The Official "DC dosent really know what they're doing, do they?" thread

[Kenda Man]

Oh, from around the middle to the end of season 1, the show was great. Season two had it's moments, but for the most part it was pretty meh. Though, the season finale was pretty good too. Not as good as season 1, but still one of the best the show had. It's worth a rent if you can find it on DVD.

Awesome, I will definitely take a second look then. I read how Ferro lad was on one episode and I freaked out and watched a brief clip on youtube of it. It was cool seeing his introduction. I plan to watch the whole episode and I hope to see Ferro lad punch out superboy like he did in the comic and take the bomb to the suneater. It would be cool if ferro lad's brother came back into the comics. I know its populated by a few heavy hitters as it is, Superboy, Mon-El, and Ultraboy, but they could always make room for a guy who can turn into iron.

 

[The Batman]

bump....why cant mark waid have didio's job?

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/40896

 

[BlackLantern]

bump....why cant mark waid have didio's job?

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/40896

because Mark Waid probably likes his sanity?? DiDio has the worst job in DC Comics because no matter what happens...he will take the blame

 

[BrianWilly]

bump....why cant mark waid have didio's job?

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/40896

BM: 52 was a series that featured multiple writers on the same weekly title, of which you were one. Was that a difficult challenge?

MW: Oh, it was an unbelievable challenge. But there is not one ounce of PR or fabrication in the statement, "We loved it because all four writers respected one another immensely." Grant Morrison, Geoff Johns, Greg Rucka and I viewed one another as peers, each able to bring something unique to the process. But under the coordination of editor Steve Wacker (and later, Michael Siglain), we had two or three big in-person summits, participated in big conference calls each week, and kept in constant contact with one another throughout.

The biggest challenge was actually, wisely, kept from us by Steve. EIC Dan Didio, who first championed the concept, hated what we were doing. H-A-T-E-D 52. Would storm up and down the halls telling everyone how much he hated it. And Steve, God bless him, kept us out of the loop on that particular drama. Siglain, having less seniority, was less able to do so, and there's one issue of 52 near the end that was written almost totally by Dan and Keith Giffen because none of the writers could plot it to Dan's satisfaction. Which was and is his prerogative as EIC, but man, there's little more demoralizing than taking the ball down to the one-yard line and then being benched by the guy who kept referring to COUNTDOWN as "52 done right."

 

[Hush]

Waid will soon be the EIC, I can see it.

 

[BrianWilly]

As much as that would please me on all levels, I doubt that's going to happen anytime soon considering that he's EiC of Boom! Studios for the foreseeable future.

 

[The Batman]

yeah, that part left me particulary gobsmacked...

 

[yenaled]

BM: 52 was a series that featured multiple writers on the same weekly title, of which you were one. Was that a difficult challenge?

MW: Oh, it was an unbelievable challenge. But there is not one ounce of PR or fabrication in the statement, "We loved it because all four writers respected one another immensely." Grant Morrison, Geoff Johns, Greg Rucka and I viewed one another as peers, each able to bring something unique to the process. But under the coordination of editor Steve Wacker (and later, Michael Siglain), we had two or three big in-person summits, participated in big conference calls each week, and kept in constant contact with one another throughout.

The biggest challenge was actually, wisely, kept from us by Steve. EIC Dan Didio, who first championed the concept, hated what we were doing. H-A-T-E-D 52. Would storm up and down the halls telling everyone how much he hated it. And Steve, God bless him, kept us out of the loop on that particular drama. Siglain, having less seniority, was less able to do so, and there's one issue of 52 near the end that was written almost totally by Dan and Keith Giffen because none of the writers could plot it to Dan's satisfaction. Which was and is his prerogative as EIC, but man, there's little more demoralizing than taking the ball down to the one-yard line and then being benched by the guy who kept referring to COUNTDOWN as "52 done right."

...

****ing hell.

 

[CBG]

the biggest challenge was actually, wisely, kept from us by steve. Eic dan didio, who first championed the concept, hated what we were doing. H-a-t-e-d 52. Would storm up and down the halls telling everyone how much he hated it. And steve, god bless him, kept us out of the loop on that particular drama. Siglain, having less seniority, was less able to do so, and there's one issue of 52 near the end that was written almost totally by dan and keith giffen because none of the writers could plot it to dan's satisfaction. Which was and is his prerogative as eic, but man, there's little more demoralizing than taking the ball down to the one-yard line and then being benched by the guy who kept referring to countdown as "52 done right."

failed.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

Wow - Countdown was one of the things that contributed to me falling out of DC comics for the most part. Good going Didio.

