Homecoming The Official "Don't Panic" Thread

[Spider2099]

When I think about his role I keep thinking about when the writers said, "more headaches for us" or something along those lines. I think his role may be more important than we think.

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about that. Who knows at this point. I'm just glad that Spider-Man will be involved at all in Civil War.

 

[BatsDC]

I'm sure the deal between Sony and Marvel has been in the works for a while now.
As many people have said before, I'm sure Marvel had two scripts, one with Spidey and one without Spidey.
Spidey's role in CW might be small, but I think it'll be an important one.

You don't launch someone like Spider-Man, who has no prior ties to any of the MCU, into this universe by giving him a super important role. Black Panther at least has ties to the current MCU - Klaw is in Age of Ultron, and Ultron's vibranium will come from Wakanda.

 

[Spider2099]

I do think that Spider-Man's role will be important, but not SUPER IMPORTANT. The semantics of the word "important" are open to much interpretation.

 

[harryoscop]

You don't launch someone like Spider-Man, who has no prior ties to any of the MCU, into this universe by giving him a super important role. Black Panther at least has ties to the current MCU - Klaw is in Age of Ultron, and Ultron's vibranium will come from Wakanda.

I never said "Super important" I think Peter's secret identity and the dangers of it being revealed will give Steve even more of a reason to try to stop Tony Stark.
He's just this kid from queens trying to do the right thing, him revealing his secret identity would put all of his loved ones at risk, I mean just imagine The Kingpin going after Aunt May.
I think this will be a wake-up call for Steve.

 

[Spider2099]

I don't think Spider-Man is going to unmask himself to the public in Civil War. I really, really doubt it.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

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[BatsDC]

I never said "Super important" I think Peter's secret identity and the dangers of it being revealed will give Steve even more of a reason to try to stop Tony Stark.
He's just this kid from queens trying to do the right thing, him revealing his secret identity would put all of his loved ones at risk, I mean just imagine The Kingpin going after Aunt May.
I think this will be a wake-up call for Steve.

But why should we care about Spidey unmasking? Or more to the point; why should anyone in the MCU care? We haven't heard a thing about Spider-Man in the MCU, so him unmasking would have no impact, nor any substance. A vigilante nobody's heard of unmasking shouldn't be the cause of any conflict in the movie. There really isn't a logical place for Spidey in the movie beyond a brief introduction, or montage of heroes in some sort of scene establishing resgistration.

 

[Surfer]

But why should we care about Spidey unmasking? Or more to the point; why should anyone in the MCU care? We haven't heard a thing about Spider-Man in the MCU, so him unmasking would have no impact, nor any substance. A vigilante nobody's heard of unmasking shouldn't be the cause of any conflict in the movie. There really isn't a logical place for Spidey in the movie beyond a brief introduction, or montage of heroes in some sort of scene establishing resgistration.

Unless they change Spider-man's story a little and his unmasking leads to the death of someone close to him within the movie like Gwen Stacey. Also, I don't know if this is even possible, but if they are able to cast Peter Parker / Spider-man soon I wouldn't mind if it was able to go down like this.

End Credits: Age of Ultron..... Peter Parker is on a field trip and gets bit by a radio active spider.

Opening credits Civil War...... A quick run down of Spider-man's origin with Uncle Ben being killed and showing some clips of him being a student, Flash Thompson being a bully & Gwen Stacey being in a relationship with him, stuff like that. It could be done in a similar fashion to how the Incredible Hulk Opening Credits Intro was put together.

Movie intro of Civil War...... is something like the intro to Winter Soldier, where there is a intro villian battled for the first few minutes of the movie, except instead of it being Captain America fighting Batroc, in Civil War it is Spider-man battling Green Goblin. Green Goblin is being bested and escapes.

Then it starts up with S.H.I.E.L.D. tasking Maria Hill with having all Super Hero's register with the government as well as their true identities. It is being marketed as it is a public safety concern and therefore it is the governments responsibility.

Then the movie shifts to Captain America and Iron Man having disagreements about registration and how much power should the government really have. This leads to a divide between the 2 and alliances within the Avengers start forming for both sides.

Eventually Spider-man comes into the mix and he is convinced by Iron Man that releasing his identity to the public will help defuse this feud that is brewing with the heroes. So, Spider-man unmasks himself as Peter Parker, and Norman Osborn takes advantage of this information and seeks out Gwen Stacey and kills her along with a bunch of other kids from Peter's school (This event can somewhat mirror the events of the New Warriors and Nitro killing the School Childeren). This leads to Captain America and Iron Man's feud reaching a boiling point and it breaks out into a full out war of the heroes.

Some really spectacular Hero Battles take place, but while the heroes are preoccupied with each other it allows the villains to do what they want, and it eventually even leads to Crossbones killing Cap.

Then we have Spider-man going into a Solo movie in 2017, with a Green Goblin on the loose responsible for killing Gwen Stacey. He can remain a villain in the background that Spider-man plans to hunt down and bring to justice, at this point he still does not know it is Norman Osborn. This allows for the main villain to be either Kraven the Hunter or perhaps Mysterio, and a Green Goblin to be a returning menace in like Spider-man 4 or 5.

Then have Captain America return during Infinity Wars Part 2 as part of the results of Thanos either playing with the Time or Reality gems.

Well just some thoughts.

Surfer

 

[BatsDC]

But it's Captain America: Civil War, not Spider-Man: Civil War.

