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Should I pick up Flash rebirth?
The first issue wasn't that great (a bit slow, ironically), but if you want to know what's going on with the Flashes, it's basically the only place to find out. Well, you could get it second-hand from us on here, but Flash: Rebirth is a divisive series and all of us are biased. It certainly doesn't have the explosive beginning that GL: Rebirth did, if that's what you're asking. It's more contemplative about what Barry means to the DC universe than GL: Rebirth was about Hal.
 
Well, GL was fixing a lot of GL continuity. Hal Jordan should not be the Spectre. The Corps had run its course as being in shambles, and it was about time GL took center stage again.

With the Flash, it should be Bart. Barry had 20 years, then Wally, and now it should be Bart. People say all the time that Wally deserves the title, but ya' know, I enjoyed FMA a helluva lot more than the Wild Wests.
 
I found the first issue boring and cheesy. Every one is in love with Barry Allen, Barry did this, Barry did that, Barry made me run again, Barry gave birth to president Clinton, etc...
Honestly, it is nice to see Barry back and all, but as Flash ..... god, I hope this serie won't be developed like GL was ! Meaning : around everything presented in Rebirth. No time for the friends, guilty or not guilty. period. Wow. That is not how I remember Barry, and above all that is not how I remember or want Flash. I did not buy the whole "my mother was murdered", I did not buy the "Mr Garrick", I did not buy the "guilty, not guilty", I did not buy the "flash ring, nor the flash fact, nor the suit, nor the small wing on the boots nor the belt", and above all, I did not buy the Bart part "Wally is Flash" sequence. The first time I like Bart ? Come on ! It is a well-known way to do things : at the beginning of the story a guy (bart for instance) hate the main character for all of the reasons fans or logic would find. Then at the end of the story, the main character proved Bart that he is worth it and the guy changed his mind about the main character. :whatever: Supposely, all reluctant fans will be "ah ok it is nice in the end".
When I saw Barry running I was "WTF is that?", looks like a copy of Wally.
By the way I re-read the issue several times, and every time I saw the first pic of Wally, I was "oh hey it is Flash", and I think he was more impressive running fast around his kids than Barry in the whole issue. Not sure how I should comprehend his attitude towards his kids.
In the end, if someone told me the whole book were a kind of "back on krypton 12 parts adventure", I would like/believe it. The only thing I liked was the format of the adventure : you really feel that they put a lot of effort putting the Flash in the spotlight.
And again, when i saw Barry I thought that in some ways it could have been good to have Barry back as the civil persona, as a detectiv, as a police scientist, not being Flash at all, but in the Flash world anyway. my 2 cents.
And the art ? I did not find it good nor so-geniously-great. Good but far from great. Wally does not need a new suit to make him visually different from Barry, he already is, IMO. And I think Barry's uniform s*cks. I think the Wally's suit was the excellent maturated idea of Barry's suit, a definitive suit.
barry is the new black flash
That would be a great idea. To fool everyone about the status of Barry allen. Fight death within Death. I would find it interesting.
It's more contemplative about what Barry means to the DC universe than GL: Rebirth was about Hal.
I disagree Corpulent. Every time you talk about Hal, it is always to tell that everything about him is him. I disagree completely, GL:rebirth was not about hal's rebirth but about the whole GL Corps rebirth, and the effect of Hal's rebirth on everyone.
 
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I disagree Corpulent. Every time you talk about Hal, it is always to tell that everything about him is him. I disagree completely, GL:rebirth was not about hal's rebirth but about the whole GL Corps rebirth, and the effect of Hal's rebirth on everyone.

I see where your coming from. A few things need to be taken under consideration and that this is the first issue. They did a good job leaving the reader with a few question like who is this mysterious killer in the beginning, Barry saying the speed force is trying to take him back, Bart being leary of Barry's return, the death of the Black Flash and why did Savitar turn to dust when Barry touched him?

I will definitely follow the remaining four issues, but I remember reading something that Johns had mention in interviews that it's going to show the legacy of the speedsters and will show how they are connected, maybe beyond the speed force. Time will tell. The book had a good start, was it the end all be all? No, but I think it's going in a positive direction. It's hard not to be critical due to the hype around it, but I think the first issue is a good indicator of what the pace of the story will be. I want to see Barry's interaction with his rogues.
 
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The first issue wasn't that great (a bit slow, ironically), but if you want to know what's going on with the Flashes, it's basically the only place to find out. Well, you could get it second-hand from us on here, but Flash: Rebirth is a divisive series and all of us are biased. It certainly doesn't have the explosive beginning that GL: Rebirth did, if that's what you're asking. It's more contemplative about what Barry means to the DC universe than GL: Rebirth was about Hal.

Thanks, i bought it today, and well, despite the importance of Barry that they're telling us, i still don't give a **** about him.

I've read plenty Barry comics (though I've never known of his Mother's murder) and I just don't find him all that interesting. As far as Flashes go, make mine Wally :o

I'll be coming in here to stay updated with the Flash Family, though.
 
The murder of his mother/mystery with his father is a retcon. I'm pretty sure Johns mentioned that in an interview on Comic Book Resources or IGN or Newsarama or something.

I'm trying to give Barry a fair shake since I don't dislike him, I dislike the regression. But he does come off pretty unlikeable in the issue and the surprise tragedy with his parents feels very tacked-on.
 
Of course, because no one is just heroic by nature, they need a trauma in their past.
 
theyre trying to make him dark and edgy... ooooooooooo barry has a dark past... blah blah blah... i just dont get why barry has to supplant wally as the flash... jay has always been allowed to remain the flash... i wouldnt give a crap if their were 3 flashes... they could even do a flash comics monthly with half the book for barry in central city and the other half with wally in keystone... they are doing split books now anyway, this would have been the perfect opportunity for that...
 
why did he say Hal was a cop in the first few pages?
 
yes Space Cop....Kyle and Guy are like Space Detectives....a little higher up on the ladder
 
Yeah, that caught me off gaurd. Hal's a pilot and a soldier.
 
Say, what exactly is Wally West doing for a living nowadays? Did he ever get over that dumbtarded unemployment thing?
 
Not as far as I know. He's probably mooching off Iris and the Garricks or something. God forbid he ever actually be competent and get his life in order. That would be too adult-like of him.
hes not a soldier...
Right, he's an airman. :)
 
Barry Allen and Bart were my favorite flashes. I think Barry should be the flash and then if he dies again it should be Bart
 
i think wally AND barry AND jay can all be flashes and bart can hang with barry or wally or even both...
 
Continuing my Flash/Godfather analysis.

Bart definitely fits the role as Andy Garcia. Sure, he's not as good as Vito or Michael right away, but he has potential and no one can argue that. The biggest problem with him as the Don was that Godfather III as a whole was executed so poorly. Much like how Flash:FMA had so much trouble getting off the ground.
 
I agree. There's nothing wrong with Bart. The Fastest Man Alive series just sucked giant ass. I read the first couple issues with an open mind, trying to put Wally's abrupt and unexplained departure aside (which was strike 1 against Bart's tenure, in my opinion--you gotta have closure for the last guy before you bring in the new one). The simple fact is that the writers had no idea what they were doing and Ken Lashley is a somewhat dodgy artist.
 
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