The Official Flash thread

[Kevin Smith]

Regardless, the "Maaaaaan... F*** Barry Allen!" meme will live on.

LOL.

Boy, I really walked in on a thread of a few bitter, angry Wally fans who don't like change.

 

[BrianWilly]

Saying that "Wally is the Flash!" over and over again does not make it any more real. The fact (Flash Fact ) remains that Barry Allen is THE FLASH
, the definitive Flash, has been so, and has been Flash longer than anyone else (his run is still longest, and that was when comics sucked!). Barry is The Flash, Wally is the substitute runner up, he's a close second at best.

...This is meant to be sarcastic, right? I mean, with the irony and everything? Please be sarcastic with this 'cause it'd be really sad if we're supposed to take this at face value.

 

[Kevin Smith]

...This is meant to be sarcastic, right? I mean, with the irony and everything? Please be sarcastic with this 'cause it'd be really sad if we're supposed to take this at face value.

Maybe a little. I don't joke about that. Barry is The Flash.

 

[BrianWilly]

Oookay then.

*ignore list, activate!*

 

[WompuM]

ha. BeeDubya, you so crazy.

 

[BrianWilly]

I mean for suriously y'all. I hope people will put me on ignore if I ever go "Kyle is the one true Green Lantern blahdy blahdy substitute bladhy etc add bold text as desired."

 

[WompuM]

I always forget about the block option. I would have blocked Hush years ago.

 

[BrianWilly]

There's not a cockblock option, just so you know.

 

[WompuM]

Like that would get any use on this site anyway.

 

[MadVillainy]

Ok, there is nothing wrong with thinking Barry is the better Flash. I know ppl who think that and its whatever.
But if your gonna be annoying and smug in your arguments that makes me not respect your opinion. I mean you flat out said to me

You haven't even read it. You just don't like Barry Allen. You started this thread to help boost your anti-Barry argument.

...Huh?? How can you say if I read something or not, when I did?

All you do is pop up and write these long posts that can be summed into the sentence. "Barry Allen is the Flash" and honestly you dont make good points you just rant.
You're actually one of the worst members on the site just because your so snobbish towards people who disagree with your opinion.

If a mod wants me to change it I will, but it needs to be said. You're the reason why I stopped going into the Flash movie thread because you're so arrogant about your opinion. Everytime someone mentions Wally you go up in arms and just put in a bunch of smileys and say Barry Allen is Flash in too many words

 

[Anubis]

Sounds like Silent Bob should be the one banned for trolling.

F**k Barry Allen...........Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Tron Bonne]

I think it's totally dickish to skip out on certain stories, GOOD stories, just because they're not about your favorite version of a character. The people proudly spouting "I don't read Hal's book ever because it's not about Kyle, I only read Kyle's" and are now saying that they won't read Barry's book because he isn't Wally are quite small minded in my opnion. If Barry and Hal fans wanted to read Flash or GL they had Wally and Kyle. That was it.

I grew up with Wally West. I know everything about Wally. I could write a book on him. I also know everything about barry, and could also write a book on him. I'm a Flash MMA fighter, I'm the Farry Allen scholar you said you weren't, I have read nearly everything about both Wally and Barry, and I still prefer Barry as Flash. All the people bashing Barry because they grew up with Wally and know nothing about Barry are giving uninformed opinions. Biased to the nth degree.

I had a fairly long response to this planned out, but I think this refers to itself.

You know what I find "dickish". You trying to turn this into some petty Barry Allen vs Wally West argument. Yeah, that's pretty "dickish". I gave you more then enough reason as to why I'm opposed to his return, and I totally avoided proclaiming any really like, dislike,discredit or disservice for one character over another. Obviously, you either didn't get it at all, or you just are the petty fan you accuse me of who is rocking out with his cock out because his favorite character is back.

No, I'm not a Barry Allen scholar, but I know of his death, how it happened and what it meant. I don't care what contunity shifts have happened to change it, but it's still relevant and important to me. That's my opinion and I have given solid reasoning behind why I believe that. Obviously you disagree, and to your credit, you gave some of your own solid reasoning. I don't agree and it doesn't even come close to changing my mind, but that's how it goes. However, this last bit is ********. I never tried to make this Wally vs Barry, you did that all your little own.

If you can't see that in my arguments, well, I suppose there simply is nothing left to say about the subject between us

 

[cerealkiller182]

I HATE, absolutely HATE, the excuse "If theres still good stories to tell with Barry, why not bring him back." Thats just dumb.

1) That would mean Barry would have had to die a dried up, boring loser and his death would mean very little, kinda like Ted Kord's which seemed more like a speedbump (unfortunately), in order to make it stick.

2) Resurrections have to be put to bed entirely. Its a stupid overused concept, especially nowdays. The biggest cop-out in comics.

3) It would have to work for everything, which means if theres a good story to be told with electro-blue Superman than we should bring him back, but I doubt electro-blue Superman would come back regardless of what a writer had up their sleeve for it. Nor would I want it to come back.

 

[Flash Facts]

Flash Rebirth isn't a "GOOD" story anyways

 

[Oddzball]

That doesn't make sense. How could she be a gandmother without having childern. Yes the kids were born in a different time period but from both Barry and Iris's point of reference they have already had children.

Iris should be at least 34 years older from the last time she saw Barry.

Time Travel is wonderful for contradictions, isn't it.

The Tornado Twins And their respecitve kids Bart and XS won't be born for another Millenium.

Iris was in the next 1000 years long enough to become a grandmother. THEN she returned at her older age to today. And...

SHE WAS.

If she is not in the current continuity, start with the obvious suspect; Superboy prime's reality punches.

