The Official Flash thread

[Paradox1]

I've just started to read the Flash again I haven't read for a long time. Bart's story weren't doing it for me as a fan of the Flash so I stopped reading. I'm really excited about Barry being back and what they do with him.I'm a huge Geoff Johns fans from his work on Green Lantern so I know he'll do right by the character.

 

[Seibrix]

Lol thats right. They already used that(good run too). Well I guess thats that. Long live the silver age.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I never had a problem with Wally's kids. The problem was that people wrote pretty crappy stories around them. Waid's focus on the kids was too much, too fast. Peyer got rid of the super-fast aging threat, so they're fine now and they could've been the basis for better stories, only Wally's comic was canceled shortly after. It always amuses me how comic fans claim to love progress and character arcs but then point at marriages and kids as detriments to a character.

 

[Anubis]

Maaaaaannnnn f**k Barry Allen.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

You can progress without getting married and having annoying children though

 

[Anubis]

Like for instance, having kids that aren't annoying out of wedlock.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Which is why Roy Harper is the alpha male of the DC Universe. Woulda said Ollie but he went and married that betch Canary.

high-five

 

[TheCorpulent1]

You can progress without getting married and having annoying children though

You can, but you can also progress them with those things. There's nothing inherently wrong with a man growing up, getting married, and having children.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

No, not at all. But like you said, those kids took over Wally's life and book unfortunately. I prefer parents like.....Deathstroke

 

[TheCorpulent1]

So fault the writer, not the kids.

 

[Ion Kenshin]

The problem I tend to see with people who write kids into comics is that most people seem to equate child to annoying. Which is hardly the case. Kids are not always annoying. Yes they have their moments and yes there are some kids who are annoying 24/7 but it is not true for all. It is possible to write kids into comics and not make them insanely annoying.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Roy's daughter isn't annoying at all.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

She also doesn't do anything other than get taken hostage every now and then.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Perfect. She's also very good at staying with the babysitter while Roy has "adventures" during the night

 

[Doc Destruction]

So fault the writer, not the kids.

Easier to take the cop out.

 

[Anubis]

There's lots of things that could be done with kids that writers just seem to completely ignore. They're too busy trying to age them up so they can put on a costume and fight. How about let the kid stay a baby for awhile? There are all sorts of things that could be done with a Superhero having to take care of a kid. Like, say for instance Lois and Supes finally have a kid. The kid has the croup, so Supes takes him/her out for a walk in the clouds on a warm night. That, that's just an awesome scene just thinking about it. Or, like I suggested a few dozen pages ago, Flash running around the whole day fighting super villains and saving the day, not realizing he's got poop on his costume from changing diapers. Play it up for laughs, but most important, don't make it what the whole book is all about. You'd think most people would get this simple concept, but I have rarely seen anybody handle it right.

 

[Lobo]

The problem I tend to see with people who write kids into comics is that most people seem to equate child to annoying. Which is hardly the case. Kids are not always annoying. Yes they have their moments and yes there are some kids who are annoying 24/7 but it is not true for all. It is possible to write kids into comics and not make them insanely annoying.

That, and children have to age, wehreas the adult superheroes always stay around 30, so 90% of Superkids end up rapidly aging, which is annoying to me.

 

[Ion Kenshin]

That, and children have to age, wehreas the adult superheroes always stay around 30, so 90% of Superkids end up rapidly aging, which is annoying to me.

I agree. Or you get the case of Franklin Richards where for the longest time you couldn't even decipher how old he was. Hell I still don't know

 

[TheCorpulent1]

There's lots of things that could be done with kids that writers just seem to completely ignore. They're too busy trying to age them up so they can put on a costume and fight. How about let the kid stay a baby for awhile? There are all sorts of things that could be done with a Superhero having to take care of a kid. Like, say for instance Lois and Supes finally have a kid. The kid has the croup, so Supes takes him/her out for a walk in the clouds on a warm night. That, that's just an awesome scene just thinking about it. Or, like I suggested a few dozen pages ago, Flash running around the whole day fighting super villains and saving the day, not realizing he's got poop on his costume from changing diapers. Play it up for laughs, but most important, don't make it what the whole book is all about. You'd think most people would get this simple concept, but I have rarely seen anybody handle it right.

I think the prevailing perception is that babies = boring.

 

[Anubis]

Pfft, anybody that's ever spent any amount of time with babies knows that babies are anything but boring. They're stressful like money sucking poop machines. We're talking lack of sleep on top of people that already suffer from a lack of sleep. Imagine if Flash forgets to vibrate out of the way of a bullet cuz he's had like maybe an hour of sleep over the last week?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, babies aren't boring, they just suck.

 

[Anubis]

Well, the good thing about babies on tv and in comics is, you can just ignore them and focus attention on something else. Like the kids on Everybody loves Raymond. To this day I still don't know their names. Cuz the show wasn't about them. Which is how you should handle superhero offspring in comics. Only put focus on them when you actually have something to say. Hopefully not villain who knows my secret ID kidnaps kid plot #31.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I watched that show on and off for years without even realizing his "kid" was twins. And then I watched for another long stretch before I realized they had a sister.

It was glorious.

 

[Ion Kenshin]

Well, the good thing about babies on tv and in comics is, you can just ignore them and focus attention on something else. Like the kids on Everybody loves Raymond. To this day I still don't know their names. Cuz the show wasn't about them. Which is how you should handle superhero offspring in comics. Only put focus on them when you actually have something to say. Hopefully not villain who knows my secret ID kidnaps kid plot #31.

Their names were Michael and Geoffrey. But even on the show they refered to them as the twins always.




<---watched too much TV

 

[Anubis]

I think he had a daughter too. I recall an episode with a dance she was going to or something.