 

[BlackLantern]

Waid will soon be the EIC, I can see it.

at DC Comics, the title is Executive Editor

 

[Tron Bonne]

I didn't even read Countdown or all of 52 and I'm disgusted by that comment

 

[Manic]

The biggest challenge was actually, wisely, kept from us by Steve. EIC Dan Didio, who first championed the concept, hated what we were doing. H-A-T-E-D 52. Would storm up and down the halls telling everyone how much he hated it. And Steve, God bless him, kept us out of the loop on that particular drama. Siglain, having less seniority, was less able to do so, and there's one issue of 52 near the end that was written almost totally by Dan and Keith Giffen because none of the writers could plot it to Dan's satisfaction. Which was and is his prerogative as EIC, but man, there's little more demoralizing than taking the ball down to the one-yard line and then being benched by the guy who kept referring to COUNTDOWN as "52 done right."

I was making that exact same facial expression as I read that excerpt. It's... flabbergasting.

 

[WompuM]

Nice to see his take on the Flash run too. I like Waid. I don't like Didio. If there was one guy who doesn't get it, it's Didio. Who was EIC during the 90's?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Good interview with Waid. I always like hearing from him on pretty much anything that doesn't involve Spider-Man.

 

[SenseiofCheese]

That was probably one of the most entertaining interviews I've read in a long time. I love this kind of stuff, when people just say what's on their minds. Tell the truth, not the whole "everybody's friends everything is sweet as cherry pie" thing that's in every other interview ever.

 

[Spike_x1]

It's also pleasing to read how the LoSH was handled. Damn good interview.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I was surprised to find that Tom Peyer came up with the youth movement idea for Waid and Kitson's LoSH reboot. That one element made it my absolute favorite version of the Legion. So much potential there that, sadly, was never followed up on.

 

[yenaled]

Tom Peyer is a fantastic writer, I loved him so much on Flash recently.

Guy needs some major DC work.

I think he'd own on Booster Gold (for example).

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Peyer is one of my favorite underrated writers. His work on Hourman is part of what got me so excited for the DC universe several years ago, when I was just getting into DC in a big way. His Flash comics were much better than Waid's second go-'round (which I'm glad we finally got an explanation about). But he generally seems to get stuck with fill-in duty.

 

[BrianWilly]

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/040929-DiDio20.html

25. (could it be? Is this the end?) We’ve touched upon this briefly, but it does touch your desire for “iconic” states of characters – probably in the past 40 years (and that’s probably arguable) Wolverine has been the only character to appear with any true staying power... Why aren’t we seeing more characters that come out and are instant hits and get their own series, and really take off on htier own?

DD: It’s interesting – as you said, we’re trying to bring back characters to their iconic states, which allows others occasionally to get the spotlight, but when we do that, we get the response that people want the most recognizable version again. But, we’ve got characters like Magog in JSA and he started in Kingdom Come - he’s getting a chance to shine in that JSA story and in Brave and Bold. Power Girl is also another characters that we’re putting out there – she’s had tow miniseries over time, and now she has her own ongoing. She’s been around for more than 40 years, and it’s the first time she has her own series. We have a book called The Mighty out which is a new character. We’re always trying new ideas and new characters.

Oh, and just as an aside, I would probably add Spawn to the list of characters who’ve been introduced and were hits over the course of the past 30 to 40 years. Maybe Hellboy as well.

It’s a tough question to answer – why don’t the fans embrace new characters is what’s being asked as I see it. Believe me, I ask that question every day. And that doesn’t mean that we stop trying. Look at the JSA of today – there are a lot of characters with familiar names, but new characters. The same goes with Teen Titans – new characters are in that team, some with familiar names, some completely new. Yet going back to what we started with last time – the question about who should be in the JLA. If we move too far from having an “iconic” JLA, readers tell us they don’t recognize it and it needs to be more iconic. And then, like this question, readers want to know why there are no new characters. It’s a circle we go around on every day.

And there are other things – we have a different distribution system now compared to what we had then, to use your example, with Wolverine; the audience has changed; there are more choices...the question you’re asking about why no one has created a new breakout character is similar – not exact, but similar – to someone asking why there are no hit television shows anymore that got ratings like were seen with All in the Family or M*A*S*H. The times are different, and the market has changed – but like I said, that doesn’t mean we’ll ever give up or stop trying.

And now my question for readers – this last question got me thinking...when was the last time an original character – a brand new character – got you excited and you followed them in their own series?

I don't even understand what he's saying anymore. The question could have been stated much better...but never, and I mean never, have I seen such a convoluted and hilarious attempt to both dodge and appease a loaded question. About 95% of the examples he cites have nothing to do with it, and just makes him sound like he has no clue what readers are actually thinking. Magog? Seriously? And oh yeah, the 85934 random cast members of JSA are totally hitting the spot for us. And the Mighty isn't even set in DC continuity, much less a staying presence of any kind, much as I'm enjoying the character.

 

[Hush]

Yeah he needs to be fired by whoever did the hiring of him.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

What does he mean by an original character? I loved Jaime Reyes, but he's not completely original because he's a legacy character.

 

[WompuM]

I think he means someone like... God... original character...ummm.... no idea.

 

[Lucid]

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