If he's cleared, go to the next source, Crazy Scarlte Witch over at marvel who was upsetting reality over there.

or blayme john Bryne. He's had nothing to do with the Flash, mind you but blaming John Byrne is a national pastime.

 

[Flash Facts]

Time Travel is wonderful for contradictions, isn't it.

The Tornado Twins And their respecitve kids Bart and XS won't be born for another Millenium.

Iris was in the next 1000 years long enough to become a grandmother. THEN she returned at her older age to today. And...

SHE WAS.

But Bart is in the same time period so she still is a grandmother and that still doesn't negate the argument I made earlier that from their perspective they have already had children. Not to mention the fact that for a speedster and a time traveler having children in a different time period is kind like have children that moved to a different state.

If she is not in the current continuity, start with the obvious suspect; Superboy prime's reality punches.

If he's cleared, go to the next source, Crazy Scarlte Witch over at marvel who was upsetting reality over there.

or blayme john Bryne. He's had nothing to do with the Flash, mind you but blaming John Byrne is a national pastime.

This was great. The SW part actually made me laugh

 

[MadVillainy]

I never understood how Bart came to be

why didnt they just say that before Barry died, him and Iris did the dirty deed and then Bart was born instead of him being Barry and Iris's grandson from the future

But if Im correct it involves time traveling or something. Its just really weird to me

 

[Mr. Green]

I'm figuring that the whole Flash part of the DCU will really benefit from Flash Rebirth in much the same way that GL has. I mean, I'm more of a Kyle fan than any other GL but some of the best GL stories of all time followed GL Rebirth.

So my question to the people saying **** Barry is: are you guys not at least a little excited that there will be some really cool Flash stories in the future?

 

[Scarecrow_King]

I don't think anybody is arguing that there can't be good stories. I'm excited to see what DC has in store for the (now bigger) Flash family.

but to be honest, I think the GL Corps books is better than Hal's Green Lantern book. I found a lot of the Hal stories to be rather "meh". It was just a lot of him trying to struggle to find his new place in the DCU and come to terms with his past. which was fine, I guess. but it rehashed a lot of story that I read forever ago when he went all Parallax on us. instead of incorporating new elements. It's gotten better, though, with the Blackest Night stuff.

So I would say that personally, I'm more excited to see what happens with the rest of the Flash Family than I am about Barry. because I feel like it would just be Hal's story again.

 

[BrianWilly]

I can't speak for anyone else, but the way I see it? Let's see the Flash story actually be cool now before we have any hope for the future.

And, really, what happened to Kyle in the 2006-8 interim is pretty much the only reason that Wally fans are apprehensive at all.

 

[Tron Bonne]

I'm figuring that the whole Flash part of the DCU will really benefit from Flash Rebirth in much the same way that GL has. I mean, I'm more of a Kyle fan than any other GL but some of the best GL stories of all time followed GL Rebirth.

So my question to the people saying **** Barry is: are you guys not at least a little excited that there will be some really cool Flash stories in the future?

It's really not about wanting good stories and liking so-and-so better than so-and-so for me. It's much more of a personal principle thing that I've went over to an exhausting degree.

If they do the whole Speedsters book like people are speculating (with Wally, Bart, Jesse, Jay, and whoever else), sure I'll pick that up and enjoy it if it's enjoyable, but I don't care if Johns ****s out the Great American Comic Book, I'm ignoring Barry Allen as much as I can

 

[MadVillainy]

As I said earlier if Rebirth is good then I'll read it

That applies to the Barry Allen Flash title. So far I'm not impressed with Rebirth so I'm skeptical with a Barry Allen Flash series.

 

[Mr. Green]

I don't think anybody is arguing that there can't be good stories. I'm excited to see what DC has in store for the (now bigger) Flash family.

but to be honest, I think the GL Corps books is better than Hal's Green Lantern book. I found a lot of the Hal stories to be rather "meh". It was just a lot of him trying to struggle to find his new place in the DCU and come to terms with his past. which was fine, I guess. but it rehashed a lot of story that I read forever ago when he went all Parallax on us. instead of incorporating new elements. It's gotten better, though, with the Blackest Night stuff.

So I would say that personally, I'm more excited to see what happens with the rest of the Flash Family than I am about Barry. because I feel like it would just be Hal's story again.

I hear that. They seem to be very similar characters.

I can't speak for anyone else, but the way I see it? Let's see the Flash story actually be cool now before we have any hope for the future.

And, really, what happened to Kyle in the 2006-8 interim is pretty much the only reason that Wally fans are apprehensive at all.

Hey, maybe with all the Flash interest that will be generated by Rebirth DC will get a sick creative team going on Wally's book.

It's really not about wanting good stories and liking so-and-so better than so-and-so for me. It's much more of a personal principle thing that I've went over to an exhausting degree.

If they do the whole Speedsters book like people are speculating (with Wally, Bart, Jesse, Jay, and whoever else), sure I'll pick that up and enjoy it if it's enjoyable, but I don't care if Johns ****s out the Great American Comic Book, I'm ignoring Barry Allen as much as I can

So you're ignoring Barry just because you don't like his resurrection? Then why do you even care one way or the other about Rebirth?

 

[Tron Bonne]

So you're ignoring Barry just because you don't like his resurrection? Then why do you even care one way or the other about Rebirth?

Who said I cared about Rebirth? I assumed you were talking about the long run and not just Rebirth, and the Flash franchise as a whole, not just this one focal point.

 

[Flash Facts]

i can't speak for anyone else, but the way i see it? Let's see the flash story actually be cool now before we have any hope for the future.

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