The Official Flash thread

[the_ultimate_evil]

did it show the back of wallys "new" costume is the belt the same as the front or go all the way round

 

[Kevin Smith]

^^ didn't show it yet. My bet is it's the same on the back.

 

[Assassin]

EVS had this to say

"As for seeing people run, I've seen plenty. But they were all girls running away from me. So the frontal running shots are tough for me. "

 

[flash13]

OK. Anyone who's seen my posts knows that Barry is my favorite Flash and that I think he is also the BEST Flash. You probably also know that I wanted him back for a longtime, and am glad DC has finally brought him back. But Flash: Rebirth....I mean I get they're establishing the characters for their roles/arcs for the next few years or so, so maybe it is really important that they do this (also trying to establish Barry's character, which I also get), but all I am saying is was the mini really necessary? I mean Barry seemed fine in final Crisis, even tho we didn't get much from his perspective. In fact, I preferred how he was written in Final Crisis to how Johns wrote him the first issue or two of Rebirth. It's just taken forever to come out and the story hasn't been worth the wait. I am sorry but it's true.....in my opinion anyway. the other thing that kinda bugs me is the retcon to Barry's background, I'm not sure why it was really necessary to have his mom killed by Zoom, that being the reason he went into forensics. It is interesting and it works, but at the same time isn't it kinda admitting that there was no "better" way (which I disagree with, BTW) to flesh out Barry's backstory than giving him a loved ones death, which is pretty much a cliche in any superhero story now? Don't get me wrong I prefer it to Wally West's stuff, especially his last stories but still.....I dunno. For some reason I think I'd have been more comfortable with it immediately if it were done in the late eighties when DC rebooted Superman, Batman, etc, it would have fit in perfectly there. It's like Man of Steel but for Flash (I really loved Byrne's Supes, BTW, which is kinda funny). Hopefully Johns' Flash will get better once Rebirth is over. Barry in Blackest Night has been awesome, it's hard to believe that the same guy who wrote him in BN wrote him in FR (not that I am complaining). Anyway, anxious to read #6. I won't hold my breath though.

* Thawne messing with Barry's past but Barry still becoming a forensic scientist and The Flash reminds me a LOT of the new Star trek film, btw.

Yeah, we really didn't need another tragedy made him a hero guy. That's one of the things about Barry that made him special. His uncle didn't die, his parents didn't die he just became a superhero to help people. Now though he's just another tragic hero.

 

[Brown Lantern]

He's going to save his mother people, so just relax.

I still cant believe everyone is so mad about Zoom killing his mother (which is at least a really evil thing to do) and no one is mad that he used time travel and its infinate possibities to push a small child down the stairs (wtf was the point).

 

[Hush]

Your right Brownie, the real crime is when he pushed Barry down the stairs! So Mean!

 

[Tron Bonne]

I don't think any is mad about Zoom killing Barry's mom. I thought people were glad about that revelation

 

[Kevin Smith]

Yeah, we really didn't need another tragedy made him a hero guy. That's one of the things about Barry that made him special. His uncle didn't die, his parents didn't die he just became a superhero to help people. Now though he's just another tragic hero.

Exactly. I won't mind it as much as long as it doesn't become the recurring theme of the character, for instance, that's not what I want his book to be about, I don't want it to be like Batman or whatever where they're always talking about it. Batman even said that Barry is the man he would have liked to have been had his parents not been murdered, meaning Barry was never consumed with "vengeance". But that is sort of ironic now because both Barry's parents, like Hal Jordan's, are now dead.

I've always looked at the silver age/golden age comics as being old news reels of the characters, and the stuff like Idenitity Crisis and Johns stuff as being how the characters really were. Mostly because they felt like "real" people and had sharp personalities, and after seeing what drives them and what makes them think the way they do it gives the old silver age stories more weight if you know what I mean. Like you can look at them and apply what you now know about them, their background, etc, and it actually enhances the story and makes sense, doesn't contradict it at all. That's what I like about a lot of the modern age writing. But now with Flash...if his mother's death is going to be a major part of his book then I can't really look at them the same.

Again, I liken it to Man of Steel and other Post Crisis retoolings, this is the Post Crisis Barry Allen, he's just a few years late (pun haha), or even like an "Ultimate Flash" type thing, or like the new Star Trek film. the characters are the same, Barry is still accused of being "lazy" and is late for everything, is still a forensic scientist, the characters have the same personalities, only now they have different circumstances in their lives.

He's going to save his mother people, so just relax.

I honestly don't think he will. The big reason being they referenced it in Blackest Night, which is set after Rebirth. So he doesn't save his mother it seems. That and it seems like they've tried to establish that as the reason he went into forensics and why Iris West had dinner with him the night of the accident. A lot of good has come out of Flash: Rebirth, but I think his mother's murder is one of the cons. Other than that I have absolutely loved the book. If it isn't a great Flash story, it's at least a great Reverse Flash story. I mean he is one of the most threatening villains out there, I am glad he's been better established as that. That, and I think he is waaaaaay more threatening/evil than Hunter (cool). t: Which brings me to my next point...

I still cant believe everyone is so mad about Zoom killing his mother (which is at least a really evil thing to do) and no one is mad that he used time travel and its infinate possibities to push a small child down the stairs (wtf was the point).