 

[Surfer]

Well Captain America would still be the main focus of the movie and his battle with Iron Man & the fact that he ends up giving his life essentially for what he believes in. I simply focused on the parts on how Spider-man could tie into it, which makes it seem more like Spider-man's story, but in reality this would be a not very lengthy but important role within the movie. Captain America and to a slightly lesser degree Iron Man would be the 2 primary characters within the story.

Surfer

 

[BatsDC]

Still, opening with Spidey's origin and fighting Green Goblin? That's Spidey movie territory. That'd be like Iron Man 3 opening with Thor fighting someone for 15 mins.

 

[Spider2099]

The movie isn't going to open with a Spider-Man battle. It's a Captain America/Iron Man movie mainly. Spider-Man will probably have a glorified cameo, sort of like Black Widow in Iron Man 2.

 

[BatsDC]

The movie isn't going to open with a Spider-Man battle. It's a Captain America/Iron Man movie mainly. Spider-Man will probably have a glorified cameo, sort of like Black Widow in Iron Man 2.

exactly

 

[harryoscop]

The movie isn't going to open with a Spider-Man battle. It's a Captain America/Iron Man movie mainly. Spider-Man will probably have a glorified cameo, sort of like Black Widow in Iron Man 2.

This I totally wouldn't mind.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

The movie isn't going to open with a Spider-Man battle. It's a Captain America/Iron Man movie mainly. Spider-Man will probably have a glorified cameo, sort of like Black Widow in Iron Man 2.

black widow's role in IM2 definitely wasn't a glorified cameo, she was a legit supporting character in that movie. spidey's role in cap3 will be much smaller.

 

[Surfer]

Perhaps, but not having any introduction to Spider-man and just having him start appearing in any sort of significant role would seem odd to me, despite the general publics obvious knowledge of the character the reboot of him suggests that you try to forget any previous versions that have come before and that this version is now official. Also, despite the fact that I have Spider-man as the intro character it is important to understand what I have suggested is part of setting up the Civil War for Captain America and Iron Man which is the theme of the movie. In my version had Spider-man been able to stop Green Goblin, then Green Goblin would not have been able to kill Gwen Stacey, and as a result Captain America and Iron Man might have been able to work out their differences in opinion and it would not have lead to the death of Captain America. I mean I understand that Spider-man's popularity might make it seem like he is now the focus, but I have seen James bond films where another 00 Agent is killed by a film's enemy and Jame's Bond is no where in the intro, and I never felt like it was not a James Bond film. It was just a set up, which is essentially what this equates to except that it is using more popular characters to do it.

Surfer

 

[BatsDC]

Which is why I think it should be only Peter.

 

[harryoscop]

Which is why I think it should be only Peter.

 

[Surfer]

Which is why I think it should be only Peter.

Well I would be okay with Peter Parker appearing as a photographer & pre-Spider-man character in Civil War. However, if they introduce Spider-man as a hero I think it would require more set up which is why I suggested what I did.

Also, let's say in the post credit scenes of Civil War that Peter Parker gets bit by a Spider. Then I guess in his solo movie they could do Spider-man's origin summed up during the Opening Credits similar to the Incredible Hulk, and then move on to Kraven or Mysterio as the villain. I think that could work well, but I have a feeling some people will be disappointed that Spider-man did not truly appear in Civil War as it seemed to be suggested by Marvel & Sony.

Surfer

 

[BatsDC]

Well I would be okay with Peter Parker appearing as a photographer & pre-Spider-man character in Civil War. However, if they introduce Spider-man as a hero I think it would require more set up which is why I suggested what I did.

Also, let's say in the post credit scenes of Civil War that Peter Parker gets bit by a Spider. Then I guess in his solo movie they could do Spider-man's origin summed up during the Opening Credits similar to the Incredible Hulk, and then move on to Kraven or Mysterio as the villain. I think that could work well, but I have a feeling some people will be disappointed that Spider-man did not truly appear in Civil War as it seemed to be suggested by Marvel & Sony.

Surfer

Yeah, that scenario would be ideal. Alternatively, one possibility I thought of was having Peter as a photographer where a big battle breaks out, and quickly suiting up as Spider-Man to save some bystanders or something who get caught in the crossfire. Something simple like that would be nice.

 

[harryoscop]

I just want to see Spidey standing side by side with Captain America and Iron Man.

 

[Rowsdower!]

I just want to see Spidey standing side by side with Captain America and Iron Man.

Me too.


In the Amazing Spider-Man 2 costume or something similar.

 

[harryoscop]

Me too.


In the Amazing Spider-Man 2 costume or something similar.

That costume is of the past now, give us something new.

 

[Human Torch]

I wonder if the "No Origin" thing is just for his own movie? I wonder if somehow Peter gets bitten by the spider in Civil War which leads to most of the other events happening "off screen" and maybe a cameo in costume at the end?

Not saying thats what I think or even want to happen. But it's gonna be awful weird to have a fully realized Spider-Man just show up in Civil War.


"Alright Ock,you've had it pal! I......Wait a minute guys....did I wander into the wrong movie?"

 

[Surfer]

Yeah, that scenario would be ideal. Alternatively, one possibility I thought of was having Peter as a photographer where a big battle breaks out, and quickly suiting up as Spider-Man to save some bystanders or something who get caught in the crossfire. Something simple like that would be nice.

Yeah, but if he suits up in CW it basically makes it seem like Spider-man was there all along, and I really don't like that idea at all. A character of this importance needs his origin in the MCU even if it is wrapped up quickly and to avoid it feeling like part of the Amazing Spider man with a recast actor.

Surfer