and the reviewers you are trusting have not told us why it was cookie cutter at all. If good guy prevails over bad guy is cookie cutter, than look no further than TDK and all of the Harry Potter movies. For the record, Harry Potter hasn't been an exciiting adventure movie since Goblet of Fire in my opinon. They have progressively becoming more boring, dark, and moody since then. Only this last one was great because he finally fought Voldemort after years of build-up.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

begins is bland as hell, that's fixed in its sequel.

No it isn't...because even in TDK bland things can be pinpointed.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Here we go .... was only a matter of time before this thread degenerated into Harry Potter and Nolan's batman.

Then perhaps people should not throw a blanket statement about how critics do not like fun, thrilling, creative action/adventure films, when there are clear examples of them doing so.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

How do you even know that Captain America is a cookie cutter movie? You haven't seen it and the reviewers you are trusting have not told us why it was cookie cutter at all. If good guy prevails over bad guy is cookie cutter, than look no further than TDK and all of the Harry Potter movies. For the record, Harry Potter hasn't been an exciiting adventure movie since Goblet of Fire in my opinon. They have progressively becoming more boring, dark, and moody since then. Only this last one was great because he finally fought Voldemort after years of build-up.

Although I am anticipating the movie, I think that you are giving it too much credit by being opposed to the opinion piece that you responded too. No offense but it doesn't take a scientist to figure out what it is about the movie that makes it fall in the 'bland' category. Yes we like Cap, but him beating up bad guys is nothing new, him fighting Red Skull is nothing new, him using his shield as a weapon and defense is nothing new, etc. To be fair and to also be fair, what I listed as examples is what is suppose to be related to a Captain America movie.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

Still no more reviews? lol

 

[ElMariachi]

2 hours later and STILL none of the positive reviews from earlier have been posted. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Yeah, what's the deal with that anyway?

I have heard speculation that WB is using Rotten Tomatoes to keep the Cap buzz down in order to benefit Harry Potter this weekend. Doesn't it seem a bit strange that Rotten Tomatoes has pretty much kept Captain America at a percentage just under the Fresh rating for almost an entire evening? It was past the Fresh rating but they put out one 'rotten' rating to kick it back down under 60.

 

[Surfer]

Yeah, what's the deal with that anyway?

I have heard speculation that WB is using Rotten Tomatoes to keep the Cap buzz down in order to benefit Harry Potter this weekend. Doesn't it seem a bit strange that Rotten Tomatoes has pretty much kept Captain America at a percentage just under the Fresh rating for almost an entire evening? It was past the Fresh rating but they put out one 'rotten' rating to kick it back down under 60.

Actually, it reached fresh ratings twice.

Surfer

 

[Hurm...]

Yeah, what's the deal with that anyway?

I have heard speculation that WB is using Rotten Tomatoes to keep the Cap buzz down in order to benefit Harry Potter this weekend. Doesn't it seem a bit strange that Rotten Tomatoes has pretty much kept Captain America at a percentage just under the Fresh rating for almost an entire evening? It was past the Fresh rating but they put out one 'rotten' rating to kick it back down under 60.

I would say something fishy is up, but Friends with Benefits also has only 10 reviews, so I think there is just something with the site.