I don't think anyone is mad about Zoom killing Barry's mom. I thought people were glad about that revelation

I really do like that Thawne killed Barry's mom, it explains a lot; why Barry was never able to identify the weapon (it's from the future), how evil and vindictive the Reverse Flash is (gets his jollies from pushing kids down stairs and killing their dogs...jerk), so if someone has to kill her I think it's great that it's him, he has always stalked Barry/treated him like an experiment, and this goes back to the silver age. That said tho, I still hope they fix this Barry's parents stuff, even if it is Thawne's fault. I mean even if they fix it it's still pretty damn evil that Thawne actually messed with time like that. The only thing I have seen to suggest that that might be a possibility is the synopsis from Rebirth #6:

"In a battle along the outskirts of time, the secrets of the Speed Force have been revealed! The new archnemesis of those who ride the lightning is coming for Iris Allen. And the Barry Allen you knew is gone forever...or is he? What change does Wally West face? What destiny will Kid Flash choose? Prepare to meet a Flash Family that's both familiar and different...and get to the starting line for the next epic adventures of the Speed Force!"

http://www.dccomics.com/dcu/comics/?cm=12870

...but then again if that pertains to him saving his mom then why the reference in BN? I'm so confused.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

All I know is Barry's been pretty good in Blackest Night, so I'm ignoring Flash: Rebirth and just looking forward to when Barry's fully reinstalled in the DC universe's present as his usual determined, upbeat self.

 

[yenaled]

Final Crisis and Blackest Night were all the resurrection Barry needed.

But I guess Rebirth has been selling buckets.

 

[flash13]

Final Crisis and Blackest Night were all the resurrection Barry needed.

But I guess Rebirth has been selling buckets.

I just read it to follow Wally West.

 

[NightBeetle]

Blackest Night: Flash #1 Preview

Price: $2.99
Release Date: December 3, 2009

The Flashes of Two Cities - Barry Allen and Wally West - battle the undead Rogues. Will the legendary speedsters be able to handle the Black Lantern Rogues' revenge?

Plus, witness the resurrection of Barry's greatest enemy, the Reverse Flash in this hyper-speed miniseries event reuniting the fan-favorite FLASH creative team of Geoff Johns and Scott Kolins!

 

[MadVillainy]

Hot damn

 

[Drakon]

I love that layout and art direction.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Now that's a Flash story. Can't wait.

 

[Sawyer]

The top panel of The Flash's eyes zooming towards us at superspeed reminds me of New Frontier.

 

[bored]

Blackest Night: Flash #1 Preview

Sweeeeet. I've been waiting for them to come back to the Rogues since BN#1. It seemed like they were setting up something great, and then just didn't touch it for a while.

 

[WompuM]

He's going to save his mother people, so just relax.

I still cant believe everyone is so mad about Zoom killing his mother (which is at least a really evil thing to do) and no one is mad that he used time travel and its infinate possibities to push a small child down the stairs (wtf was the point).

Your right Brownie, the real crime is when he pushed Barry down the stairs! So Mean!

You guys obviously haven't been keeping up with the Womp Nation. :shame:

 

[WompuM]

Wait a sec. The Rogue's received Barry's message? I thought he was anti-rogue, as opposed to Wally. It's not that he wouldn't warn them, but how is he communicating with them?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

He seems to just be broadcasting the message to everyone. And he is anti-Rogue--he calls them "super-thugs" on the last page of the preview, whereas they've earned a bit more respect from Wally.

 

[Kevin Smith]

^^ KICKASS!!! Can't wait for the new Flash series. Glad they didn't delay it. Boy Barry looks great by Scott Kolins I have always liked his art.

 

[storyteller]

Barry will have to eventually face the fact that he will need to start doing things Wally way(which barring his own personal zoom and his rich episode was good).

Also it would appear that Barry mother is dead as of BN. Though its always possible that a miscommunication occurred with the staff.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Spoiler

I thought the part with Reverse-Flash was awesome, perhaps the Black Lanterns that aren't destroyed will come back to life once Nekron is defeated? Barry said something about Blackest Night possibly being the reason Reverse-Flash came back. And I am so pumped to see Captain Cold kick some ass.

 

[Hush]

Yeah but I think that was just Barry guessing HFMF.

 

[Kenda Man]

That, and I think he is waaaaaay more threatening/evil than Hunter (cool). t:

I do agree with the majority of your comments, but I think Hunter Zolomon was an awesome Reverse Flash for Wally. He may not be as powerful as Professor Thawne, but he is definitely deadly. I thought the motivation of Hunter becoming ZOOM was neat, Hunter pleading with Wally to go back in time and fix the incident with the Clown. And Wally saying "No." He also understood the psyche of meta criminals from being a meta criminal profiler. And His sick obession of wanting to make Wally a better hero was cool. I also thought it was neat to see him move without the speedforce and is attached to a blackhole making him move outside of time. Wally wasn't fast enough even with all the speedsters' speed he borrowed and his word bubbles were great, the words all attached as if it's going fast. Hunter Has to be re-powered with time. It was messed up Inertia took ZOOM's powers from him in Rogue's Revenge.

I'm itching to see the interaction of Barry and his Rogues. I thought Rebirth focusing on Prof. Zoom has been great, but the meat and potatoes for me will be seeing Barry interact with Capt. Cold. I'm curious how often the Rogues will be in either Central City with barry, or Keystone city with Wally. Or will Johns create more Rogues for the both of them?